Lack of sleep disrupts every physiologic function of the body

[EL Mariachi]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/08/AR2005100801405.html

[spinnis]

how is your cycle going?

[EL Mariachi]

how is your cycle going?

my cycle?

[spinnis]

I thought you were that dude that talked about starting a cycle a  while back,

my bad

[EL Mariachi]

I thought you were that dude that talked about starting a cycle a  while back,

my bad

i did have some questions about steroids, out of curiosity, i always wonder why people take it because you lose almost all your size when quit. Im 26 and at my strongest, im growing very fast if eating right, i often dont eat/workout for 2 weeks and lose a lot, but i only need 7 days to regain it back.

[JimmyJam1974]

You overtraining on your cycle? Is that why you're having a hard time sleeping?

[The Coach]

my cycle?

He's referring to your menstrual cycle, how is it going?

[EL Mariachi]

He's referring to you menstrual cycle, how is it going?

 

[The ChemistV2]

i did have some questions about steroids, out of curiosity, i always wonder why people take it because you lose almost all your size when quit. Im 26 and at my strongest, im growing very fast if eating right, i often dont eat/workout for 2 weeks and lose a lot, but i only need 7 days to regain it back.

The reason people lose all their size is they all follow the same approach..big doses of test and deca for weeks on end. When they come off, they're own production of hormones are highly supressed, so they lose most their size. They do these cycles cause all the bro's on the forums tell them to. Many years ago, I did a cycle consisting of 1 50 mg sublingual primobolin tablet a day for 3 months. I trained extremely hard and ate a lot of protein. Of course this drug does not cause much suppression and my dose was low. I went from 175 to a hard 190, with no water retention, no acne,so sides whatsoever. I looked good enough to go in a show and got 2nd in the lightheavy (Mr. West palm.)When I came off, I had built real muscle and I never lost it. But I never bothered to juice again. When I tell people this or post my pic from the show, they say I am bullshitting, but it's true.

[JOHN MATRIX]

The reason people lose all their size is they all follow the same approach..big doses of test and deca for weeks on end. When they come off, they're own production of hormones are highly supressed, so they lose most their size. They do these cycles cause all the bro's on the forums tell them to. Many years ago, I did a cycle consisting of 1 50 mg sublingual primobolin tablet a day for 3 months. I trained extremely hard and ate a lot of protein. Of course this drug does not cause much suppression and my dose was low. I went from 175 to a hard 190, with no water retention, no acne,so sides whatsoever. I looked good enough to go in a show and got 2nd in the lightheavy (Mr. West palm.)When I came off, I had built real muscle and I never lost it. But I never bothered to juice again. When I tell people this or post my pic from the show, they say I am bullshitting, but it's true.

did you do any PCT? when you went off did your natural test levels just return to normal?

[The ChemistV2]

did you do any PCT? when you went off did your natural test levels just return to normal?

This was back in the 80's before there were detailed PCT protocols. But remember, 3 months on  one primobolin tablet a day doesn't really shut you down. I never had any negative sexual side effects either. So to answer your question, I don't think my test levels were ever really lowered to any great degree. If I had taken a higher dose or stayed on longer it would ave lowered me.The difference is I didn't use the drug to blow up on a lot of water retention. Even a small dose of anabolics will enable you to retain more nitrogen and recuperate at an accelerated rate from your workouts.  So, if you've been training a while, built a good base, and you take a small dose, you can make good gains. No, you won't look like a modern pro, but you can gain a good 10 pounds and keep a lot with a well plannned, low dose cycle. Do two a year and you could put on some good size over a few years. The point is, there's alternatives to the heavily suggested Test, deca cycles everyone does. I know a lot of guys in their 30's that can no longer produce normal levels of test from these types of cycles. I'm 45 and have great natural levels of test. 

[Eric2]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/08/AR2005100801405.html

So does does sex

[JOHN MATRIX]

This was back in the 80's before there were detailed PCT protocols. But remember, 3 months on  one primobolin tablet a day doesn't really shut you down. I never had any negative sexual side effects either. So to answer your question, I don't think my test levels were ever really lowered to any great degree. If I had taken a higher dose or stayed on longer it would ave lowered me.The difference is I didn't use the drug to blow up on a lot of water retention. Even a small dose of anabolics will enable you to retain more nitrogen and recuperate at an accelerated rate from your workouts.  So, if you've been training a while, built a good base, and you take a small dose, you can make good gains. No, you won't look like a modern pro, but you can gain a good 10 pounds and keep a lot with a well plannned, low dose cycle. Do two a year and you could put on some good size over a few years. The point is, there's alternatives to the heavily suggested Test, deca cycles everyone does. I know a lot of guys in their 30's that can no longer produce normal levels of test from these types of cycles. I'm 45 and have great natural levels of test. 

wow, very interesting. ill have to look into this more for the future