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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #125 on: November 24, 2008, 09:20:39 PM »

Pathetic excuse for a dog...
yip yip total girl dog.
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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #126 on: November 24, 2008, 09:50:17 PM »
That's definitely a new phrase on here, Haz!!!! 

It wasn't that difficult a decision to make actually.  I was on the brink of turning Pro ... but wasn't happy about the "risk" factors involved to get there.  I was single and not dating ... so I ended up making the best decision for me financially at that time .... even if some may judge me morally.  The opportunity was there and I took it.

can't blame you! musta bin a blast!  i heard the guys don't get paid much, and thought "holy shit, they get paid??" haha.  seriously tho, i don't think Putman was much better than i was, and i couldn't place top 5 ???

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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #127 on: November 24, 2008, 09:55:55 PM »
Ahhhhh yes .... this is why everyone respects you .... you are a very honest!

See you on the 12th!!!!   Do you drink Canadian beer?



i drank about 20 Canadian beer Saturday nite. enough for me and Avesher. hey Av, when were you and Fisher training at my gym??

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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #128 on: November 24, 2008, 10:46:10 PM »
I was taking Jim's statement as sarcasm dude. 

And just what are you an expert in Grant?

Expect Pussy Inspector...Paid by the hour, or the moan.

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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #129 on: November 24, 2008, 10:47:18 PM »
i heard the guys don't get paid much, and thought "holy shit, they get paid??" haha. 

Actually, back in the 80's the guys didn't make much.... but these days the guys make plenty.  As I said... I left Bodybuilding based purely on financial decisions.

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seriously tho, i don't think Putman was much better than i was, and i couldn't place top 5 ??? 

Putnam has some strong body-parts... and he looked great last year. But he just isn't Pro material and we all know that. His pro card win is just an indication that the sport is more political than ever.  Amazing to think that guys like Shawn Ray, Vince Taylor, Dexter Jackson and Victor Martinez once won the Light-heavy IFBB Pro cards.......


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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #130 on: November 25, 2008, 06:39:26 AM »
That's definitely a new phrase on here, Haz!!!! 

It wasn't that difficult a decision to make actually.  I was on the brink of turning Pro ... but wasn't happy about the "risk" factors involved to get there.  I was single and not dating ... so I ended up making the best decision for me financially at that time .... even if some may judge me morally.  The opportunity was there and I took it.
well all anyone has to do is meet you and get the chance to hang out with you grant and they will realize quickly your an excellent person and genuine dude.

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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #131 on: November 25, 2008, 07:32:14 AM »
Actually, back in the 80's the guys didn't make much.... but these days the guys make plenty.  As I said... I left Bodybuilding based purely on financial decisions.

Putnam has some strong body-parts... and he looked great last year. But he just isn't Pro material and we all know that. His pro card win is just an indication that the sport is more political than ever.  Amazing to think that guys like Shawn Ray, Vince Taylor, Dexter Jackson and Victor Martinez once won the Light-heavy IFBB Pro cards.......


hey grant,vic was heavyweight a very light one tho,don't forget trifeca at usa's 3 yrs in row,richard jones,dugdale,heath.

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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #132 on: November 25, 2008, 07:53:32 AM »
I didn't give myself the "expert" status dude. Speak to Ron Avidan about that.  Guess he gave it to me when I used to be a moderator here?

Firstly, you are making this way too personal.  I don't even know Putnum and everyone says he's a nice guy.  My opinion is simply an objective one.  Secondly, I am willing to bet that I used way less back in 1995 in little old Zimbabwe to get ready for my show than Putnum is using today?  When did Putnum ever claim to be natural????

Here is me (at 24) and 198lbs.  I can scan a few more of me doing a lat spread if you want ...but that will just make my point even more relevant?

Since you mentioned it, what did you use then?

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« Reply #133 on: November 25, 2008, 08:13:08 AM »
Since you mentioned it, what did you use then?

Low doses of Organon Deca and Upjohn Test cypionate.  It was all I could find (and all I could afford). A shot every Monday and every Thursday for just 8 weeks.  Had no protein powders and no creatine in Zimbabwe.  Just real food, free weights and plenty of sleep.

No orals.  We certainly didn't have any thyroid meds, GH, or even Clen. And certainly no craziness like IGF-1, or insulin, or plasma expanders like I read about today.

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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #134 on: November 25, 2008, 08:23:52 AM »
Low doses of Organon Deca and Upjohn Test cypionate.  It was all I could find (and all I could afford). A shot every Monday and every Thursday for just 8 weeks.  Had no protein powders and no creatine in Zimbabwe.  Just real food, free weights and plenty of sleep.

No orals.  We certainly didn't have any thyroid meds, GH, or even Clen. And certainly no craziness like IGF-1, or insulin, or plasma expanders like I read about today.

Do most of the porn guys use test and viagra for performance enhancement?

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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #135 on: November 25, 2008, 08:34:31 AM »
Do most of the porn guys use test and viagra for performance enhancement?

Not really Test.  It can decrease the pop shot.  But Viagra, Cialis and Levitra are heavily abused.... sometimes all at once.

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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #136 on: November 25, 2008, 08:38:38 AM »
grant post more pics of you in that comp.

also what do you call low dosages?
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« Reply #137 on: November 25, 2008, 08:58:45 AM »
grant post more pics of you in that comp.

Sure, but I'll have to scan the hardcopies.

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also what do you call low dosages?   

Started at 100mg of Deca and 100mg of Test Cyp ....once on Monday and once on Thursday.  So 200mg (total) of each a week for first 2 weeks.  But I increased to 400mg (total) of each by week 3 and then tapered down again by weeks 7 and 8.  Just 2 cycles a year with a long break in between.  It was very "old school" thinking back then.

Didn't even know about HCG after a cycle back then.  Doubt I coulda found it anyway.

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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #138 on: November 25, 2008, 09:26:45 AM »
Grant has always had a good physique,better then Putnams in my opinion.Grant why didnt you ever try to go anywhere with bodybuilding???? You would have done well.You had great symetry good size, and great genetics.We all know you looks are marketable.Grant how many magazine covers have you been on 10 or 20?????
I seen Grant and Teresa, together at numerious shows, and girls would flock over to Grant.
Plus he is a pus%&%$ wrecking machine, lol.I know Putnams has a nice looking wife, but you know grant has probably kicked more girls out of  bed then Putnam could ever get.Grants was with Teresa Hesller, who had a really nice body, and still does.How many of you guys wish you could be with Teresa Hessler????? She had awesome legs and glutes,wow.

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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #139 on: November 25, 2008, 10:52:31 AM »
I've met Grant on a couple of occasions and Putnam many times and have also met at least 90% of the pros going back one hell of a long time and I have to proudly say that I would place both Grant and Putnam at the top 5% of my "Good Guys in Competitive Bodybuilding " list. I consider it an honor to have met both of them ...... but I tend to agree with the general consensus here that Peter will be less than a great Pro competitor.

In fact I don't think he has even improved over the past couple of years. But I say that lightly because I was not there to see him personally compete this year and only base my assumption on the photographs which I am usually reluctant to do.

And I have to stress that judging in person while a competitor is less than 20 feet away is a completely different "show" than merely judging a man by his photographs. Hell!, that lineup even looks completely different the further you go back in the auditorium.

For instance - sit in the back and that big, overweight, bulky guy should have won the entire contest but the judges place him fair and squarely - LAST! And those guys and gals in the very last row make their objections loud and clear.

If the NPC/IFBB gave trophies for "Good Guys", both Grant and Peter would have to buy a bigger house to store them.

Nevertheless, I am glad that Peter won because he really is a good guy. But I wonder if "Good Guys" can carry that over into the pro ranks.

I might add that Grant has the advantage of phenominal family genes. He once posted some photos on here when he was just a young kid in posing trunks and you could already tell he was going places .... but apparently no one ever guessed where those "places" were and whom he's be there with!

Post those photos, Grant, and let one and all see what a genetically gifted kid looks like.

Hope  you're doing well and get that movie in the can. I asked about that but never did get a response.

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Re: PUTNAM TURNS PRO!!!!!!
« Reply #140 on: November 25, 2008, 11:11:17 AM »
Grant makes a good point and not sure if he even realizes it. Years ago guy took less drugs so guys like Grant for example who had good genetics IE good muscle structure and shape and yes to some degree response to anabolics looked awesome on few anabolics. Today you see a lot of guys who are on stage with bad genetics, but take a lot of drugs who should not be bbers. If they took the same stuff these guys took back in the 80's and 90's they would not be able to compete. These guys are basically forcing their bad genetics with larger doses and different kinds of drugs that the guys from years ago did not even use. So today almost anyone can step on stage as long as they take enough drugs. Also, some of these guys who you see each year that do not seem to be growing are great examples of guys how are maxed out on muscle due to their bad genetics, not because they are natural or just not taking enough.

So is it time for you to tell Shari it's time to hang up the posing trunks before he damages himself? ;D

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« Reply #141 on: November 25, 2008, 11:12:26 AM »
That's definitely a new phrase on here, Haz!!!! 

It wasn't that difficult a decision to make actually.  I was on the brink of turning Pro ... but wasn't happy about the "risk" factors involved to get there.  I was single and not dating ... so I ended up making the best decision for me financially at that time .... even if some may judge me morally.  The opportunity was there and I took it.

Any STD's since you turned pro?

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Re: Nationals: Peter Putman turns pro!
« Reply #142 on: November 25, 2008, 11:29:50 AM »

Since I was there, here is the unbiased version from people who actually saw the contest.

Peter vs. Auguste. Both looked weaker than we have seen them in the past, and thus, we cant think of the best. The judges need to judge the competitors on what they look like at that moment, on Friday evening, nothing else.

So, for me, it was between those two. I felt Auguste had better legs, but Peter had the better overall physique. Granted, the whole classes, albiet a big class, was a weak class, and Peter, did deserve the class win at the end.

From unbaised people, besides me, they all concurred. Now, that isnt everyone. Others had Auguste winning the class.

So granted, Peter looked weak, and less in top shape that he was in other contests, but on this day, he was the best overall in his class.

Simple as that. 

Will Peter get better if he competes in the pro ranks. Yes he will.  His color was a little off here at prejudging, and obviously, things didnt go as planned, but you can bet he wont make these mistakes again.

His wife, Jessica, is already an IFBB Figure pro, and has always been very nice, and obviously, a head turned to many. She has a contract with Optimum Nutrition (she was at their booth), and also one of the few girls with a contract with AMI Weider.

So stop hating on Peter. On this day, he was the bests physique in his class.



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Re: Nationals: Peter Putman turns pro!
« Reply #143 on: November 25, 2008, 11:37:17 AM »
green tan + awful back + AMI contract = pro card

Since I was there, here is the unbiased version from people who actually saw the contest.

Peter vs. Auguste. Both looked weaker than we have seen them in the past, and thus, we cant think of the best. The judges need to judge the competitors on what they look like at that moment, on Friday evening, nothing else.

So, for me, it was between those two. I felt Auguste had better legs, but Peter had the better overall physique. Granted, the whole classes, albiet a big class, was a weak class, and Peter, did deserve the class win at the end.

From unbaised people, besides me, they all concurred. Now, that isnt everyone. Others had Auguste winning the class.

So granted, Peter looked weak, and less in top shape that he was in other contests, but on this day, he was the best overall in his class.

Simple as that. 

Will Peter get better if he competes in the pro ranks. Yes he will.  His color was a little off here at prejudging, and obviously, things didnt go as planned, but you can bet he wont make these mistakes again.

His wife, Jessica, is already an IFBB Figure pro, and has always been very nice, and obviously, a head turned to many. She has a contract with Optimum Nutrition (she was at their booth), and also one of the few girls with a contract with AMI Weider.

So stop hating on Peter. On this day, he was the bests physique in his class.




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Re: Nationals: Peter Putman turns pro!
« Reply #144 on: November 25, 2008, 11:42:50 AM »
Since I was there, here is the unbiased version from people who actually saw the contest.

Peter vs. Auguste. Both looked weaker than we have seen them in the past, and thus, we cant think of the best. The judges need to judge the competitors on what they look like at that moment, on Friday evening, nothing else.

So, for me, it was between those two. I felt Auguste had better legs, but Peter had the better overall physique. Granted, the whole classes, albiet a big class, was a weak class, and Peter, did deserve the class win at the end.

From unbaised people, besides me, they all concurred. Now, that isnt everyone. Others had Auguste winning the class.

So granted, Peter looked weak, and less in top shape that he was in other contests, but on this day, he was the best overall in his class.

Simple as that. 

Will Peter get better if he competes in the pro ranks. Yes he will.  His color was a little off here at prejudging, and obviously, things didnt go as planned, but you can bet he wont make these mistakes again.

His wife, Jessica, is already an IFBB Figure pro, and has always been very nice, and obviously, a head turned to many. She has a contract with Optimum Nutrition (she was at their booth), and also one of the few girls with a contract with AMI Weider.

So stop hating on Peter. On this day, he was the bests physique in his class.




I also had a friend who was there Ron and he actually is decent friends with Peter and he said no way was he first. This is how I found out so quick BTW as he text me right after the traves...  ah I mean announcement.

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Re: Nationals: Peter Putman turns pro!
« Reply #145 on: November 25, 2008, 11:45:39 AM »
Well put, Ron! Give yourself an extra star!

The thing I don't understand is the "green tan". Anyone who has been competing within the last 12 years knows the name of the product that makes your skin turn green (and sometimes even blotchy black). How could Peter use that product after all these years of competititon?

For some unknown reason it does not always work that way though.

Sorry, but I forget the name of that tanning product but it would be decent for Peter to tell us what he used.

DIsgusted, who did your friend feel should have beaten Peter? I bet it was Auguste because even Ron somewhat admits that it was a close decision. (I hate to say what I think it was that others said so correct me if I am wrong, Ron!)

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Re: Nationals: Peter Putman turns pro!
« Reply #146 on: November 25, 2008, 11:46:03 AM »
lilliput nam.

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Re: Nationals: Peter Putman turns pro!
« Reply #147 on: November 25, 2008, 12:58:58 PM »
                     why all the hate for Peter?

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Re: Nationals: Peter Putman turns pro!
« Reply #148 on: November 25, 2008, 01:06:24 PM »
someone start a thread as a tribute to his sexy wife!

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Re: Nationals: Peter Putman turns pro!
« Reply #149 on: November 25, 2008, 01:09:21 PM »
i bet the Putnams idolize the Cutlers?  what do you think?