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Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« on: November 24, 2008, 09:10:00 PM »
Imagine the teasing Obama would receive if he pardoned people for weed/coke sales and food stamp fraud...




WASHINGTON (AP) - President George W. Bush has granted pardons to 14 individuals and commuted the prison sentences of two others convicted of misdeeds ranging from drug offenses to tax evasion, from wildlife violations to bank embezzlement, The Associated Press learned Monday.

The new round of White House pardons are Bush's first since March and come less than two months before he will end his presidency. The crimes committed by those on the list also include offenses involving hazardous waste, food stamps, and the theft of government property.

Bush has been stingy during his time in office about handing out such reprieves.

Including these actions, he has granted a total of 171 and eight commutations. That's less than half as many as Presidents Clinton or Reagan issued during their time in office. Both were two-term presidents.

On the latest pardon list were:

_Leslie Owen Collier of Charleston, Mo. She was convicted for unauthorized use of a pesticide and violating the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act.

_Milton Kirk Cordes of Rapid City, S.D. Cordes was convicted of conspiracy to violate the Lacey Act, which prohibits importation into the country of wildlife taken in violation of conservation laws.

_Richard Micheal Culpepper of Mahomet, Ill., who was convicted of making false statements to the federal government.

_Brenda Jean Dolenz-Helmer of Fort Worth, Texas, for reporting or helping cover up a crime.

_Andrew Foster Harley of Falls Church, Va. Harley was convicted of wrongful use and distribution of marijuana and cocaine.

_Obie Gene Helton of Rossville, Ga., whose offense was unauthorized acquisition of food stamps.

_Carey C. Hice Sr. of Travelers Rest, S.C., who was convicted of income tax evasion.

_Geneva Yvonne Hogg of Jacksonville, Fla., convicted of bank embezzlement.

_William Hoyle McCright Jr. of Midland, Texas, who was sentenced for making false entries, books, reports or statements to a bank.

_Paul Julian McCurdy of Sulphur, Okla., who was sentenced for misapplication of bank funds.

_Robert Earl Mohon Jr. of Grant, Ala., who was convicted of conspiracy to distribute marijuana.

_Ronald Alan Mohrhoff of Los Angeles, who was convicted for unlawful use of a telephone in a narcotics felony.

_Daniel Figh Pue III of Conroe, Texas, convicted of illegal treatment, storage and disposal of a hazardous waste without a permit.

_Orion Lynn Vick of White Hall, Ark., who was convicted of aiding and abetting the theft of government property.

Bush also commuted the prison sentences of John Edward Forte of North Brunswick, N.J., and James Russell Harris of Detroit, Mich. Both were convicted of cocaine offenses.

Under the Constitution, the president's power to issue pardons is absolute and cannot be overruled.

Some high-profile individuals, such as Michael Milken, are seeking a pardon on securities fraud charges. Two politicians convicted of public corruption - former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham, R-Calif., and four-term Democratic Louisiana Gov. Edwin W. Edwards - are asking Bush to shorten their prison terms.

One hot topic of discussion related to pardons is whether Bush might decide to issue pre-emptive pardons before he leaves office to government employees who authorized or engaged in harsh interrogations of suspected terrorists in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Some constitutional scholars and human rights groups want the incoming administration of President-elect Barack Obama to investigate possible war crimes.

If Bush were to pardon anyone involved, it would provide protection against criminal charges, particularly for people who were following orders or trying to protect the nation with their actions. But it would also be highly controversial.

At the same time, Obama advisers say there is little - if any - chance that his administration would bring criminal charges.



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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2008, 09:11:15 PM »
every president does it moron so will your savior

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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2008, 09:12:43 PM »
every president does it moron so will your savior

Every President pardons people for food stamp fraud?  For coke/weed sales?  For using the phone to traffick in narcotics?


This is news.


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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2008, 09:15:49 PM »
Every President pardons people for food stamp fraud?  For coke/weed sales?  For using the phone to traffick in narcotics?


This is news.


every president makes questionable pardons, i guess it is news for someone who keeps their head up obamas ass all day.

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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2008, 09:16:58 PM »
every president makes questionable pardons, i guess it is news for someone who keeps their head up obamas ass all day.

Is Bush wrong to pardon people for food stamp fraud and coke/weed sales, tony?

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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2008, 09:18:51 PM »
Is Bush wrong to pardon people for food stamp fraud and coke/weed sales, tony?
Of course Tony agrees. As long as you're white.
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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2008, 09:19:43 PM »
Is Bush wrong to pardon people for food stamp fraud and coke/weed sales, tony?
I would say ya but then again you nor I know the details...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardons_controversy
read up clintons pardons...again your savior will do the same thing I HOPE YOU START AN IDIOTIC THREAD ABOUT THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES.

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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2008, 09:21:00 PM »
every president makes questionable pardons, i guess it is news for someone who keeps their head up obamas ass all day.

LOL.  I was gonna say it's only news if you haven't been paying attention at the end of EVERY OTHER presidential administration since I was young enough to remember.  :-\

240...  you have a knack for cobbling together various facts and data and making some pretty strange inferences as to their correlation (re: various conspiracies, etc.).  Bush also hasn't granted pardons for a lot of people who asked for them.  So without having read all the lurid details, I'd say it's a pretty safe guess that there are mitigating factors involved in the convictions of those who are actually being considered for pardons.

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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2008, 09:21:03 PM »
I would say ya but then again you nor I know the details...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardons_controversy
read up clintons pardons...again your savior will do the same thing I HOPE YOU START AN IDIOTIC THREAD ABOUT THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES.

Wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it.

Right is right, even if you're the only one doing it.

Just because Clinton scumbagged his way out of office doesn't mean Bush has to do it.  I expect Republicans to have higher standards for drug dealers and food stamp thieves than dems like Clinton.  I guess not :(

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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2008, 09:22:26 PM »
Wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it.

Right is right, even if you're the only one doing it.

Just because Clinton scumbagged his way out of office doesn't mean Bush has to do it.  I expect Republicans to have higher standards for drug dealers and food stamp thieves than dems like Clinton.  I guess not :(
Oh I agree and like I said I HOPE YOU START AN IDIOTIC THREAD ABOUT OBAMAS PARDONS WHEN THE TIME COMES HOWEVER I DOUBT YOU WILL  ::)

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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2008, 09:24:18 PM »
Oh I agree and like I said I HOPE YOU START AN IDIOTIC THREAD ABOUT OBAMAS PARDONS WHEN THE TIME COMES HOWEVER I DOUBT YOU WILL  ::)

LOL... I'd be happy to.  :) 

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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2008, 05:16:41 AM »
LOL... I'd be happy to.  :) 

Meanwhile, this fool still wont pardon the border patrol agents Ramos and Compean. 

Bush has become Damien Thorn.  I'm convinced of it.   

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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2008, 05:33:12 AM »
Meanwhile, this fool still wont pardon the border patrol agents Ramos and Compean. 

Bush has become Damien Thorn.  I'm convinced of it.   

Now I realize many of Clinton's pardons were controversial, ...but that really blows!
If anyone deserved a pardon, it was those guys.
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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2008, 05:34:55 AM »
Maybe they were too fat for jail.

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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2008, 05:35:18 AM »
Now I realize many of Clinton's pardons were controversial, ...but that really blows!
If anyone deserved a pardon, it was those guys.
very true i forgot about that  :-\

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Re: Bush pardons 14 and commutes 2 prison sentences
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2008, 06:09:58 AM »
yeah those 2 border guards really deserved to be pardoned.  At the very least, commute their sentence/reduce to probation provided they stay out of trouble.

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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2008, 06:40:04 AM »
yeah those 2 border guards really deserved to be pardoned.  At the very least, commute their sentence/reduce to probation provided they stay out of trouble.

I hope GWB's disgusting treatmnent of the two border patrol agents haunts him the rest of his miserable life.  He chose to take sides with his buddy johnny sutton and the drug dealer over these two agenst who are serving more time than rapists and violent criminals.

They were overcharged with a law meant for violent gang members, not LEO's using their firearm in the line of duty.

GWB really will be the least respected ex president ever, and deservedly so.  He is a disgrace.