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250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« on: November 25, 2008, 02:08:22 PM »
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11/16/2008  By Cpl. James M. Mercure  , 2nd Battalion (2/7)
FARAH PROVINCE, Afghanistan  —

FARAH PROVINCE, Afghanistan  —In the city of Shewan, approximately 250 insurgents ambushed 30 Marines and paid a heavy price for it.

Shewan has historically been a safe haven for insurgents, who used to plan and stage attacks against Coalition Forces in the Bala Baluk district.

The city is home to several major insurgent leaders.  Reports indicate that more than 250 full time fighters reside in the city and in the surrounding villages.

Shewan had been a thorn in the side of Task Force 2d Battalion, 7th Marine Regiment, Special Purpose Marine Air Ground Task Force Afghanistan throughout the Marines’ deployment here in support of Operation Enduring Freedom, because it controls an important supply route into the Bala Baluk district. Opening the route was key to continuing combat operations in the area.

“The day started out with a 10-kilometer patrol with elements mounted and dismounted, so by the time we got to Shewan, we were pretty beat,” said a designated marksman who requested to remain unidentified. “Our vehicles came under a barrage of enemy RPGs (rocket propelled grenades) and machine gun fire. One of our ‘humvees’ was disabled from RPG fire, and the Marines inside dismounted and laid down suppression fire so they could evacuate a Marine who was knocked unconscious from the blast.”

The vicious attack that left the humvee destroyed and several of the Marines pinned down in the kill zone sparked an intense eight-hour battle as the platoon desperately fought to recover their comrades.  After recovering the Marines trapped in the kill zone, another platoon sergeant personally led numerous attacks on enemy fortified positions while the platoon fought house to house and trench to trench in order to clear through the enemy ambush site.

“The biggest thing to take from that day is what Marines can accomplish when they’re given the opportunity to fight,” the sniper said. “A small group of Marines met a numerically superior force and embarrassed them in their own backyard. The insurgents told the townspeople that they were stronger than the Americans, and that day we showed them they were wrong.”

During the battle, the designated marksman single handedly thwarted a company-sized enemy RPG and machinegun ambush by reportedly killing 20 enemy fighters with his devastatingly accurate precision fire.  He selflessly exposed himself time and again to intense enemy fire during a critical point in the eight-hour battle for Shewan in order to kill any enemy combatants who attempted to engage or maneuver on the Marines in the kill zone.  What made his actions even more impressive was the fact that he didn’t miss any shots, despite the enemies’ rounds impacting within a foot of his fighting position.

“I was in my own little world,” the young corporal said. “I wasn’t even aware of a lot of the rounds impacting near my position, because I was concentrating so hard on making sure my rounds were on target.”

After calling for close-air support, the small group of Marines pushed forward and broke the enemies’ spirit as many of them dropped their weapons and fled the battlefield. At the end of the battle, the Marines had reduced an enemy stronghold, killed more than 50 insurgents and wounded several more.

“I didn’t realize how many bad guys there were until we had broken through the enemies’ lines and forced them to retreat.  It was roughly 250 insurgents against 30 of us,” the corporal said.  “It was a good day for the Marine Corps.  We killed a lot of bad guys, and none of our guys were seriously injured.”
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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2008, 02:17:01 PM »
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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2008, 02:45:11 PM »
Hahahahaha. So much for being stronger than the Americans is right. 20 kills from one guy alone is impressive. Hope Allah has enough virgins to go around.

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2008, 02:54:21 PM »
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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2008, 03:04:15 PM »
You can't even count these people as soldiers.   

I wonder what how our guys would do in Korea against a force that can shoot back.   Platoon vs. Platoon  or company vs. company.  (not that i see any of that happening or want it to happen)

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2008, 03:06:02 PM »
Hahahahaha. So much for being stronger than the Americans is right. 20 kills from one guy alone is impressive. Hope Allah has enough virgins to go around.


The US Marines are the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder what rifle this sniper was using.  A BMG .50 cal??????

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2008, 03:06:53 PM »
You can't even count these people as soldiers.   

I wonder what how our guys would do in Korea against a force that can shoot back.   Platoon vs. Platoon  or company vs. company.  (not that i see any of that happening or want it to happen)

Our Marines would decimate the Koreans.  These people were shooting back by the way.

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2008, 03:07:33 PM »
You can't even count these people as soldiers.   

I wonder what how our guys would do in Korea against a force that can shoot back.   Platoon vs. Platoon  or company vs. company.  (not that i see any of that happening or want it to happen)

why korea?

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2008, 03:10:36 PM »
You can't even count these people as soldiers.   

I wonder what how our guys would do in Korea against a force that can shoot back.   Platoon vs. Platoon  or company vs. company.  (not that i see any of that happening or want it to happen)

Why can't you count them as soldiers? I'd reckon these insurgents have more combat experience than the people in most country's armies.

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2008, 03:13:16 PM »
Why can't you count them as soldiers? I'd reckon these insurgents have more combat experience than the people in most country's armies.

Combat experience yes,  Combat experience in a real trained army?  NO.

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2008, 03:15:08 PM »
why korea?

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the North Korean army is a well trained army especially when you compare it to anything in the M.E.

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2008, 03:25:47 PM »
the North Korean army is a well trained army especially when you compare it to anything in the M.E.

And many of them are starving and would probably defect if given the chance.

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2008, 03:29:51 PM »
And many of them are starving and would probably defect if given the chance.
Doubt it.  Because their families would face retaliation from the government and they know that.

And they aren't starving their army.

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2008, 05:49:28 PM »
I'm betting some soliders were taking some ephedra out there.

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2008, 06:07:46 PM »
Blasting 30 rag heads like that would create a better high than any ephbedra shot...

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2008, 07:42:04 AM »
Semper Fi bitches!!!

When you have an enemy on their own turf, with combat experience, superior numbers, and you still kick their ass like that...says something about the Marines training.

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2008, 08:32:31 AM »
the North Korean army is a well trained army especially when you compare it to anything in the M.E.

As has been proven by an major military conflict in the last 50 years.
Air power rules in conventional warfare.
American air power is so far beyond what anyone else has it would make little difference Who America was fighting.

Heck the first Gulf war was won in days because of air power.

Vietnam wasn't lost during the conventional fighting days.

B-2s and B-1s would decimate most conventional military before they could even fire back.

Conventional ground forces in a modern war are used much differently then they were in anytime in the past.

HH6 would be able to tell you the differences between the roles of special ops and general forces before Vietnam and after.
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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2008, 08:51:02 AM »
As has been proven by an major military conflict in the last 50 years.
Air power rules in conventional warfare.
American air power is so far beyond what anyone else has it would make little difference Who America was fighting.

Heck the first Gulf war was won in days because of air power.

Vietnam wasn't lost during the conventional fighting days.

B-2s and B-1s would decimate most conventional military before they could even fire back.

Conventional ground forces in a modern war are used much differently then they were in anytime in the past.

HH6 would be able to tell you the differences between the roles of special ops and general forces before Vietnam and after.

I agree with you over all.  But air power is not always present in every fire fight and there would be occasions such as the one in Afghanistan where a company, platoon or less of marines would encounter a company of N. Korean soldiers in some mountain pass.

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2008, 09:48:49 AM »
I agree with you over all.  But air power is not always present in every fire fight and there would be occasions such as the one in Afghanistan where a company, platoon or less of marines would encounter a company of N. Korean soldiers in some mountain pass.

In a mountain pass, location means more than size.
But I get your drift.
The odds of 200 NK soldiers breaking or having a disorganized strategy, would be less.
However in the new warfare a small group has to hold on until air support arrives.
This is much different that having to wait for another company or tanks.

This is only true though once air superiority has been established.

Urban combat is much different and in is one of the reasons that the death toll in Iraq was much higher during the implementation of the surge.
It was also one of the reasons that Rumsfield didn't want to go into cities and instead wanted to train Iraqis to do it.

In the end the plans like HH6 had to implement were not forseen by many because Iraq took a long time to have adequate soldiers. So the US had to do the heavy lifting in the Urban settings themselves until about April this year.

The problems of building an army are much more acute in Afghanistan is one of the reasons that more NATO soldiers won't turn it around. Afghanistan needs to do more to build its military, which it doesn't seem to have the desire to do.
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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2008, 12:28:24 PM »
Ozmo why the hell are u encouraging the North Koreans....U know I'm headed there before Christmas. This is bad karma dude....use somebody else as an example.  :P

The NKPA are the only folks who get fed in the NK. I figure once they see the bright lights of Seoul their going to forget about why they were headed South, and hit a McDonalds. I should have a good picture of where these guys stand after I get back and I'll share what I can. It would be hard for the North to sustain an invasion. The belief is that they will try and take Seoul and then appeal to the UN for a cease-fire and work out terms. They can't afford for the US to mobilize fully against them. If we bring in tons of air, they won't have much left.
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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2008, 12:35:20 PM »
Ya, then what happens when China tells us to get the fuck out?

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2008, 12:59:06 PM »
Ozmo why the hell are u encouraging the North Koreans....U know I'm headed there before Christmas. This is bad karma dude....use somebody else as an example.  :P

The NKPA are the only folks who get fed in the NK. I figure once they see the bright lights of Seoul their going to forget about why they were headed South, and hit a McDonalds. I should have a good picture of where these guys stand after I get back and I'll share what I can. It would be hard for the North to sustain an invasion. The belief is that they will try and take Seoul and then appeal to the UN for a cease-fire and work out terms. They can't afford for the US to mobilize fully against them. If we bring in tons of air, they won't have much left.

lol,  my pops spent many isolated tours there when he was in the military and went there a lot for the government.

The problem is that Seoul is what, a stones throw form the DMZ?   Not to mention all the commando attacks on the airbases to kill the US pilots.  I don't think it would succeed in the long run.  But initially it could potentially be chaos.

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2008, 01:02:15 PM »
Ozmo why the hell are u encouraging the North Koreans....U know I'm headed there before Christmas. This is bad karma dude....use somebody else as an example.  :P

The NKPA are the only folks who get fed in the NK. I figure once they see the bright lights of Seoul their going to forget about why they were headed South, and hit a McDonalds. I should have a good picture of where these guys stand after I get back and I'll share what I can. It would be hard for the North to sustain an invasion. The belief is that they will try and take Seoul and then appeal to the UN for a cease-fire and work out terms. They can't afford for the US to mobilize fully against them. If we bring in tons of air, they won't have much left.

NKPA would get crushed if they entered the DMZ.
It would at least give the Marines and Navy something to do.
The Pacific fleet air craft are only hours away. Plus who knows how many tomahawks from Subs in and around the peninsula.
If they try to go Nuke instead of conventional they would even be more screwed.
Patriot 2's and the missile warning systems are mostly designed for these types of short range attack.
NK wouldn't be able to make it to Seoul as long as America is there.

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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2008, 01:07:45 PM »
NKPA would get crushed if they entered the DMZ.
It would at least give the Marines and Navy something to do.
The Pacific fleet air craft are only hours away. Plus who knows how many tomahawks from Subs in and around the peninsula.
If they try to go Nuke instead of conventional they would even be more screwed.
Patriot 2's and the missile warning systems are mostly designed for these types of short range attack.
NK wouldn't be able to make it to Seoul as long as America is there.



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Re: 250 enemy against 30 Marines with a bad ass marksman
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2008, 11:37:58 AM »
why korea?

serious question

because if Counterstrike has shown us anything, its that koreans are deadly with assault rifles