Qs on Bulking up

[one555]

Hi I'm 20 years old and I just started lifting. I'm really focusing on putting on weight and getting big rather than cutting up. I'm 6'1 and only 170 lbs. It seems like no matter how much I eat I still have trouble gaining weight. I eat like 3 eggs, 4 slices of bread, 5 pieces of bacon and 5 pieces of sausage in the morning with a mug of milk, around lunch I eat two ramen noodles with summer sausage, tuna, cheese, mayo, pickle and doritos and for dinner I usually have some type of meat (hamburger, pork, steak) and some type of mashed potatos or rice. I lift every other day and on the days I lift I drink a protein shake afterwards. I also take multi vitamins and L-Glutamin.

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong and why I'm not gaining weight??

[turnerg31]

For such a tough question there is a very simple answer, you are burning off more calories then you are consuming.  That's all. Nothing more, nothing less. The million dollar questions of how to gain and loose weight.  To gain, consume more than you burn off. To loose, burn off more than you consume. 

Increase your caloric intake and/or reduce your output. If you're doing cardio, I would cut back or cut it out all together.  Increase your calories by improving your diet (quality and quantity of food)  This is a very general answer but it is the answer.  It can be more detailed, which I'm sure other posters will get into but in my opinion this is the "bulk" of the problem.  lol

Pat

[NaturalWonder83]

add in some good fats like olive oil advocado raw nuts to your meals
increase portions of protein
add in some protein shakes in between meals

[DK II]

Hi I'm 20 years old and I just started lifting. I'm really focusing on putting on weight and getting big rather than cutting up. I'm 6'1 and only 170 lbs. It seems like no matter how much I eat I still have trouble gaining weight. I eat like 3 eggs, 4 slices of bread, 5 pieces of bacon and 5 pieces of sausage in the morning with a mug of milk, around lunch I eat two ramen noodles with summer sausage, tuna, cheese, mayo, pickle and doritos and for dinner I usually have some type of meat (hamburger, pork, steak) and some type of mashed potatos or rice. I lift every other day and on the days I lift I drink a protein shake afterwards. I also take multi vitamins and L-Glutamin.

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong and why I'm not gaining weight??

You only eat crap.

Cut the bacon, sausage, ramen noodle, mayo, doritos.

That is the worst diet i have seen in a long time.

[Eisenherz]

You only eat crap.

Cut the bacon, sausage, ramen noodle, mayo, doritos.

That is the worst diet i have seen in a long time.

The gusy 170 lbs at 6,1 what he's eating isnt of concern atm, let him back on some pounds first before handling the details.

So to original poster. Just eat, eat, and eat some more.

[DK II]

The gusy 170 lbs at 6,1 what he's eating isnt of concern atm, let him back on some pounds first before handling the details.

So to original poster. Just eat, eat, and eat some more.

Bullshit advice!!!

I got the same advice when i started lifting. "You can eat anythin you like and as much as you want!!"

3 months later i was the fattest i have ever been in my life, it took me 6 months to diet down to an acceptable level.


Get a good and healthy diet, with lots of good, lean protein, veggies and healthy fat. THEN up the calories a tad, and check the mirror regularly. When you start gaining fat, drop the calories again. When you don't get fat, add more calories.

But ALWAYS healthy, good food with some occasional cheating. Sausages, bacon an ramen have no place in a BB diet, they provide nothing but saturated and processed fats.

[wes]

DK got it right..........terrible diet,wrong foods,not enough cals or protein or clean carbs,or water.

Eat more food ,eat more meals,drink a lot of water, and use dairy products as well as baked potatoes and lean beef.............. just for starters!

[wes]

Meal # 1:
6 eggs scrambled in non-fat cooking spray
1 slice cheese
1 glass non-fat milk
1 banana

Meal # 2:
1/4 lb. lean steak
1 cup non-fat cottage cheese
1 cup green beans
1 cup non-fat milk

Meal # 3:
6 oz. chicken breast
2 baked potatoes w butter spray
lg. salad with vinegar and olive oil
1 cup non-fat milk

Meal # 4:
6 oz. chicken breat
1 cup brown rice
2 tbsps. natty peanut butter
1 cup non-fat milk

Meal # 5:(before bed)
1/4 lb. lean ground beef
1 cup cottage cheese

Throw in 2 protein shakes and about a gallon of water per day into the mix and train hard!

[one555]

Meal # 1:
6 eggs scrambled in non-fat cooking spray
1 slice cheese
1 glass non-fat milk
1 banana

Meal # 2:
1/4 lb. lean steak
1 cup non-fat cottage cheese
1 cup green beans
1 cup non-fat milk

Meal # 3:
6 oz. chicken breast
2 baked potatoes w butter spray
lg. salad with vinegar and olive oil
1 cup non-fat milk

Meal # 4:
6 oz. chicken breat
1 cup brown rice
2 tbsps. natty peanut butter
1 cup non-fat milk

Meal # 5:(before bed)
1/4 lb. lean ground beef
1 cup cottage cheese

Throw in 2 protein shakes and about a gallon of water per day into the mix and train hard!

Thanks I'm gonna start this new diet today. I just got out of jail and was trying to eat like everyone in there that was getting big heh

[wes]

Good luck bro!

[WH33L3R]

interesting

[JasonH]

Bullshit advice!!!

I got the same advice when i started lifting. "You can eat anythin you like and as much as you want!!"

3 months later i was the fattest i have ever been in my life, it took me 6 months to diet down to an acceptable level.


Get a good and healthy diet, with lots of good, lean protein, veggies and healthy fat. THEN up the calories a tad, and check the mirror regularly. When you start gaining fat, drop the calories again. When you don't get fat, add more calories.

But ALWAYS healthy, good food with some occasional cheating. Sausages, bacon an ramen have no place in a BB diet, they provide nothing but saturated and processed fats.

Good advice there Donkey Kong.


For One555:

Personally I think that "bulking" is such an abused word in bodybuilding. When I started training I was told that I would need to bulk eat which basically meant eating as much high calorie, high protein, and high fat foods as I could get in. Yes, I put on weight very quickly, but it was all fat. Took me forever to get rid of it.

For gaining good quality musular bodyweight, you need to almost "delicately add" extra calories to get that calorie surplus. But first and foremost, your food intake should be regularly consisting of good high quality protein foods like red meat, chicken, fish, and whey protein. These alone won't provide you with a calorie surplus because there's only so much you can eat in one go. You have to add in low glyceamic complex carbohydrates of a significant level in order for you to exceed what your body requires to maintain its current bodyweight. If this doesn't work (which it should), only then should you add in some simple carbs to guarantee you've got a calorie surplus, but only at about 400-500 calories over and above what your body needs to maintain. I guarantee you will gain good quality muscluar bodyweight using this method. If you gain too quickly, i.e., more than 3lbs a week, then back off on the simple carbs and maybe some complex carbs and let your bodyfat levels recover. Too much in high bodyfat levels and your body will be producing cortisol and estrogen levels will also increase, meaning your body won't build muscle, it will actually burn it. Don't get too fat while trying to gain weight - your muscles won't thank you for it.

[one555]

Good advice there Donkey Kong.


For One555:

Personally I think that "bulking" is such an abused word in bodybuilding. When I started training I was told that I would need to bulk eat which basically meant eating as much high calorie, high protein, and high fat foods as I could get in. Yes, I put on weight very quickly, but it was all fat. Took me forever to get rid of it.

For gaining good quality musular bodyweight, you need to almost "delicately add" extra calories to get that calorie surplus. But first and foremost, your food intake should be regularly consisting of good high quality protein foods like red meat, chicken, fish, and whey protein. These alone won't provide you with a calorie surplus because there's only so much you can eat in one go. You have to add in low glyceamic complex carbohydrates of a significant level in order for you to exceed what your body requires to maintain its current bodyweight. If this doesn't work (which it should), only then should you add in some simple carbs to guarantee you've got a calorie surplus, but only at about 400-500 calories over and above what your body needs to maintain. I guarantee you will gain good quality muscluar bodyweight using this method. If you gain too quickly, i.e., more than 3lbs a week, then back off on the simple carbs and maybe some complex carbs and let your bodyfat levels recover. Too much in high bodyfat levels and your body will be producing cortisol and estrogen levels will also increase, meaning your body won't build muscle, it will actually burn it. Don't get too fat while trying to gain weight - your muscles won't thank you for it.

what would be an example of low glyceamic complex carbohydrates?

[Bobby]

what would be an example of low glyceamic complex carbohydrates?

oatmeal, brown rice, whole grain pasta

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

meh I tend to disagree I ate good and healthy in college alot of chicken breasts (10/day), vegetables of all kinds, etc...ate healthy for the bulk and got to to a hyooge 140lbs and had a hard time maintaing it,,,,it was not until college I ate fast food twice/day and was able to put on weight my bodyfat got up to 8% to 185lbs before that I was 140lbs with like 5% or so........it all depends on how fast your body can metabolize the food let it be fats or whatever I tend to say, "a calorie is a calorie and a fat calorie is 3x more dense than protein calorie".

Bullshit advice!!!

I got the same advice when i started lifting. "You can eat anythin you like and as much as you want!!"

3 months later i was the fattest i have ever been in my life, it took me 6 months to diet down to an acceptable level.


Get a good and healthy diet, with lots of good, lean protein, veggies and healthy fat. THEN up the calories a tad, and check the mirror regularly. When you start gaining fat, drop the calories again. When you don't get fat, add more calories.

But ALWAYS healthy, good food with some occasional cheating. Sausages, bacon an ramen have no place in a BB diet, they provide nothing but saturated and processed fats.

[Bluto]

Different strokes for different folks

[DK II]

meh I tend to disagree I ate good and healthy in college alot of chicken breasts (10/day), vegetables of all kinds, etc...ate healthy for the bulk and got to to a hyooge 140lbs and had a hard time maintaing it,,,,it was not until college I ate fast food twice/day and was able to put on weight my bodyfat got up to 8% to 185lbs before that I was 140lbs with like 5% or so........it all depends on how fast your body can metabolize the food let it be fats or whatever I tend to say, "a calorie is a calorie and a fat calorie is 3x more dense than protein calorie".

well, for experienced lifters i'd say eat junk food as much as you can without getting fat, but for starters a good healthy diet should be the best.

[Bluto]

a good healthy diet is hard to stick with for a lot of people, maybe they have lack of will power that is.. well sickening. One has to keep that in mind when giving out advice...

[DK II]

a good healthy diet is hard to stick with for a lot of people, maybe they have lack of will power that is.. well sickening. One has to keep that in mind when giving out advice...

 

So what? Training 5 times a week for years and years, giving all you can in every single training session is "hard" as well. If you are not willing to commit yourself, bodybuilding is the wrong sport for you.

[Bluto]

So what? Training 5 times a week for years and years, giving all you can in every single training session is "hard" as well. If you are not willing to commit yourself, bodybuilding is the wrong sport for you.

People in general would be better off with a diet they can stick with

No need to make things too complicated and too demanding

[DK II]

People in general would be better off with a diet they can stick with

No need to make things too complicated and too demanding

people in general would be better off without training hard as well.

Bluto, i know you hate me and you try to argue against me all the time, but what you write here is plain BS.
Having a healthy diet is NOT demanding and complicated.

Are you saying he should stick with his sausage and bacon menue because having a proper diet is too DEMANDING?

You can kill off any argument with that discussion. A training plan? Too demanding. supplementation? Too demanding.

[Bluto]

people in general would be better off without training hard as well.

Bluto, i know you hate me and you try to argue against me all the time, but what you write here is plain BS.
Having a healthy diet is NOT demanding and complicated.

Are you saying he should stick with his sausage and bacon menue because having a proper diet is too DEMANDING?

You can kill off any argument with that discussion. A training plan? Too demanding. supplementation? Too demanding.

I'm saying most people would probably be better off with a little bit of both, not going too far in either the healthy or unhealthy direction... one has to keep in mind eating is a big part of a social life and work life too...

[DK II]

I'm saying most people would probably be better off with a little bit of both, not going too far in either the healthy or unhealthy direction... one has to keep in mind eating is a big part of a social life and work life too...

Where exactly did i state again that you should never stray from your diet?