ive seen alot of pros in the last 3 decades or so and when a member asked dorian yates how big where his calves,he smiled slightly with a matter of factly type grin and rolled up his sweatpants and said in a low voice(this big)and me and the other gym members just looked at eachother and said,un friggin real.it looked like someone took 2 footballs and stuck them in his calves the stitched the skin back over them,that was back in 93 or 94,the year we here in north jersey got hammered with that bad snowstorm in march,3 feet or more of snow.dorian and flex wheeler where guestposing at the new jersey state bodybuilding championships that weekend.photos just didnt do that man justice imho,also everyones always saying his arms where weak and under developed,they looked pretty damn huge when i seen him,its just that his back and delts are so thick it tends to make his arms look alittle smaller imo.also ive trained next to federove from russia and his calves where also up there close to yates imho,dorians just looked alittle freakier.ive talked to mattarazzo back in the mid 90,s also and he was another one with outstanding calves,they had such great shape to them,im praying mike gets healthy again and atleast enough where he can do some light workouts and enjoy some sports and other activities