Author Topic: Dorian Yates on "Contest Gurus"  (Read 1125 times)

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Dorian Yates on "Contest Gurus"
« on: December 04, 2008, 01:37:30 PM »
[ Q ] You cross me as being a strong individualist. What is your view on these so-called training gurus of today that many bodybuilders employ to help? Would you use one to get into shape?


I think it is such bullsh!t, but maybe that could be my Englishness coming through. Everything is always more complicated and fancy in the States. At least that's the way we see it. Everyone (in the States) goes to therapy and all that sh!t, whereas we would simply say, "F@ck that, just get on with it." The thing that attracted me to bodybuilding in the first place was the fact it is an individual endeavor.

I enjoyed working out the best way to train, studying nutrition and doing my own diet and learning all about every aspect of this. To me that was all part of the challenge and when I stepped onstage, although I had moral support, if I won it was down to me and if I lost it was down to me. No excuses. A lot of guys in bodybuilding unfortunately are so insecure and they just want to be held by the hand and have somebody tell them what to do.

But I could never do that. It wouldn't matter how much I respected the person that was telling me, I would have to listen to the information, go away, assess it and ultimately make my own decision. If somebody said, "listen, this is what you have to eat and this is how you have to train and this is what you will have to take," I simply couldn't do that, whereas a lot of guys want somebody to hold their hand and tell them what to do all the time.

I think nobody could ever know how well your body reacts as you do, if you really study it and keep records. It's your body and you are with it every day. How can some guy looking at your pictures over the internet tell you what to do with it? I'm not a big fan of gurus. I think it is bullsh!t.

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Re: Dorian Yates on "Contest Gurus"
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 08:09:47 PM »
[ Q ] You cross me as being a strong individualist. What is your view on these so-called training gurus of today that many bodybuilders employ to help? Would you use one to get into shape?


I think it is such bullsh!t, but maybe that could be my Englishness coming through. Everything is always more complicated and fancy in the States. At least that's the way we see it. Everyone (in the States) goes to therapy and all that sh!t, whereas we would simply say, "F@ck that, just get on with it." The thing that attracted me to bodybuilding in the first place was the fact it is an individual endeavor.

I enjoyed working out the best way to train, studying nutrition and doing my own diet and learning all about every aspect of this. To me that was all part of the challenge and when I stepped onstage, although I had moral support, if I won it was down to me and if I lost it was down to me. No excuses. A lot of guys in bodybuilding unfortunately are so insecure and they just want to be held by the hand and have somebody tell them what to do.

But I could never do that. It wouldn't matter how much I respected the person that was telling me, I would have to listen to the information, go away, assess it and ultimately make my own decision. If somebody said, "listen, this is what you have to eat and this is how you have to train and this is what you will have to take," I simply couldn't do that, whereas a lot of guys want somebody to hold their hand and tell them what to do all the time.

I think nobody could ever know how well your body reacts as you do, if you really study it and keep records. It's your body and you are with it every day. How can some guy looking at your pictures over the internet tell you what to do with it? I'm not a big fan of gurus. I think it is bullsh!t.


Very sound fucking advice from a great champ.  Thanks for posting it and may others find the same clarity in his words that I did.   

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Re: Dorian Yates on "Contest Gurus"
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 08:14:01 PM »
I've become a huge Dorian fan after reading his honest quotes lately.

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Re: Dorian Yates on "Contest Gurus"
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2008, 08:21:18 PM »
And yet Dorian had no problem taking money from guys like Titus/Cormier/and the jesus freak...

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Re: Dorian Yates on "Contest Gurus"
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2008, 09:04:34 PM »
And yet Dorian had no problem taking money from guys like Titus/Cormier/and the jesus freak...

There is a difference between adivising someone and holding their hand. I would say there is no one better from which to seek advice than Dorian.  I highly doubt, for whatever amount of money, that he would coddle a client and not make them exert their own independance in their preparations, the way many so called "gurus" evidently do.  That isn't the type of bodybuilder Yates was in his own career, so he is unlikely to be a proponent of such a style now.