Ummmm....aren't there four rounds? If there are four rounds and Yates won one of them, who won the other three?
Listen to what you just said!!! A 241-lb Haney couldn't add 16 lbs of muscle in two years. But, a 239-lb Yates can? What sense does that make? Age isn't a factor, as Haney was just 3 years older than Yates.
Both Haney and Yates are listed at 5'11". I compare them, based on what they brought to the stage, particularly when they faced each other in '91. I give Haney the edge.
Your assumption that Haney could not do what Yates is rather unfounded. As I said, Yates can only beat Haney if he's bigger (and there's no guarantee that he could do that). At the same size (as they were in '91), Haney tops Yates: Better proportions, symmetry, and V-taper.
Ummmm....aren't there four rounds? If there are four rounds and Yates won one of them, who won the other three?
there were four rounds , Muscularity round , Symmetry round and the two posing rounds , the meat & potatoes for any contest is the pre-judging ( muscularity & symmetry rounds ) 99% of the time the contest is decided here the night show ( posing rounds ) was mearly a formality
Dorian beat Haney in the muscularity round despite being 10 pounds lighter , Haney was 249 pounds and Yates 239 pounds
Listen to what you just said!!! A 241-lb Haney couldn't add 16 lbs of muscle in two years. But, a 239-lb Yates can? What sense does that make? Age isn't a factor, as Haney was just 3 years older than Yates.
Adding the size is one thing making sure that size hard dense muscle is another , Haney himself said he competed at 257 pounds and was very soft at that weight , Dorian could carry more muscle while his density & dryness wouldn't be negatively effected
Both Haney and Yates are listed at 5'11". I compare them, based on what they brought to the stage, particularly when they faced each other in '91. I give Haney the edge.
Lee is 5'11" Dorian is listed at 5'10" 1/2 , Haney was the clear winner in 1991 but what Yates did was remarkable in his first Olympia ( only his 3rd pro show ) he managed to defeat the untouchable Lee Haney in his bread & butter the muscularity rounds that speaks volumes and the writing was on the wall
Your assumption that Haney could not do what Yates is rather unfounded. As I said, Yates can only beat Haney if he's bigger (and there's no guarantee that he could do that). At the same size (as they were in '91), Haney tops Yates: Better proportions, symmetry, and V-taper.
It's not unfounded , in fact Haney admitted that at heavier weights he became soft , Dorian would maintain his insane conditioning for very high bodyweights . you're also comparing Dorian in his forst Olympia to a seasoned vet who was arguably at his personal all-time best and he still lost the muscularity round .
If Dorian showed up in the shape he was in 1992 and Haney the exact same shape he was in 1991 I think Haney would have beat him again , barely , Dorian by 1993 would have left Haney for dead no doubts about it
Haney = smart man , retired undefeated went out on top and retied at the best he ever looked . he had nothing to gain by competing again.
