I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...

[Alex23]

Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.

[marcus]

Are you gonna hit the sauce and enter Mr Getbig 4?

[SquatAss]

What you are is pretty fucking dellusional.

[WillGrant]

Cut down your arms will be 17 tops..
Im not sure if you should diet down then jump on the gear or jump on now then diet back down again..
If you got on the juice and added 30 pounds 10-15 of that will be more fat.I think your bf % is to high now..
So diet it off then juice  

[Canadian_Muscle]

Well considering there's guys that weigh 145lbs that get a pro card each year, i'd have to agree with you. 

[Alex23]

Please no negativity; be fair and respectful.

[WillGrant]

Well considering there's guys that weigh 145lbs that get a pro card each year, i'd have to agree with you. 

Yes , but alex @ 5% would proberly close to 180 anyway.his bf is very high.
Not hating on him , but people really should chuck the scale out the window..lighter guys would destroy him with better over all condition.

[Alex23]

Cut down your arms will be 17 tops..
Im not sure if you should diet down then jump on the gear or jump on now then diet back down again..
If you got on the juice and added 30 pounds 10-15 of that will be more fat.I think your bf % is to high now..
So diet it off then juice  

I don't really care about measurements, bodyfat and shit.. but standing at 245 ish on a 5'10" frame, I'm pretty sure I can diet down a little and still be massively owning the detractors.

[WillGrant]

Please no negativity; be fair and respectful.

Im not hating bro..I think you are a big powerfull guy but really when talking bodybuilding you cant flex fat sorry mate.

[WillGrant]

I don't really care about measurements, bodyfat and shit.. but standing at 245 ish on a 5'10" frame, I'm pretty sure I can diet down a little and still be massively owning the detractors.

Do it then 

[Soundness]

Please no negativity; be fair and respectful.

Lookin big Alex. You'd have quite a bit of muscle for a natural pro.  

[flexingtonsteele]

Explore your potential bro! Do whatever it takes and see where that takes you!

Good luck in your journey

[Karl Kox]

Looking good man. All the way big dude

[Alex23]

Yes , but alex @ 5% would proberly close to 180 anyway.his bf is very high.
Not hating on him , but people really should chuck the scale out the window..lighter guys would destroy him with better over all condition.

Thanks Will I appreciate your input. But I think you're over estimating how massive I am. Here I am standing at 235... comfortably lean...

Why would I be 4% of 'bodyfat' anyway? Isn't it unhealthy?

[Karl Kox]

nice size

[#1 Klaus fan]

Nowhere near the size of Coleman and Ruhl, the greatest naturals ever.

[flexingtonsteele]

Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.

just curious alex, what do u want to get at the end of this "experiment"

[Canadian_Muscle]

Yes , but alex @ 5% would proberly close to 180 anyway.his bf is very high.
Not hating on him , but people really should chuck the scale out the window..lighter guys would destroy him with better over all condition.

Yeah I was just kiddin. I know those 145lb guys get in great condition, and usually have really good physiques. But you're right, weight isn't the biggest factor when it comes to being the best bodybuilder. Look at how many random pictures of foreign freaks you see posted on these forums, then you see them onstage and it's a whole different ball game.

[Alex23]

Explore your potential bro! Do whatever it takes and see where that takes you!

Good luck in your journey

Lookin big Alex. You'd have quite a bit of muscle for a natural pro.  

Thanks brothers of Iron and Sushi.

What kind of gain should I expect from a chemical enhancement? Yes, the "fat" is obvious but the juicy cells screaming to grow is too. Wouldn't those receptors suck it in and do their job?

I'm expecting 20" arms pretty dry; I'm already 19" and barely training, got married and being eating shit all month...

[Soundness]

Thanks Will I appreciate your input. But I think you're over estimating how massive I am. Here I am standing at 235... comfortably lean...

Why would I be 4% of 'bodyfat' anyway? Isn't it unhealthy?

For a natural you're huge, Alex. Huge chest, too. That's what most guys want more than anything.  

[WillGrant]

Thanks Will I appreciate your input. But I think you're over estimating how massive I am. Here I am standing at 235... comfortably lean...

Why would I be 4% of 'bodyfat' anyway? Isn't it unhealthy?

Because CM was talking about 150pd pros,,these guys get dwn to 5% or lower.
Yes its very unhealthy..that really brings into perspective the guys that get on stage at those low bf levels.thats a shitload of muscle.

I think if you went down to 220 ish pounds at close to 10 % bf you would look like an animal..
A 17 inch arm ripped would look bigger than a fat 18- 19 inch arm..

Again mate not hating just keeping it real.  

[Alex23]

just curious alex, what do u want to get at the end of this "experiment"

Simple my brother; Look like a cartoon character, wear XXXL no questions asked. Have the "freak" tag on my back, plain and simple. I'm pretty sure I can.

[m8]

I don't really care about measurements, bodyfat and shit.. but standing at 245 ish on a 5'10" frame, I'm pretty sure I can diet down a little and still be massively owning the detractors.

synthol

[marcus]

Simple my brother; Look like a cartoon character, wear XXXL no questions asked. Have the "freak" tag on my back, plain and simple. I'm pretty sure I can.

You would make good money on the side at g4p parties.

[Alex23]

Because CM was talking about 150pd pros,,these guys get dwn to 5% or lower.
Yes its very unhealthy..that really brings into perspective the guys that get on stage at those low bf levels.thats a shitload of muscle.

I think if you went down to 220 ish pounds at close to 10 % bf you would look like an animal..
A 17 inch arm ripped would look bigger than a fat 18- 19 inch arm..

Again mate not hating just keeping it real.  

Thanks Will, appreciate your honest, you're being fair and balanced mate.

But doesn't arms blow pretty good once "enhanced"? would my "fat"  19 inchers become fat 20"+ then cut down?