Comments on Dorian's comments about Nasser.

[Sherief Shalaby]

no not a training problem, coz his back looked ok in 94 and early 95 when was competing at around 250 pounds.. only when he started 2 compete over 270 pounds his back lacked details.. but if he didnt knw hw 2 train it as u r saying he wouldn't have gained all this size in it..

I'm presenting an interpretation on the basis of how the contest itself was evidently judged.  You are free to disagree and interpret the contest differently, that is your prerogative.  Simply put, Nasser knew what he had to do in order to put himself in a better position to win the title.  It was well publicized that he needed to improve his back substantially.  He didn't, therefore he didn't win.  As a result, it shouldn't come as any surprise that his mantle is devoid of a Sandow.  Either his back was a bodypart that simply didn't respond, or he didn't make the necessary adjustments to his training in order to improve it enough.  From what I understand, his training form for back exercises was extremely poor. 

[Sherief Shalaby]

so wht about dorian's shoulders, why did they look so smaller beside kvn lvrn or nasser??.. was he training them in a poor way or they just didnt respond good

I'm presenting an interpretation on the basis of how the contest itself was evidently judged.  You are free to disagree and interpret the contest differently, that is your prerogative.  Simply put, Nasser knew what he had to do in order to put himself in a better position to win the title.  It was well publicized that he needed to improve his back substantially.  He didn't, therefore he didn't win.  As a result, it shouldn't come as any surprise that his mantle is devoid of a Sandow.  Either his back was a bodypart that simply didn't respond, or he didn't make the necessary adjustments to his training in order to improve it enough.  From what I understand, his training form for back exercises was extremely poor. 

[dr.chimps]

u still didnt say ur "own" opinion..

Hmm. Don't know if I have a horse in this race. I've never 'gotten' Dorian - great back, calves and conditioning aside - I've always found him blocky and sort of thrown together. Nasser, lacks a bit in conditioning, and has a lesser back, but I find he has better 'flow' than Dorian. So, six of one and half-dozen of the other!? Not worth arguing about is what I'm saying. 

Edit: Never like the (later) shitty arms on Dorian. A Mr. Olympia should have the guns. 

[Big Worm]

go and fuck urself..

HAHA!! Get a grip buddy...! Nasser will never ,ever be a champion...His time came and went...At his best...he wasnt good enough. At his worst...He wasn't good... Uncrowned Mr.Olympia.. HAHAHA!!

[Mr.1derful]

so wht about dorian's shoulders, why did they look so smaller beside kvn lvrn or nasser??.. was he training them in a poor way or they just didnt respond good

I fail to grasp the intended point of your pointing out perceived flaws in Dorian's physique.  Obviously, whatever they may be, they are not relevant, being that Dorian won with straight first scores.  Flaws are only relevant for those aspiring to win the title, but failing to.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Hw r u Mr. worm

HAHA!! Get a grip buddy...! Nasser will never ,ever be a champion...His time came and went...At his best...he wasnt good enough. At his worst...He wasn't good... Uncrowned Mr.Olympia.. HAHAHA!!

[Hulkster]

Obviously, whatever they may be, they are not relevant, being that Dorian won with straight first scores.

no, they would have been VERY relevant with accurate judging...

you cant look at the score sheet alone and say dorian was perfect.

you have to look at that, then look to his physique, and well, the two are far far apart, at least post tear..

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, they would have been VERY relevant with accurate judging...

you cant look at the score sheet alone and say dorian was perfect.

you have to look at that, then look to his physique, and well, the two are far far apart, at least post tear..

didn't Kevin Horton explain to you about how contests are judged you dummy? didn't he explain that one can still lose poses and still get straight firsts? lol brutal selfowning again

[jon cole]

dorian once say to me that "nasser will never win mrO cos he refuse to join the G4p weider team".

[chester_bbb]

so wht about dorian's shoulders, why did they look so smaller beside kvn lvrn or nasser??.. was he training them in a poor way or they just didnt respond good

Yates=hard training
Levrone=esiclene
Nasser=synthol

HTH

[jon cole]

Yates=hard training
Levrone=esiclene
Nasser=synthol

HTH

ronnie coleman=grits

[Alex23]

ronnie coleman=grits

yip yip

[Alex23]

nasser is owning dorian in all those shots w/ exception of rear lat spread.  anyone who disagrees doesnt know shit about bodybuilding

Settle down "Big" tymer... there is more to it.

[Sharma]

is not an interesting coincidence that the army of clowns who spend all their life talking about Nasser El Sonbaty in a bitter way are also the ones who are openly the most racist against Arabs and the Muslim?

hmm it is also revealing that even the Yates no1 fanboy, nastysissy dietboy , cannot even say that he thought Yates had the best physique in 1997. he just has to make silly arguments about the judging criteria meaning he deserved to win.

this after we KNOW that many judges had the repugnant, reformed violent racist and convicted burglar as low as 3rd and 4th place.

stupid, pasty face racists.

[Alex23]

is not an interesting coincidence that the army of clowns who spend all their life talking about Nasser El Sonbaty in a bitter way are also the ones who are openly the most racist against Arabs and the Muslim?

hmm it is also revealing that even the Yates no1 fanboy, nastysissy dietboy , cannot even say that he thought Yates had the best physique in 1997. he just has to make silly arguments about the judging criteria meaning he deserved to win.

this after we KNOW that many judges had the repugnant, reformed violent racist and convicted burglar as low as 3rd and 4th place.

stupid, pasty face racists.

How's the weather in Chi-town big guy?

[Big Worm]

Hw r u Mr. worm

Okay Brotha..Yourself?

[WillGrant]

is not an interesting coincidence that the army of clowns who spend all their life talking about Nasser El Sonbaty in a bitter way are also the ones who are openly the most racist against Arabs and the Muslim?

hmm it is also revealing that even the Yates no1 fanboy, nastysissy dietboy , cannot even say that he thought Yates had the best physique in 1997. he just has to make silly arguments about the judging criteria meaning he deserved to win.

this after we KNOW that many judges had the repugnant, reformed violent racist and convicted burglar as low as 3rd and 4th place.

stupid, pasty face racists.

Nasser ,does Sharif Shalawabi buy your sweat soaked thongs like bigslob does?

[Mr.1derful]

is not an interesting coincidence that the army of clowns who spend all their life talking about Nasser El Sonbaty in a bitter way are also the ones who are openly the most racist against Arabs and the Muslim?

hmm it is also revealing that even the Yates no1 fanboy, nastysissy dietboy , cannot even say that he thought Yates had the best physique in 1997. he just has to make silly arguments about the judging criteria meaning he deserved to win.

this after we KNOW that many judges had the repugnant, reformed violent racist and convicted burglar as low as 3rd and 4th place.

stupid, pasty face racists.

So, the judges are racist and this is to blame for Nasser having not won the Mr. Olympia??  If racism were really such an issue, why would this band of so called racist judges even allow Nasser to place as high as second?  Rather than playing the race card like a fool, perhaps you should be more logical and realize that Nasser simply was not deserving of the title. 

[Sherief Shalaby]

yes yes nasser was not deserving the title and the one deformed arm big belly dorian deserved it.. yes yes you r talking right.. you know if kevin leverone for example took it tht day i wouldn't argue wth one word coz like tht it would be apple vs orange comparison with nasser.. and i cant base my argument on my own taste.. but in yates case it was orange vs rotten orange comparison bet. nasr and drn.. at his best yates ws the best ever but in 97 he ws far away from his best and for me didnt deserve to be even 2nd..

So, the judges are racist and this is to blame for Nasser having not won the Mr. Olympia??  If racism were really such an issue, why would this band of so called racist judges even allow Nasser to place as high as second?  Rather than playing the race card like a fool, perhaps you should be more logical and realize that Nasser simply was not deserving of the title. 

[WillGrant]

yes yes nasser was not deserving the title and the one deformed arm big belly dorian deserved it.. yes yes you r talking right.. you know if kevin leverone for example took it tht day i wouldn't argue wth one word coz like tht it would be apple vs orange comparison with nasser.. and i cant base my argument on my own taste.. but in yates case it was orange vs rotten orange comparison bet. nasr and drn.. at his best yates ws the best ever but in 97 he ws far away from his best and for me didnt deserve to be even 2nd..

Why are you so obsessed with Nasi , Sharif? 

[Sherief Shalaby]

whn saying tht dorian at his best ws the best ever, does this make me a blind nasser follower???... here in this thread i am saying tht dorian looked very bad in 97 and didnt deserve to beat the other top guys tht's all.. in 97 i felt bad 4 dorian 2 look like this and felt very bad 4 the sport..

u hate nasser coz he is muslim and half arab, ok this is ur opinion and u r free but dont say his body ws shit just coz u hate muslims..

dont be another piece of shit and try 2 answe wth some logic..

Why are you so obsessed with Nasi , Sharif? 

[Ruffneck]

is not an interesting coincidence that the army of clowns who spend all their life talking about Nasser El Sonbaty in a bitter way are also the ones who are openly the most racist against Arabs and the Muslim?

hmm it is also revealing that even the Yates no1 fanboy, nastysissy dietboy , cannot even say that he thought Yates had the best physique in 1997. he just has to make silly arguments about the judging criteria meaning he deserved to win.

this after we KNOW that many judges had the repugnant, reformed violent racist and convicted burglar as low as 3rd and 4th place.

stupid, pasty face racists.

Hmmmm

[just_a_pilgrim]

Sherief you seem pretty committed to this, you are even putting links to Nasser fan pages on Dorian pages on Facebook

[WillGrant]

whn saying tht dorian at his best ws the best ever, does this make me a blind nasser follower???... here in this thread i am saying tht dorian looked very bad in 97 and didnt deserve to beat the other top guys tht's all.. in 97 i felt bad 4 dorian 2 look like this and felt very bad 4 the sport..

u hate nasser coz he is muslim and half arab, ok this is ur opinion and u r free but dont say his body ws shit just coz u hate muslims..

dont be another piece of shit and try 2 answe wth some logic..

In reality I dont hate Nasser..but look how he acts , like a sore looser..Dorian was the best of his era , haney was the best before him and big ron after him..Of course there were "close" calls after all it was a competition..but it was over 10 years ago..id respect him more if he was graceful in defeat.  

[Ruffneck]

In reality I dont hate Nasser..but look how he acts , like a sore looser..Dorian was the best of his era , haney was the best before him and big ron after him..Of course there were "close" calls after all it was a competition..but it was over 10 years ago..id respect him more if he was graceful in defeat.  

Never gonna happen though is it, his whingeing, crying and dishing out of the dirt on friends & the race card sickens me and what is just as bad are all of his fanboys worshipping a man who carrys on like a petulant schoolboy who dwells on the past and cant move on and they cant move on with him.........such "injustice" from 11 years ago need at least 500 threads so all the good upstanding GB members do not succumb to bitterness and twattyness!