Author Topic: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.  (Read 18279 times)

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #200 on: December 11, 2008, 06:04:41 PM »
could have been anyone. but it wasn't Kevin. he is an excellent photographer with a great reputation.

almost everyone who has seen it feels it is obviously morphed - look how many threads were started about it.

I am really surprised you can't see it is morphed either - its pretty obvious - esp with the comparsions to Platz. dorian never had quads like that.

but I understand that you would NEVER admit that you felt it was morphed even if you knew it was - because you need an 'advantage' in the ronnie dorian debate...

the difference with everyone else is that we don't need the advantage so everyone is saying what is obvious: the quads are worked..





You're not paying attention , the pic was posted after it was posted YOU claimed it was morphed , Kevin said it wasn't , so entertaining he didn't do it , he still seen it and according to you he's LYING to protect those who did do it? LOL great logic

I don't need any angles that pic is insane , Dorian would crushed Ronnie at 269 , 1993/1995 Olympia

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #201 on: December 11, 2008, 06:09:22 PM »
I love how you claim I said it was morphed.

actually everyone said it was morphed. look around..

this is the bb.com pic, saved from one of the threads:

the quads/waistline are..well...you can see: compared to platz again..

I am going to delete that other shot cause someone (ND?) fucked with it again..
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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #202 on: December 11, 2008, 06:15:40 PM »
I love how you claim I said it was morphed.

actually everyone said it was morphed. look around..

this is the bb.com pic, saved from one of the threads:

the quads/waistline are..well...you can see: compared to platz again..

I am going to delete that other shot cause someone (ND?) fucked with it again..

I never morphed any pics  ;) I never sharpened any either  ;) and why delete? you never deleted the dozens of worked screencaps iceman/Bizzy made for you  ;)

and you're avoiding the question is Horton lying for the guy who did ' morph ' it?

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #203 on: December 11, 2008, 06:23:20 PM »
I find it hard to believe that bodybuilding.com would deliberately tamper with Kevin Horton's work and expect him to turn a blind eye to it. I would however like Kevin Horton to clear up one or two things on behalf of the nut-huggers e.g. why the background and lighting appear the same in both 94 and 95. The only possible explanation I can think of is a mini studio was set-up in Temple Gym complete with lighting and was left untouched for a whole year. There may have been markings on the floor telling Dorian exactly where to stand for the next shoot. The hair is clearly shorter and lighter in the 95 shot.

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #204 on: December 11, 2008, 06:30:10 PM »
I find it hard to believe that bodybuilding.com would deliberately tamper with Kevin Horton's work and expect him to turn a blind eye to it. I would however like Kevin Horton to clear up one or two things on behalf of the nut-huggers e.g. why the background and lighting appear the same in both 94 and 95. The only possible explanation I can think of is a mini studio was set-up in Temple Gym complete with lighting and was left untouched for a whole year. There may have been markings on the floor telling Dorian exactly where to stand for the next shoot. The hair is clearly shorter and lighter in the 95 shot.

exactly the hair is noticeably different

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #205 on: December 11, 2008, 06:32:45 PM »
exactly the hair is noticeably different

 ??? ::)


look: the hair is identical in every possible detail:

look directly up from dorian's forehead. even the curls are identical...
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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #206 on: December 11, 2008, 06:35:04 PM »
??? ::)


look: the hair is identical in every possible detail:

look directly up from dorian's forehead. even the curls are identical...

No it's not the sides are darker on the front double biceps and the front latspread they're much closer cropped to the side of his head

and answer the question , are you now claiming Kevin didn't do it but is covering up for those who did?

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #207 on: December 11, 2008, 06:39:05 PM »
huh? I saved that right from one of the threads ???

I don't even have morphing software, or have any clue how to do it..

ND was this your work? ???

MemberX did that shot.

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #208 on: December 11, 2008, 06:39:28 PM »
exactly the hair is noticeably different

And the 95 shot could've been taken immediately after a leg workout which might explain why the legs appear slightly bigger than normal.

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #209 on: December 11, 2008, 06:40:35 PM »
Kevin didn't morph it. I believe him.

but as someone stated, others at bb.com may have morphed the pic

Kevin believes the pic was not morphed.

few believe it wasn't at least based on the ridiculous quads shown that dorian never had..

thats the facts, plain and simple.

ND, I ask you this:

do YOU believe the shot is genuine - ie that dorians' quads miraculously flared up and got bigger like no other time in his career, then shrunk back down again the next day?

answer the question
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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #210 on: December 11, 2008, 06:41:38 PM »
And the 95 shot could've been taken after a leg workout which might explain why the legs appear slightly bigger than normal.

LMAO.

you don't gain 4 inches in your quads and a miraculous never before seen sweep after a leg workout..

like I said, you guys need an advantage, and holy fuck are you reaching for it now... ::)
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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #211 on: December 11, 2008, 06:41:41 PM »
I never morphed any pics  ;) I never sharpened any either  ;) and why delete? you never deleted the dozens of worked screencaps iceman/Bizzy made for you  ;)

and you're avoiding the question is Horton lying for the guy who did ' morph ' it?

LOL, first you thought I was Hulkster when I first started posting here a while back. Now you think I'm bizzy, lol. Just ask Ron and he will tell you I'm neither.

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #212 on: December 11, 2008, 06:42:58 PM »
LOL, first you thought I was Hulkster when I first started posting here a while back. Now you think I'm bizzy, lol. Just ask Ron and he will tell you I'm neither.

I know you're Bizzy I could care less what Ron says , you gave that one away a long time ago.  ;)

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #213 on: December 11, 2008, 06:44:00 PM »
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And the 95 shot could've been taken after a leg workout which might explain why the legs appear slightly bigger than normal

or it was photoshopped.. 8)
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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #214 on: December 11, 2008, 06:46:40 PM »
Kevin didn't morph it. I believe him.

but as someone stated, others at bb.com may have morphed the pic

Kevin believes the pic was not morphed.

few believe it wasn't at least based on the ridiculous quads shown that dorian never had..

thats the facts, plain and simple.

ND, I ask you this:

do YOU believe the shot is genuine - ie that dorians' quads miraculously flared up and got bigger like no other time in his career, then shrunk back down again the next day?

answer the question

Kevin would know if anyone if it's not morphed it's not a matter of ' belief ' he gave them a picture and when it was posted it looks nothing like the original? and he says specifically it's not morphed

either way you're claiming Kevin is lying

and when I first seen the pic I couldn't believe the size of his quads , but Kevin said eons ago that he has pre-contest pics of Dorian before the 1995 Mr Olympia that were out of this world , he a reported 283 pounds so it's believable his quads could be that pic , Dorian always sacrificed a lot of muscle when he dieted down , so it's possible .

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #215 on: December 11, 2008, 06:47:37 PM »
I know you're Bizzy I could care less what Ron says , you gave that one away a long time ago.  ;)

And this was given away when? How? Proof?

Get a life man. My style and choice of words are different than bizzy's. Stop thinking of me  ;D

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #216 on: December 11, 2008, 06:47:59 PM »
And the 95 shot could've been taken immediately after a leg workout which might explain why the legs appear slightly bigger than normal.

If he had worked his legs that day there would be very little if any cuts in them.  Pumping blood into the quads takes away the cuts.  Pumping your legs before posing is something NO one would ever do if they were about to pose on stage or for a photo.

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #217 on: December 11, 2008, 06:49:11 PM »
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either way you're claiming Kevin is lying

why do you always put words in people's mouths? ::)

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #218 on: December 11, 2008, 06:51:31 PM »
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and when I first seen the pic I couldn't believe the size of his quads , but Kevin said eons ago that he has pre-contest pics of Dorian before the 1995 Mr Olympia that were out of this world , he a reported 283 pounds so it's believable his quads could be that pic , Dorian always sacrificed a lot of muscle when he dieted down , so it's possible .

not possible when you compare him to an even heavier bodyweight, and its nowhere close, not to mention the difference in waistlines..:

sorry, there goes your theory..
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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #219 on: December 11, 2008, 06:51:37 PM »
Kevin would know if anyone if it's not morphed it's not a matter of ' belief ' he gave them a picture and when it was posted it looks nothing like the original? and he says specifically it's not morphed

either way you're claiming Kevin is lying

and when I first seen the pic I couldn't believe the size of his quads , but Kevin said eons ago that he has pre-contest pics of Dorian before the 1995 Mr Olympia that were out of this world , he a reported 283 pounds so it's believable his quads could be that pic , Dorian always sacrificed a lot of muscle when he dieted down , so it's possible .

Kevin needs to forget about bodybuilding and get on the treadmill.  I'm worried about his health after seeing the "week in the dungeon" DVD.

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #220 on: December 11, 2008, 06:52:51 PM »
And this was given away when? How? Proof?

Get a life man. My style and choice of words are different than bizzy's. Stop thinking of me  ;D

He's a merciless poster who will stop at no end to continue embarrassing himself.

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #221 on: December 11, 2008, 06:54:12 PM »
He's a merciless poster who will stop at no end to continue embarrassing himself.

very true.

ND is already embarassing himself by supposedly being the biggest dorian guy on the board yet he doesn't even know what dorian's quads looked like, not even enough to tell an obvious photoshop! ;)
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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #222 on: December 11, 2008, 06:57:30 PM »
not possible when you compare him to an even heavier bodyweight, and its nowhere close, not to mention the difference in waistlines..:

sorry, there goes your theory..

it also doesn't make sense that Dorian would purposely lose 25 lbs of muscle in the pursuit for better conditioning yet show up onstage with worse definition. ???




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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #223 on: December 11, 2008, 07:03:39 PM »
why do you always put words in people's mouths? ::)

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I'm not either way you're saying he's not being honest

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Re: The final chapter to the Ronnie Vs Dorian saga.
« Reply #224 on: December 11, 2008, 07:07:33 PM »
I'm not either way you're saying he's not being honest

no, you moron.

there is a difference between being dishonest (intentional deception) and simply being mistaken (an honest mistake)

Kevin said he did not morph the pic. he is being honest and we have no reason not to believe him.

Kevin also said he believes that no one morphed the pic. he could be wrong - again, you should know. dorian never had quads like that ever.

even for a day..
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