Mike Mentzer

[PJim]

Great forearms, triceps and calves on Mentzer.

[luvvsuNOT]

Great forearms, triceps and calves on Mentzer.

Um, aren't you forgetting one other thing?

[NaturalWonder83]

mike looks great!
i wish i could look like that one day!

who knows what his diet was?
anyone?
any old timers know???

[Voice of Doom]

His stache was robbed in '80!

[nycbull]

Mike loved to indulge.  He enjoyed all varieties of illicit substances.  And yes, he had issues with alcohol and cigarettes as well.

Mike died a tormented and twisted soul.  His legacy is quite unimpressive; a whiny voice, a grotesque moustache, track marks, a vile breath and a huge library of purile philosophy literature.

It is true that Mike despised Arnold.  Many belief that his deep and bitter hatred of the great man is in part, responsible for his early and predictable death.

how dare you, how fucking dare you!

[Eric2]

Mike never got over getting his ass handed to him by Arnold the great, he went nuts, drank his own piss. Rambled on and on about bullshit philosophy got fat and died.

[Ruffneck]

Mentzer had a great physique and his stache was of ridiculously epic proportions but all that Ann Rand shit, well he could have shoved that bollocks up his anus.

Surely Mike = Meltdown

[WillGrant]

Ann Rand shit, well he could have shoved that bollocks up his anus.

He proberly tryed 

[#1 Klaus fan]

Surely Mike = Meltdown

Haha, that is right, Mike is the epitome of total meltdown.

[Canadian_Muscle]

Haha, that is right, Mike is the epitome of total meltdown.

He never recovered 

[luvvsuNOT]

He never recovered 

It really is too bad and tragic that Mentzer took his 1980 loss so hard. There's politics involved in everything and people get screwed. Look how long Bob Chic had to languish as an amateur and does anyone really believe that Putnum deserved his pro card? And look at Jay in 2001. The list goes on and on and Mike got it no worse than anybody else. Life isn't fair and it's perseverance that often makes the difference. I never would have thought Mike, one of the sources of inspiration as a teen, to have such a weak character.

Obviously Mike, nor anyone else, would have beaten the smoothed quad, bow legged, gyno ridden Franco in 1981 (which was the biggest travesty ever in Olympia history) as that again was a lock orchestrated by Arnold and even Franco's own considerable clout. But if Mike just equaled his 1980 form I think he would have taken the 1982 crown quite handily. Dickerson could not match Mike's total package. Mike would have been in his early thirties, he would have captured the O on his fourth try and history would have been different. Perhaps we would have been spared the horrific image of Mike directing traffic on the 405 nude and cowering under a desk in a bank.

Either way, the glorious mustache would have always lived on.

[Bluto]

Great post.

I think we Michael Mentzer-appreciators of Getbig are a brotherhood.

[Danimal77]

The most badass 'stache in bodybuilding

225 pounds of pure ripped and proportioned muscle. One of the greatest.

[New Hank Wood]

The only legacy Mike left was his whiny voice....Yes, the Jays and the Lees certainly picked up on this unfortunate characteristic!

Bottom line, Mike is just another dead bodybuilder. 

He tortured his mind and body through the use of steroids, alcohol and cocaine. And what did he become as a result of this abuse?  A rambling, incoherent lunatic.

Yes, it was kind of sad to see how quickly Mike receded; after he stopped injecting the roids. 

In actual fact, within a few short months his arms looked like spaghetti and his chest became sunken.

The lesson here is; live clean, train clean and be your own person. 

Drugs are for the weak minded and the insecure.....  Mike certainly proved this to be the case!

[tommywishbone]

Not that much mass , but a boatload of symmertry, and plenty of density.

[luvvsuNOT]

The only legacy Mike left was his whiny voice....Yes, the Jays and the Lees certainly picked up on this unfortunate characteristic!

Bottom line, Mike is just another dead bodybuilder. 

He tortured his mind and body through the use of steroids, alcohol and cocaine. And what did he become as a result of this abuse?  A rambling, incoherent lunatic.

Yes, it was kind of sad to see how quickly Mike receded; after he stopped injecting the roids. 

In actual fact, within a few short months his arms looked like spaghetti and his chest became sunken.

The lesson here is; live clean, train clean and be your own person. 

Drugs are for the weak minded and the insecure.....  Mike certainly proved this to be the case!

You are so off on this. Sure he had major flaws, the whiny, nasal a particular galling one. But the man left a legacy. This is easily evident when a debate ensues regarding his training methodology. The theads, both pro and con, grow passionate and heated, and inevitably are locked.

His impact was tremendous and he's hardly given credit for it (though admittedly most of his ideas came from Jones). Remember the Arnold days when they were training each body part 2-3 times a week? When they didn't distinguish between intensity and duration? When the pump was the be all and end all? Who even talked about genetics during that time? Why Arnold was Arnold and though people copied him nobody was close to him during that time? Who talked about the difference between localized recovery and systemic recovery? In fact, who talked about the importance of recovery at all or even the idea of over training. What about the weak links like biceps when training lats and triceps when training chest and how the principle of pre-exhaustion can circumvent that?
He even was the first to dismiss the idea of "reforming" or "shaping" your muscles by certain exercises like trying to do concentration curls for a "peak" or Scott curls for your "lower" biceps. That muscle shape was genetically predetermined and no matter how many incline presses you do you're never going to get Franco's armour plated upper chest.

You are very, very wrong about Mike Mentzer not having a legacy. His impact was great and will continue to be.

Please retract your statement about his mustache being "grotesque." This is now my second request. Don't make me dismiss you ala gh15.

[Man of Steel]

You are so off on this. Sure he had major flaws, the whiny, nasal a particular galling one. But the man left a legacy. This is easily evident when a debate ensues regarding his training methodology. The theads, both pro and con, grow passionate and heated, and inevitably are locked.

His impact was tremendous and he's hardly given credit for it (though admittedly most of his ideas came from Jones). Remember the Arnold days when they were training each body part 2-3 times a week? When they didn't distinguish between intensity and duration? When the pump was the be all and end all? Who even talked about genetics during that time? Why Arnold was Arnold and though people copied him nobody was close to him during that time? Who talked about the difference between localized recovery and systemic recovery? In fact, who talked about the importance of recovery at all or even the idea of over training. What about the weak links like biceps when training lats and triceps when training chest and how the principle of pre-exhaustion can circumvent that?
He even was the first to dismiss the idea of "reforming" or "shaping" your muscles by certain exercises like trying to do concentration curls for a "peak" or Scott curls for your "lower" biceps. That muscle shape was genetically predetermined and no matter how many incline presses you do you're never going to get Franco's armour plated upper chest.

You are very, very wrong about Mike Mentzer not having a legacy. His impact was great and will continue to be.

Please retract your statement about his mustache being "grotesque." This is now my second request. Don't make you dismiss you ala gh15.

There are things jockrider?

[Bluto]

You are so off on this. Sure he had major flaws, the whiny, nasal a particular galling one. But the man left a legacy. This is easily evident when a debate ensues regarding his training methodology. The theads, both pro and con, grow passionate and heated, and inevitably are locked.

His impact was tremendous and he's hardly given credit for it (though admittedly most of his ideas came from Jones). Remember the Arnold days when they were training each body part 2-3 times a week? When they didn't distinguish between intensity and duration? When the pump was the be all and end all? Who even talked about genetics during that time? Why Arnold was Arnold and though people copied him nobody was close to him during that time? Who talked about the difference between localized recovery and systemic recovery? In fact, who talked about the importance of recovery at all or even the idea of over training. What about the weak links like biceps when training lats and triceps when training chest and how the principle of pre-exhaustion can circumvent that?
He even was the first to dismiss the idea of "reforming" or "shaping" your muscles by certain exercises like trying to do concentration curls for a "peak" or Scott curls for your "lower" biceps. That muscle shape was genetically predetermined and no matter how many incline presses you do you're never going to get Franco's armour plated upper chest.

You are very, very wrong about Mike Mentzer not having a legacy. His impact was great and will continue to be.

Please retract your statement about his mustache being "grotesque." This is now my second request. Don't make you dismiss you ala gh15.

Agreed

[Ruffneck]

The only legacy Mike left was his whiny voice....Yes, the Jays and the Lees certainly picked up on this unfortunate characteristic!

Bottom line, Mike is just another dead bodybuilder. 

He tortured his mind and body through the use of steroids, alcohol and cocaine. And what did he become as a result of this abuse?  A rambling, incoherent lunatic.

Yes, it was kind of sad to see how quickly Mike receded; after he stopped injecting the roids. 

In actual fact, within a few short months his arms looked like spaghetti and his chest became sunken.

The lesson here is; live clean, train clean and be your own person. 

Drugs are for the weak minded and the insecure.....  Mike certainly proved this to be the case!

I thought his drug of choice was speed?

[sean]

this thread is entirely HOMOSEXUAL

[tbombz]

just imagine what he woulda looked liek without the coke, meth, low volume trianing, and low calorie low protein diet... dude woulda been EVEN MORE amazing..

[New Hank Wood]

Mike is just another fraud...a stealer of ideas and concepts.

He made wild claims, yet was never able to back them up with science.

Take away the drugs and Mike was nothing.  It was the steroids that provided a false reality for Mike.

This is evidenced by his ridiculous lifting-regime.  Basically, all he achieved from this was a destroyed vertebrae and major joint problems.

Similar to every other delusional roider, when the needles stop, the body deflates!  And this was clearly the case with this irrational-man-of the-junk!

At the end of day, happiness can be measured in health and longevity.  Mike failed in both of these areas...no surprises there!

Yes, Mike died and unhealthy man.  

He slipped into the abyss with no 'real friends'.  People just tolerated this raving lunatic....now, that is a true tragedy!

[WillGrant]

just imagine what he woulda looked liek without the coke, meth, low volume trianing, and low calorie low protein diet... dude woulda been EVEN MORE amazing..

Newsflashh..mike never actualy followed the shit he talked about..

He was seen once doing a chest work out by a quite well known journo from MM.

He was seen to do 4 exercises for his chest.

Example.
Bench press.set 1 10 -12 reps
                 set 2 8-10 reps
                 set 3 6-8 reps
                 set 4 4-6 reps with 2 forced and a negative rep.


He did this on all 4 exercises..

After his work out the journo approached him  and asked if he had given up on HD training and had gone back to traditional bodybuilding pyramid training..
Mike said:Rubbish , that was HD at its best , its only the last set that counted as the proceeding sets were warm ups and he was adament he had only done 4 sets total..

Even though he worked hard on all lead up sets.
The journo was astonished as he had just seen mentzer do 16 work sets but mentzer claimed to have only done 4.  

[tbombz]

Newsflashh..mike never actualy followed the shit he talked about..

He was seen once doing a chest work out by a quite well known journo from MM.

He was seen to do 4 exercises for his chest.

Example.
Bench press.set 1 10 -12 reps
                 set 2 8-10 reps
                 set 3 6-8 reps
                 set 4 4-6 reps with 2 forced and a negative rep.


He did this on all 4 exercises..

After his work out the journo approached him  and asked if he had given up on HD training and had gone back to traditional bodybuilding pyramid training..
Mike said:Rubbish , that was HD at its best , its only the last set that counted as the proceeding sets were warm ups and he was adament he had only done 4 sets total..

Even though he worked hard on all lead up sets.
The journo was astonished as he had just seen mentzer do 16 work sets but mentzer claimed to have only done 4.  

maybe they only THOUGHT he was workin hard on his warm ups..   i dont know.. i traned with a guy who was taught hd by mentzer and he swears by hd  and thats the way he trained exactly and he always said that the warmup sets were a joke and they were just there to get a feel for the weight and let the muscles know what was going on..

[dyslexic]

He instructed his clientele of naive retards to 'lift heavy'. And they did, and they got nowhere (just injured) with his stolen-bullshit-training-concepts.

So, your'e saying there is also someone else to blame?