Dorian had better arms than coleman

[sculpture]

You keep posting off year shots that prove zero , I know anatomy as well , you don't know how to be honest or accurate out of fear

Is it just me or when nd posts pics like these they do nothing to support his argument?

They're meant to be "good" pics but just aren't.

Yates has some of the ugliest lines in his triceps ever seen on stage

You can possibly claim they're better than say levrones in terms of size and shape

[Hulkster]

Is it just me or when nd posts pics like these they do nothing to support his argument?

this is true of pretty much any ND post

thats why he posts so many quotes/opinions all the time.

he runs from visual evidence because it seldom backs up what he claims in his posts.

this is the cornerstone of the ND dogma - avoid the visuals because they don't back up what he says..

see the truce thread for thousands of posts illustrating this sad fact.

[Mr.1derful]

Is it just me or when nd posts pics like these they do nothing to support his argument?

They're meant to be "good" pics but just aren't.

Yates has some of the ugliest lines in his triceps ever seen on stage

You can possibly claim they're better than say levrones in terms of size and shape

Yes, it's just you.  Hope this helps. 

[ASJChaotic]

Is it just me or when nd posts pics like these they do nothing to support his argument?

They're meant to be "good" pics but just aren't.

Yates has some of the ugliest lines in his triceps ever seen on stage

You can possibly claim they're better than say levrones in terms of size and shape

it's just you and ND makes an arguement 100 times better than hulkster.
hope this helps.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yup.

why is this thread in existance again?

Ha ha ha ha pathetic excuse of a photoshopped side triceps shot

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


6. Side Triceps (see Figure 6)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose so as
to show the “better” arm. He will stand with his left or
right side towards the judges and will place both arms
behind his back, either linking his fingers or grasping the
front arm by the wrist with his rear hand. The leg nearest
the judges will be bent at the knee and the foot will rest
flat on the floor. The competitor will exert pressure
against his front arm, thereby causing the triceps muscle
to contract. He will also raise the chest and contract the
abdominal muscles as well as the thigh and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the triceps muscles, and
conclude with the head-to-foot examination. In this pose,
the judge will be able to survey the thigh and calf muscles
in profile, which will help in grading their comparative
development more accurately.

notice how they say calf muscle? more than once

[NarcissisticDeity]

Is it just me or when nd posts pics like these they do nothing to support his argument?

They're meant to be "good" pics but just aren't.

Yates has some of the ugliest lines in his triceps ever seen on stage

You can possibly claim they're better than say levrones in terms of size and shape

The pose genius , the entire pose . who has the better side triceps pose? Dorian does. he's Kevin getting destroyed in the side triceps POSE

[sculpture]

The pose genius , the entire pose . who has the better side triceps pose? Dorian does.

Ah ah nd, ah ah.

Your claim is best tricep.

So stop running from one argument and claim to another.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ah ah nd, ah ah.

Your claim is best tricep.

So stop running from one argument and claim to another.

Better triceps than Coleman absolutely better side triceps than Levrone absolutely any other questions?

[ASJChaotic]

Better triceps than Coleman absolutely better side triceps than Levrone absolutely any other questions?

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[mesmorph78]

dont know what pic your looking at but
levrone is murdering dorian in that pose....
blue murder

[NarcissisticDeity]

I find it funny you would use a poll "you & the rest of your fellow goons know" that was rigged so yates gained close to 300 votes overnight for each year. This was already proven last year that team doughbuy cheated. LOL

Just read the comments in the thread.

Here is a screencap that was taken the same day............

Rigged? lmfao you can only vote once how is it rigged? and what about all the other polls are they fake too because they favor Dorian? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

dont know what pic your looking at but
levrone is murdering dorian in that pose....
blue murder

lmfao sure he is

is he carrying more muscular bulk than Dorian? NO is he harder & drier than Dorian? NO does he have better balance & proportion than Dorian? NO

all part of the criteria Dorian is leaving Kevin for dead in that pic the fact you can't see it is indicative of your ignorance on how bodybuilding contests are judged

[ASJChaotic]

LOL

Kevin has bigger shoulders, arms, traps, chest, legs and a smaller waist, better lines, better abs and obliques
common ND hahahahahahahaha
blockyness does not equal beating someone in a pose

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL

Kevin has bigger shoulders, arms, traps, chest, legs and a smaller waist, better lines, better abs and obliques
common ND hahahahahahahaha
blockyness does not equal beating someone in a pose

Please refer to how contests are judged

When assessing a competitor’s physique, a judge should follow a
routine procedure which will allow a comprehensive assessment of
the physique as a whole. During the comparisons of the
compulsory poses, the judge should first look at the primary
muscle group being displayed. The judge should then survey the
whole physique, starting from the head, and looking at every part
of the physique in a downward sequence, beginning with general
impressions, and looking for muscular bulk, balanced
development, muscular density and definition. The downward
survey should take in the head, neck, shoulders, chest, all of the
arm muscles, front of the trunk for pectorals, pec-delt tie-in,
abdominals, waist, thighs, legs, calves and feet. The same
procedure for back poses will also take in the upper and lower
trapezius, teres and infraspinatus, erector spinae, the gluteus
group, the leg biceps group at the back of the thighs, calves, and
feet. A detailed assessment of the various muscle groups should
be made during the comparisons, at which time it helps the judge
to compare muscle shape, density, and definition while still
bearing in mind the competitor’s overall balanced development.
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.

While Kevin does enjoy some advantages in this pose as a whole when all things are assessed Dorian is easily beating him

[Mr.1derful]

The pose genius , the entire pose . who has the better side triceps pose? Dorian does. he's Kevin getting destroyed in the side triceps POSE

Exactly!  Even if one were of the opinion that technically speaking, Levrone has superior triceps, what does it really matter if he is inferior in the actual side triceps pose?  Is there a consolation prize for losing the mandatory, but having better actual triceps?  Not that I am aware of.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Exactly!  Even if one were of the opinion that technically speaking, Levrone has superior triceps, what does it really matter if he is inferior in the actual side triceps pose?  Is there a consolation prize for loosing the mandatory, but being considered to have the better triceps?  Not that I am aware of.

That's what these morons can't seem to comprehend , all rounds are physique rounds which means ALL of the criteria is assessed at once , size , density , dryness , balance , proportion , posing , presentation , etc and while some guys meet parts of this criteria better than Yates NONE of them satisfied it ALL better than him

Kevin has better triceps , classic horseshoe , great side head , etc calves are just as important in this pose as triceps , are so is density and size and balance and dryness , does Kevin have a better side triceps shot? NO. it's the same way Dorian would beat Ronnie in a front double biceps shot despite not having better biceps

[mesmorph78]

levrone wins the pose... dorian legs look thicker
 but dorian looks like a barrel
a keg to be more presise
levrone winns abs shoulders chest traps
dorian gets the nod for legs
shame about the barell

[NarcissisticDeity]

levrone wins the pose... dorian legs look thicker
 but dorian looks like a barrel
a keg to be more presise
levrone winns abs shoulders chest traps
dorian gets the nod for legs
shame about the barell

Well once again your opinion contradicts the reality of the situation , Dorian won the contest with straight firsts in every single round .

[The Ugly]

That's what these morons can't seem to comprehend , all rounds are physique rounds which means ALL of the criteria is assessed at once , size , density , dryness , balance , proportion , posing , presentation , etc and while some guys meet parts of this criteria better than Yates NONE of them satisfied it ALL better than him

Kevin has better triceps , classic horseshoe , great side head , etc calves are just as important in this pose as triceps , are so is density and size and balance and dryness , does Kevin have a better side triceps shot? NO. it's the same way Dorian would beat Ronnie in a front double biceps shot despite not having better biceps

Do you ever wake up and say, 'Know what, fuck it, I just don't care enough today'?

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Do you ever wake up and say, 'Know what, fuck it, I just don't care enough today'?

 

Oh there been plenty of threads I never stepped foot in , I don't mind debating the sport it's what these boards are for , when I get bored with these guys I move on and unlike them I don't only post on this topic .

[Mr.1derful]

LOL

Kevin has bigger shoulders, arms, traps, chest, legs and a smaller waist, better lines, better abs and obliques
common ND hahahahahahahaha
blockyness does not equal beating someone in a pose

ND can't be too off base with such an assertion, being that Yates won with straight firsts in that contest.  His line of thinking, which I agree with myself, would seem to parallel that of the actual judges.  You know, the ones that hand out the Sandow. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND can't be too off base with such an assertion, being that Yates won with straight firsts in that contest.  His line of thinking, which I agree with myself, would seem to parallel that of the actual judges.  You know, the ones that hand out the Sandow. 

99% of these guys base who looks better in a pose by personal preference , what they THINK should win a pose , what looks better to them from an aesthetic point of view . I used to ...until I learned how contests are judged , they'll cherry-pick what parts they like what they think is more important , what doesn't matter to them and say " see he wins " that's not how it works

Classic example of pumpster's claim calves & forearms don't count  they ask for the calves in every single mandatory pose , in the criteria for the front double biceps pose they assess the forearms as well as the biceps , as well how proportionate one muscle is to the next , they assess who carries more muscular bulk , who is harder and drier who is the better technical poser , so while Ronnie & Levrone meet parts of this criteria better but when all things are judged they don't meet ALL of it better . that's how contests are judged and why Dorian dominated.

[sculpture]

ND can't be too off base with such an assertion, being that Yates won with straight firsts in that contest.  His line of thinking, which I agree with myself, would seem to parallel that of the actual judges.  You know, the ones that hand out the Sandow. 

Shit! There i was thinking the judges were never wrong

Congratulations that you were in line with the judges opinions

Whats your thoughts on how they judged ronnies victories i'm intrigued?

[The Ugly]

Oh there been plenty of threads I never stepped foot in , I don't mind debating the sport it's what these boards are

Which reminds me, who wins a debate, '93 Dorian or '03 Coleman?

Town hall style, let's say. Topic: Farm Subsidies.

Go!

[NarcissisticDeity]

Shit! There i was thinking the judges were never wrong

Congratulations that you were in line with the judges opinions

Whats your thoughts on how they judged ronnies victories i'm intrigued?

I don't buy fixed contests , Ronnie had a lot of close calls but I NEVER claimed they were fixed .