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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #200 on: December 15, 2008, 01:13:19 PM »
That physique is attainable naturally.

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #201 on: December 15, 2008, 01:17:50 PM »
That physique is attainable naturally.

Exactly. In our peak shapes, Mesmorph, Alexxx, Johnny Falcon, myself, DavidPaul, Adonis, Croatch and Whatevea along with a few other naturals whom I can't recall at this moment are more muscular. Some of the guys here make that guy sound like he's Dorian Yates ::)

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #202 on: December 15, 2008, 01:26:07 PM »
Put the chemist on the beach, carb up to be out of the ripped division, take a close pic and you have the same (or even buffer) effect

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #203 on: December 15, 2008, 01:28:05 PM »
Exactly. In our peak shapes, Mesmorph, Alexxx, Johnny Falcon, myself, DavidPaul, Adonis, Croatch and Whatevea along with a few other naturals whom I can't recall at this moment are more muscular. Some of the guys here make that guy sound like he's Dorian Yates ::)

its being lean and muscular that is hard to achieve naturally
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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #204 on: December 15, 2008, 01:33:29 PM »
its being lean and muscular that is hard to achieve naturally

True, and I'm not saying anyone can do it easy. Just that it's not impossible like some of the guys here are claiming. It will take someone with good genetics around 10 years worth of consistent training and a dedicated approach, but it can be done and even surpassed.

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #205 on: December 15, 2008, 01:49:45 PM »
I am hoping to achieve something like this NATURALLY

Great chest, but nothijng screams "ROIDS" to me......

Am i being naive?


No, but you would have to have damn good genetics to do it. He's not a big guy. There is a kid in my gym who is natural and built like that, and he's probably 185lbs at 5'8" but he has the shape and low bodyfat as the guy in the pic. I have known a few like that, but not many.

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #206 on: December 15, 2008, 03:23:51 PM »
all the naturals on getbig that say they can achieve this naturally please feel free to post a pic and prove us all wrong  ::)

does anyone have the link on bb.com that details the drugs this guy took, his workouts, his before pics etc.?

Diff pic but i do have some size and relative leaness

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #207 on: December 15, 2008, 03:25:02 PM »
Diff pic but i do have some size and relative leaness
You certainly do. That's a pic to be proud of, Goudy.  ;)

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #208 on: December 15, 2008, 03:26:35 PM »
Cheers bud but  like i said hard to tell. Ill maybe take a pic on thurs and post it to compare

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #209 on: December 15, 2008, 03:27:17 PM »
I wasn't really trying to compare in those photos, just responding to the demand for a natural to post a pic. But in competition shape, I doubt the beach guy would beat me here.
I thought you had used Winny and Primo before that pic?

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #210 on: December 15, 2008, 03:39:09 PM »
I thought you had used Winny and Primo before that pic?
Wow, you have a good memory. I did mention in a previous post that I did one cycle before a show in 1986 which was a small amount of primo and winnie. That was the last time I ever used. It was about 8 months after that last photo I posted above. Here is the pic from that. You can see my legs are quite a bit bigger. 

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #211 on: December 15, 2008, 03:56:38 PM »
My old training partner was ripped to shit and he just started lifting when we met. He had a hyper fast metabolism..he already had serratus muscles and abs!! The only problem was he couldn't gain much size and lift too heavy.......I started to bury him in weights and he got discouraged and quit. :'(

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #212 on: December 15, 2008, 05:28:29 PM »
Mmm was Reading m.d today turns out michael lockett is Jamaican born went to the USA when he was 7 :)
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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #213 on: December 15, 2008, 06:05:19 PM »
Mmm was Reading m.d today turns out michael lockett is Jamaican born went to the USA when he was 7 :)
I'll put it this way. He's juiced to the gills...

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #214 on: December 15, 2008, 06:09:07 PM »
could be natural .. its all about genetics .. and muscle to bone size.. people always think I weigh more than i do cause i have small bones..so my muscles look bigger than they really are/ either way lots of quality training and dieting went into it ..

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #215 on: December 15, 2008, 06:40:04 PM »
To say this physique absolutely cannot be attained naturally would be false.  Now, to expound on that, maybe on out of every 1000 guys that goes to the gym can look like this naturally.  On top of that it would take years of dedication and proper nutrition, and as some of the posters have already pointed out, most people dont have this.  More than likely this guy is juicing, but that physique is attainable naturally with all the right things going your way....

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #216 on: December 15, 2008, 08:46:24 PM »
Wow, you have a good memory. I did mention in a previous post that I did one cycle before a show in 1986 which was a small amount of primo and winnie. That was the last time I ever used. It was about 8 months after that last photo I posted above. Here is the pic from that. You can see my legs are quite a bit bigger. 

Hahahaha the old 'i did only one cycle, and it was just a little primo and winni' lol.

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #217 on: December 15, 2008, 09:16:31 PM »



if any of you believe this is not achievable natural and you're a natural, you should stop lifting weights.
seriously, you're wasting your time, you have mentally caged yourselves knowing you can never achieve it.
you're going to the gym 5 days a week 1.5 hours, for 20 years just to never achieve that?
I know I can surpass that by miles.

hahahahahaha

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It's natural if you're short. Looks like each arm is two feet long.  ;D

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #218 on: December 16, 2008, 12:46:05 PM »
 ::) unbelievable that people are even arguing about this.

chemist you look good in those pics, but you have been exposed as a liar and a drug user :-\ also the guy on the beach is bigger than you.

goudy, you are a beast but the guy is also bigger than you muscle wise.
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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #219 on: December 16, 2008, 12:49:33 PM »
Did chemist claim to be drug free?

Looking good in 86 pic btw.

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #220 on: December 16, 2008, 12:57:46 PM »
::) unbelievable that people are even arguing about this.

chemist you look good in those pics, but you have been exposed as a liar and a drug user :-\ also the guy on the beach is bigger than you.

goudy, you are a beast but the guy is also bigger than you muscle wise.
Where have I been exposed as a liar? I've posted on here many times and have always said I did one small cycle before the 1986 Mr. west Palm. Any pictures before that show and the one's 10 years later, and the one from 3 weeks ago show me with no steroids. Not bragging because it's no big deal, but I don't lie about it and frankly..couldn't care less if anyone believes me or not. I posted the pic of me on the cycle and it's obvious I'm bigger there than in any of the other photos of myself.

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #221 on: December 16, 2008, 01:06:48 PM »
Chemist, where is the pic from 3 weeks ago?

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #223 on: December 16, 2008, 01:10:19 PM »
all the naturals on getbig that say they can achieve this naturally please feel free to post a pic and prove us all wrong  ::)

does anyone have the link on bb.com that details the drugs this guy took, his workouts, his before pics etc.?

I personally believe the aesthetics and better condition can be had, but I myself have never been that big. At the same height I'd guess that guy has about 20 pounds on me at 5'10. I've posted pics of myself enough and they can be found in the GB3 thread.

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Re: Am i naive in thinking THIS can be achieved DRUG FREE
« Reply #224 on: December 16, 2008, 01:12:22 PM »
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248796.0

big dude, all the way big dude...you look amazing for 46, i'd be happy to look like that right now...