any contest judges on here? please tell us who wins this pose

[ASJChaotic]

Kevin has the greatest triceps and shoulders of all time
his arms are bigger, shoulders are bigger, chest is bigger, legs are bigger
traps are bigger, and the waist is half the size of Dorian's, Kevin has better lines, obliques, abs
balance, proportion, no body can touch him in the size tricep pose.
ND you can't claim that Dorian wins

Judges, what's your socre

[EL Mariachi]

Dorian wins that pose, yes its true kevin looks better and has bigger triceps and delts. But how come dorian looks bigger then? Dorian looks more complete, is wider, better conditioned, kevin might have bigger arms but dorians still look bigger in that pic, dorian can pose the body better.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian wins that pose, yes its true kevin looks better and has bigger triceps and delts. But how come dorian looks bigger then? Dorian looks more complete, is wider, better conditioned, kevin might have bigger arms but dorians still look bigger in that pic, dorian can pose the body better.

Hey someone who gets it !!

[The Ugly]

Hey someone who gets it !!

But what if it were Ronnie Coleman against Yates, what then?

Just curious.

[NarcissisticDeity]

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


6. Side Triceps (see Figure 6)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose so as
to show the “better” arm. He will stand with his left or
right side towards the judges and will place both arms
behind his back, either linking his fingers or grasping the
front arm by the wrist with his rear hand. The leg nearest
the judges will be bent at the knee and the foot will rest
flat on the floor. The competitor will exert pressure
against his front arm, thereby causing the triceps muscle
to contract. He will also raise the chest and contract the
abdominal muscles as well as the thigh and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the triceps muscles, and
conclude with the head-to-foot examination. In this pose,
the judge will be able to survey the thigh and calf muscles.
in profile, which will help in grading their comparative
development more accurately.

Notice the use the word calf muscles twice?   they do a ' head to foot examination ' which included forearms as well , now couple that with the fact all rounds are physique rounds , which means that they also look for who carries the most muscular bulk , who has better density , who is drier , who is better balanced , who has better proportion , posing & presentation , EVERYTHING is assessed at ONCE

while Kevin may meet part of the criteria better he doesn't meet ALL of it better which is exactly why he's being beat soundly.

[affeman]

Both look great, but Kevin looses this one to Yates.

But he takes this one, hands down.

[ASJChaotic]

Dorian wins that pose, yes its true kevin looks better and has bigger triceps and delts. But how come dorian looks bigger then? Dorian looks more complete, is wider, better conditioned, kevin might have bigger arms but dorians still look bigger in that pic, dorian can pose the body better.

are you or ND contest judges?
either one of you?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Both look great, but Kevin looses this one to Yates.

But he takes this one, hands down.

Dorian would have still been bigger , harder , drier , better balanced and more complete , Dorian wins again

[NarcissisticDeity]

are you or ND contest judges?
either one of you?

Nope ! I was exactly like you. back in 1993 I was dumbfounded how Dorian Yates beat Flex Wheeler I couldn't understand how this could have happened , etc , etc , etc

then I learned how contests are judged and then I realized I was wrong like 99% of the people on this board .

[EL Mariachi]

are you or ND contest judges?
either one of you?

then dont ask questions, no ifbb judges post here.

[The Ugly]

Dorian would have still been bigger , harder , drier , better balanced and more complete , Dorian wins again

What if universes collided and Yates went against Yates?









Hold on, though.











That's right, two Colemans, too.

[Viking11]

Dorian is bigger overall, his chest/back thickness is better than Kevins and his legs (everyone nowadays seems to forget legs include calves). Kevin has the better arms  and delts sizewise, but they lack density  and hardness when compared to Yates (maybe because he only trained half the year?). Dorians forearms are way better, too. Gotta give it to Yates.

[The GodFather]

You do know BB Judges like a little cock sucking before shows Don't you.Now why ask them???

[Relentless]

Nope ! I was exactly like you. back in 1993 I was dumbfounded how Dorian Yates beat Flex Wheeler I couldn't understand how this could have happened , etc , etc , etc

then I learned how contests are judged and then I realized I was wrong like 99% of the people on this board .

You learned something you were not supposed to, ND.

[alnassak]

Dorian would have still been bigger , harder , drier , better balanced and more complete , Dorian wins again

what was that..? 

[Relentless]

Dorian's 6 wins were a farce and a black eye for bodybuilding.

[alnassak]

Dorian's 6 wins were a farce and a black eye for bodybuilding.

and Ronnie's too

he only deserved 99 and 03 the other are gifts just like Jay's 07 

kevnin
Shawn
Flex
Victor Martinez
=
the real Olympians .

[marcus]

Kevin=esiclene. Dorian wins.

[240 is Back]

all debate aside, i'm glad they've somewhat eliminated the gifts and the dynasties.

The best bodybuilder winning is a good thing.  They can't just give it to the same guy every year and publish the photos they want anymore. 

[TechnoViking]

Dorian had the physique of granite and one that was trained 12 months out of the year....

Kevin's physique was pretty 6 month out of the year and the other 6, he was sucking cokc for crack...

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian's 6 wins were a farce and a black eye for bodybuilding.

ha ha ha talk about a blanket statement .

[bigdumbbell]

they're both short and very unnatural looking

[NarcissisticDeity]

this really shows how good yates was.. standing next to one of *thee* best of all time... he not only holds his own but dominates.
 
in his prime the guy really was something.

Shhhhhhh don't say that , some people get very sensitive when you type Dorian is better

[Sam]

this really shows how good yates was.. standing next to one of *thee* best of all time... he not only holds his own but dominates.
 
in his prime the guy really was something.

That is the truth

[England_1]

It's too bad they cut that shot off. Dorian's legs really dwarf Kevin's overall.

Hopefully ND can post the 94 GP shot of dorian, kevin, and dillet hitting side tri