Bodybuilding is not a sport.

[J Grey]

Wow...quite the intelligent comeback. Haven't heard that "your mother" since 10th grade......


No, Nascar is NOT a sport. No athleticism required. The car does all the work. The hillbillies drive and yes, that requires skill, but not athletic ability.

you know I was joking with the mother thing haha ..infidel 

Nascar is not a sport IMO

but look, apparently it is

http://sports.aol.com/nascar

[chaos]

By your definition, what is a schmoe?

Someone who admires another man in a thong at beauty pageants.

watch your mouth infidel. 

Settle down carpet kneeler.

[GoneAway]

Okay, we've established it doesn't require athleticism. At best its a pageant, even then, it may be more of a WWE/WWF type of thing (without the athleticism and personalities) in that it's somewhat scripted. In comp. bbing, the best man doesn't always win (just like WWE), or skating...et cetera.

There's nothing about comp. bbing where one as spectator can say, hey, that dude just scored. Not Touchdowns, no 3 pointers, no homers, no nothing. It's all subjective. It all comes down to what the muscle worshiper in the judges' table likes. How the fuck is that a sport?

What makes it a sport?

It's a subjective sport, like the many forms of gymnastics, synchronised swimming, diving, and many others. Yes, you would call those sports. It shouldn't be any different than BBing.

The fact that you see even the judges of the contest as schmoes is part of the reason why you fail to classify it as a subjective sport. You're only focused on the muscle-worshipping/G4P side, which blurs your vision of the whole picture. You also have a very narrow-minded view of what's considered a sport.

[gordiano]

The endless iron, the cardio, and an ocean of piss.

Are you being serious? Or joking?

Hmmm...anyone who knows anything about bbing knows these guys do not do actual cardio. Walking on a fucking treadmill at 2 miles an hour is not cardio. Fat people can do that. Athletes do real cardio regimens. Bbers do not.

It's funny that these lazy assholes will say shit like " I don't wanna burn off too much muscle" as the reason why they half ass cardio. These jokers are on so much shit, like it really makes a difference.  Just lazy.

As far as the lifting is concerned, shit, lots of fat folks lift. Shit, old people lift too. Look at guys like Dillet and Flex...zero fucking intensity....thank goodness for drugs.

[chaos]

It's a subjective sport, like the many forms of gymnastics, synchronised swimming, diving, and many others. Yes, you would call those sports. It shouldn't be any different than BBing.

The fact that you see even the judges of the contest as schmoes is part of the reason why you fail to classify it as a subjective sport. You're only focused on the muscle-worshipping/G4P side, which blurs your vision of the whole picture. You also have a very narrow-minded view of what's considered a sport.

Not a sport.

[J Grey]

Not a sport.

go have sex with cheese infidel 

[gordiano]

It's a subjective sport, like the many forms of gymnastics, synchronised swimming, diving, and many others. Yes, you would call those sports. It shouldn't be any different than BBing.

The fact that you see even the judges of the contest as schmoes is part of the reason why you fail to classify it as a subjective sport. You're only focused on the muscle-worshipping/G4P side, which blurs your vision of the whole picture. You also have a very narrow-minded view of what's considered a sport.

Newsflash, oiling up, posing for a crowd of men is gay! I didn't make it gay, the people who do it and admire it (whatever their reason) made it gay.

Answer me this; what's the difference between a strip show and a bbing contest?

Strippers      comp. bbers

Train? check         Train? check

Tan? Check           Tan? Check

Drugs? check        Drugs? check

Oil up? Check       Oil up? Check

Pose and dance    Pose and dance for 
for crowd of         crowd of schmoes? Yep.
admirers? Yep.

Poses for tips          Poses for cash (what little money there is) and trophies

Matter of fact....why do so many competitive bbers moon lite as strippers. Guess what, it's not much of a stretch now is it?

[gordiano]

It's a subjective sport, like the many forms of gymnastics, synchronised swimming, diving, and many others. Yes, you would call those sports. It shouldn't be any different than BBing.

The fact that you see even the judges of the contest as schmoes is part of the reason why you fail to classify it as a subjective sport. You're only focused on the muscle-worshipping/G4P side, which blurs your vision of the whole picture. You also have a very narrow-minded view of what's considered a sport.

BTW, the reason those you mentioned would be called sports is that THEY REQUIRE ATHLETIC ABILITY. Not something ANYONE COULD DO. Once again, comp. bbing does NOT require athletic ability.

Please, do not compare gymnasts or swimmers to bbers......

[chaos]

go have sex with cheese infidel 

I piss on your flag and shit on your prophet.

[J Grey]

I piss on your flag and shit on your prophet.

I'm not a muslim you stupid infidel, maybe you should look up the meaning of the word.

[chaos]

I'm not a muslim you stupid infidel, maybe you should look up the meaning of the word.

Who said anything about muslims, retard.

[J Grey]

Who said anything about muslims, retard.

what flag and prophet are you talking about retarded infidel?

[chaos]

what flag and prophet are you talking about retarded infidel?

The one tattooed across your mothers back.

[J Grey]

The one tattooed across your mothers back.

you make no sense infidel, you have no god, you're worthless.

[gordiano]

Pipe down piss drinker.

 



Again, for those of you who are slow:


Comp bbing is:

A hobby, a competition, a pageant, an exhibition, an endeavor....but not as sport.

[chaos]

Again, for those of you who are slow:


Comp bbing is:

A hobby, a competition, a pageant, an exhibition, an endeavor....but not as sport.

Quoted for blatant truth.

[GoneAway]

what's the difference between a strip show and a bbing contest?

Stripping is for sexual gratification. BBing is to assess who has the most balanced physique in terms of a set judging criteria. Some in the crowd gain sexual gratification from watching, but that's not the essence of it.

BTW, the reason those you mentioned would be called sports is that THEY REQUIRE ATHLETIC ABILITY. Not something ANYONE COULD DO. Once again, comp. bbing does NOT require athletic ability.

The athletic ability required in BBing is on the physiques themselves. How it looks from a number of angles takes the ability of the BBer to show off the physique and build it up to that point. Some are more blessed with this ability (e.g Flex Wheeler), as in all sports. Others have to train harder in order to give them a better chance at winning the show. If anyone can win a BBing show, why don't you get up there and become the next Mr. Olympia?

[chaos]

Will never be a sport.

[gordiano]

Stripping is for sexual gratification. BBing is to assess who has the most balanced physique in terms of a set judging criteria. Some in the crowd gain sexual gratification from watching, but that's not the essence of it.

The athletic ability required in BBing is on the physiques themselves. How it looks from a number of angles takes the ability of the BBer to show off the physique and build it up to that point. Some are more blessed with this ability (e.g Flex Wheeler), as in all sports. Others have to train harder in order to give them a better chance at winning the show. If anyone can win a BBing show, why don't you get up there and become the next Mr. Olympia?

Say what? That doesn't make sense. So the athletic ability in the Miss America is in the physiques itself?

Flex may have been blessed with genetics (for bbing), but that's not athletic ability. Even if he had athletic ability, he sure as hell wasn't using it during his competitive days...

I never said ANYONE can win a show. Show me where I said that...please. Even if anyone could (for the sake of argument) win a show, it's not something I CARE to do.

[Meso_z]

Say what? That doesn't make sense. So the athletic ability in the Miss America is in the physiques itself?

Flex may have been blessed with genetics (for bbing), but that's not athletic ability. Even if he had athletic ability, he sure as hell wasn't using it during his competitive days...

I never said ANYONE can win a show. Show me where I said that...please. Even if anyone could (for the sake of argument) win a show, it's not something I CARE to do.

stfu. 

[gordiano]

stfu. 

I'm sorry, who the fuck are you again? You've been following me around lately....nice to have fans...

[GoneAway]

Say what? That doesn't make sense. So the athletic ability in the Miss America is in the physiques itself?

Flex may have been blessed with genetics (for bbing), but that's not athletic ability. Even if he had athletic ability, he sure as hell wasn't using it during his competitive days...

I never said ANYONE can win a show. Show me where I said that...please. Even if anyone could (for the sake of argument) win a show, it's not something I CARE to do.

The athletic ability is the ability to acquire a physique (e.g. symmetry, proportion, mass etc) that is good enough to win. In theory, those with bad athletic ability are the guys who get last place, because their athletic ability (physique) is poor.

You said getting up on stage and even pacing 17 out of 18 competitors is something "anyone could do." The fact that these guys even made it to pro status proves comp. BBing is not something anyone can do.

[chaos]

Will never be a sport, pageant followers.

[body88]

The athletic ability is the ability to acquire a physique (e.g. symmetry, proportion, mass etc) that is good enough to win. In theory, those with bad athletic ability are the guys who get last place, because their athletic ability (physique) is poor.

You said getting up on stage and even pacing 17 out of 18 competitors is something "anyone could do." The fact that these guys even made it to pro status proves comp. BBing is not something anyone can do.

They same can be said for contestants of a beauty pageant.  Not every women can get the body it takes to place in those shows.  BB is a beauty pageant that has replaced the beauty with freaky. Symmetry, proportion and mass have to do with genetics and drugs, not athletic ability. 

Athletic ability has to do with speed, quickness, hand eye coordination and stamina.  Pro NFL players train with weights very hard each and every week, then they go out and compete in a full contact athletic competition on Sundays.  That's an athlete.  Same goes for soccer players and basketball players.

Standing around and flexing does not make you an athlete.  You could be the most unathletic dumbass and be a top pro if you do the right drugs, and you have the right genetics.  The same cannot be said for a single REAL pro sport.

[drmarkp]

Conventional beauty pageants are about 70% sport (physical skill competition), if that makes any sense. The other 30% is non-physical skill and therefore non-sport. Therefore, we tend to only consider those competitions which depend 100% SOLELY on the performance of the physical skill to win them.

So, it could be argued that although bodybuilding involves physical skill it may not qualify exactly as a sport IF we can prove that winning it does not depend 100% on the physical skill (posing) performance. Apparently this is what you're getting at, and it's probably true...

Does it take more skill for an Olympian to run the 100 yard dash than it does a top bodybuilder to exhibit the end result of theyr'e labor on stage? what then defines the sprinter as being more of an athlete than the bodybuilder? Wouldn't at least the same amount of work, preparation, and sacrifice be involved in either case?