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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #700 on: December 27, 2008, 05:57:33 PM »
How come the people who seem to hate bodybuilding are always the ones with well over 10 000 on a bodybuilding forum?
gordiano, goatboy, donkeykong and body88 etc. etc.

bitter much?
i wouldn't throw Gordiano in with that riff raff, i think gordy would admit that he actually likes bodybuilding and loves lifting but those other three clowns ARE ABSOLUTELY OBSESSED with bodybuilding and hate themselves for it for some reason.

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #701 on: December 27, 2008, 06:00:59 PM »
i wouldn't throw Gordiano in with that riff raff, i think gordy would admit that he actually likes bodybuilding and loves lifting but those other three clowns ARE ABSOLUTELY OBSESSED with bodybuilding and hate themselves for it for some reason.

Agreed...Gordiano doesn't hate BB....but he is in the closet something fierce

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #702 on: December 27, 2008, 06:08:52 PM »
Nothing you mention is a "fact"...the point that you seem it is, automatically takes you out of an educated opinion as you've shown your ignorance...talking in absolutes makes your argument ignorant


Are you saying that a pro show is not a pageant?  My argument is far from ignorant (you refuse to address logical points I make in my posts), and instead spin your wheels talking out of your ass.  You ignore my rebuttal to your false accusation of me being ignorant to competitive bb.  Years ago I posted about a good friend of mine who was competing in the nationals.  I am very familiar with bb, and you have no clue what you are talking about.

You're not a pro athlete.  I respect what you do, but your not a true pro athlete.

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #703 on: December 27, 2008, 06:12:06 PM »


Not sure what else you're talking about, as I've been BBing my whole life at the local level, teenage, national, and pro level...and have never gotten on stage in my underwear for old guys...
OK. ;)
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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #704 on: December 27, 2008, 06:13:17 PM »

Are you saying that a pro show is not a pageant?  My argument is far from ignorant (you refuse to address logical points I make in my posts), and instead spin your wheels talking out of your ass.  You ignore my rebuttal to your false accusation of me being ignorant to competitive bb.  Years ago I posted about a good friend of mine who was competing in the nationals.  I am very familiar with bb, and you have no clue what you are talking about.

No, bodybuilding is not a pageant....a pageant is a pageant, which is why "competition" and "pageant" are two different words, and describe two different things

You've made no ogical points in your argument, which is why there has been no rebuttle needed....when you make one, I'll be happy to oblige.

Thats your "expertise"? an alleged "friend" at the Nationals? Does he consider BB a sport?

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #705 on: December 27, 2008, 06:13:30 PM »
i wouldn't throw Gordiano in with that riff raff, i think gordy would admit that he actually likes bodybuilding and loves lifting but those other three clowns ARE ABSOLUTELY OBSESSED with bodybuilding and hate themselves for it for some reason.
I don't hate myself at all, but I also don't see bbing as a sport. It's a pageant, judged on looks, just like the Miss America pageant. Why can't anyone admit that?
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« Reply #706 on: December 27, 2008, 06:14:25 PM »
I don't hate myself at all, but I also don't see bbing as a sport. It's a pageant, judged on looks, just like the Miss America pageant. Why can't anyone admit that?
i wasn't talking about you, only goatboy, donkey kong and body88.

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #707 on: December 27, 2008, 06:15:25 PM »
i wasn't talking about you, only goatboy, donkey kong and body88.
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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #708 on: December 27, 2008, 06:15:25 PM »
i wouldn't throw Gordiano in with that riff raff, i think gordy would admit that he actually likes bodybuilding and loves lifting but those other three clowns ARE ABSOLUTELY OBSESSED with bodybuilding and hate themselves for it for some reason.

Thank you. You're right. I love bbing, I bust my ass, I diet, et cetera. I just don't care for competitive side of it, and I don't believe it's a sport. If it makes anyone feel better, for whatever it is worth, I outwork those competitive bbers in my gym (and no, I'm NOTHING special). I respect ANYONE who busts their ass to improve themselves, drugs or not (even though I don't use them). I just happen to have an opinion, that I can guarantee that most people who are able to reason, would agree with. 

We take a poll, and we lay out the criteria for what a sport is, as well as what athletes are, and reality is, bbing and comp. bbers are neither. That's reality, deal with it.

You know what else is reality? Bbing  pageants are for gay men. Deal with it, no matter how in denial you may be about it, that's just the way it is. It's so obvious, I don't know how I didn't figure it out sooner.
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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #709 on: December 27, 2008, 06:16:34 PM »
I don't hate myself at all, but I also don't see bbing as a sport. It's a pageant, judged on looks, just like the Miss America pageant. Why can't anyone admit that?

Then why do you want to moderate the positive board? you seem to love bodybuilding on there and tell Tamali and Derek Anthony that they are amazing.

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #710 on: December 27, 2008, 06:19:10 PM »
...I respect ANYONE who busts their ass to improve themselves, drugs or not (even though I don't use them). I just happen to have an opinion, that I can guarantee that most people who are able to reason, would agree with. 

We take a poll, and we lay out the criteria for what a sport is, as well as what athletes are, and reality is, bbing and comp. bbers are neither. That's reality, deal with it.

You know what else is reality? Bbing  pageants are for gay men. Deal with it, no matter how in denial you may be about it, that's just the way it is. It's so obvious, I don't know how I didn't figure it out sooner.
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Would explain the shawn ray mascara avatar.

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #711 on: December 27, 2008, 06:19:42 PM »
Agreed...Gordiano doesn't hate BB....but he is in the closet something fierce

Well, I managed to stay off you mind for a couple of months.....you're making progress.


Let's try this again, so that even an IFBB Pro can understand it:

You pose and have posed for crowds for men, since your teenage years......in your tiny trunks. Yet you CALL me gay? You're a career stripper for men, and you call me gay?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The irony is so fucking sweet in this.....
HAHA, RON.....

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #712 on: December 27, 2008, 06:20:26 PM »
Here, hopefully, you can educate yourself




pag⋅eant   /ˈpædʒənt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation  [paj-uhnt] Show IPA Pronunciation  

–noun 1. an elaborate public spectacle illustrative of the history of a place, institution, or the like, often given in dramatic form or as a procession of colorful floats.
2. a costumed procession, masque, allegorical tableau, or the like forming part of public or social festivities.
3. a show or exhibition, esp. one consisting of a succession of participants or events: a beauty pageant.  

Origin:
1350–1400; ME pagyn, pagaunt, pagand < AL pāgina a stage for plays, scene, platform, perh. special use of L pāgina page 1






sport   /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation  [spawrt, spohrt] Show IPA Pronunciation  

–noun 1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.




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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #713 on: December 27, 2008, 06:22:26 PM »
Here, hopefully, you can educate yourself




pag⋅eant   /ˈpædʒənt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation  [paj-uhnt] Show IPA Pronunciation  

–noun 1. an elaborate public spectacle illustrative of the history of a place, institution, or the like, often given in dramatic form or as a procession of colorful floats.
2. a costumed procession, masque, allegorical tableau, or the like forming part of public or social festivities.
3. a show or exhibition, esp. one consisting of a succession of participants or events: a beauty pageant.  

Origin:
1350–1400; ME pagyn, pagaunt, pagand < AL pāgina a stage for plays, scene, platform, perh. special use of L pāgina page 1






sport   /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation  [spawrt, spohrt] Show IPA Pronunciation  

–noun 1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.





I think you might have nailed it with number 3.  Isn't skill in bodybuilding just the talent portion/round?

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #714 on: December 27, 2008, 06:22:39 PM »
have to agree with Chick here, if you're going with the "according to Hoyle" or Webster's definition of what a pageant and a sport is, bodybuilding definitely qualifies as a sport.

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #715 on: December 27, 2008, 06:24:27 PM »
Who cares? What's the harm in thinking it's a sport. It's such a broad term, a lot of things could be considered one.

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #716 on: December 27, 2008, 06:24:33 PM »
Well, I managed to stay off you mind for a couple of months.....you're making progress.


Let's try this again, so that even an IFBB Pro can understand it:

You pose and have posed for crowds for men, since your teenage years......in your tiny trunks. Yet you CALL me gay? You're a career stripper for men, and you call me gay?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The irony is so fucking sweet in this.....


I'll try and explain this so even your closet-like, gay self can understand it...

I've never posed "for men", I've never been a "stripper"....I've posed in competition that had paying fans...men, women, and children


You by contrast, post on a B board on a daily basis, and 9 out of every 10 posts you make have some reference to homosexuals, being gay, or "oiled up men in thongs"...


Feel free anyone, to look up his posts to confirm

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #717 on: December 27, 2008, 06:25:05 PM »

3. a show or exhibition, esp. one consisting of a succession of participants or events: a beauty pageant. 




 A succession of men in underwear being judged on their beauty.

it's a muscle pageant. bob chick = hoisted by his own petard.

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #718 on: December 27, 2008, 06:25:50 PM »
No, bodybuilding is not a pageant....a pageant is a pageant, which is why "competition" and "pageant" are two different words, and describe two different things

You've made no ogical points in your argument, which is why there has been no rebuttle needed....when you make one, I'll be happy to oblige.

Thats your "expertise"? an alleged "friend" at the Nationals? Does he consider BB a sport?


Of course I have, read my post history in this thread.  BB is no more of a sport than deadline truckdriving, and since you ARE JUDGED ON YOUR LOOKS during a contest.....that makes it a pageant.  My friend is a former college football player, and in his opinion bb is a joke compared to football.  The reason he bodybuilds is because a knee injury forced him to stop playing a real sport.

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #719 on: December 27, 2008, 06:27:09 PM »

What "measures" are taken into account during football practice, and "accounted" in determining the winner?

They have a game, which has nothing to do with practice, etc...we have preperation...they play a game, we have a show....some sports have contact...some don't. Some have a combination of skill and presentation factored into the scoring...some have no debate like bowling.

As I said...you cannot lump all sports into the same criteria
None, of course, but it's not how well their practice went that determines the winner, it's how they play on game day.
Haven't you heard the Allen Iverson speech about practice?

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #720 on: December 27, 2008, 06:27:48 PM »

You by contrast, post on a B board on a daily basis, and 9 out of every 10 posts you make have some reference to homosexuals, being gay, or "oiled up men in thongs"...


Feel free anyone, to look up his posts to confirm

Oiled up men in thongs? that doesn't sound anything like gordino ;D

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #721 on: December 27, 2008, 06:28:05 PM »
None, of course, but it's not how well their practice went that determines the winner, it's how they play on game day.
Haven't you heard the Allen Iverson speech about practice?


Exactly.

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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #722 on: December 27, 2008, 06:28:23 PM »

I'll try and explain this so even your closet-like, gay self can understand it...

I've never posed "for men", I've never been a "stripper"....I've posed in competition that had paying fans...men, women, and children


You by contrast, post on a B board on a daily basis, and 9 out of every 10 posts you make have some reference to homosexuals, being gay, or "oiled up men in thongs"...


Feel free anyone, to look up his posts to confirm

HAHAHAHAHAHA, you're beyond reasoning. I can't say I blame you though...after all, who'd want to admit that they dedicated their lives to stripping for hire (oftentimes for free, like most IFBB pros).

Do I really need to into how a bbing show is so much like a stripper show? About the only difference is, you guys don't get tips!
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Re: Bodybuilding is not a sport.
« Reply #723 on: December 27, 2008, 06:31:40 PM »

Of course I have, read my post history in this thread.  BB is no more of a sport than deadline truckdriving, and since you ARE JUDGED ON YOUR LOOKS during a contest.....that makes it a pageant.  My friend is a former college football player, and in his opinion bb is a joke compared to football.  The reason he bodybuilds is because a knee injury forced him to stop playing a real sport.

You're not judged on your "looks"...you're judged on your physique, on symmetry and proportion, on muscle seperation and conditioning, on the ability to display the physique by way of mandatory poses as well as individual posing round.

Your friend is as big an idiot as you are...no one is comparing football to bodybuilding...two different SPORTS.

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« Reply #724 on: December 27, 2008, 06:34:04 PM »
You're not judged on your "looks"...you're judged on your physique, on symmetry and proportion, on muscle seperation and conditioning, on the ability to display the physique by way of mandatory poses as well as individual posing round.
Your friend is as big an idiot as you are...no one is comparing football to bodybuilding...two different SPORTS.


Now you're saying bb's are not judged on how they look,lolol.  How can a judge tell if you are the most ripped? You LOOK the most ripped, chick.  The only idiot here is you.