U.S. may double troop strength in Afghanistan

[Bindare_Dundat]

Up to 30,000 additional U.S. troops could be sent to Afghanistan next year, roughly doubling the number alreading there, military officials said Saturday. Some 20,000 of the additional personnel would be combat troops, said Col. Gregory Julian, spokesman for U.S. forces in Afghanistan.


Does moving troops from one part of the world and into another save us any money? Oh, I forgot it's irrelevant because this time we'll be invading the right place and we'll catch Osama Bin Laden for sure. 

[Hedgehog]

FFS, if anything, let UN handle the Afghanistan mess.

And then:


1. Pull out most troops.

2. Make some big cuts in the military budget to free up tax money.

3. Put that money into tax cuts, infrastructural projects and other things that can make the economy healthy again.

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

UNDER OBAMA WE SHOULD BE OUT OF IRAGQ SOON,,,,PEOPLE IN STATES WANT THAT,,NO SHOE FOR US,,

[bears]

FFS, if anything, let UN handle the Afghanistan mess.

the UN?  please excuse me while i wet myself from laughing.

[IFBBwannaB]

the UN?  please excuse me while i wet myself from laughing.

No shit, the UN can't control a couple of drug lords with AK47...they wouldn't last in Afghanistan 2 minutes.

[240 is Back]

the UN?  please excuse me while i wet myself from laughing.

we told the UN in 2001 that we didn't need their help in afghanistan.  (we caved later)

we told the UN in 2003 that we didn't need their help in iraq.

Looks like we had/are having sorta a rough time in those places, despite being as downright fucking awesome as our military is.  Maybe it woulda been better to use their help?  We can mock them, but let's be honest, an arab soldier would have a better chance on the streets of baghdad than an american - speak and look like the enemy - it would help.

[bears]

we told the UN in 2001 that we didn't need their help in afghanistan.  (we caved later)

we told the UN in 2003 that we didn't need their help in iraq.

Looks like we had/are having sorta a rough time in those places, despite being as downright fucking awesome as our military is.  Maybe it woulda been better to use their help?  We can mock them, but let's be honest, an arab soldier would have a better chance on the streets of baghdad than an american - speak and look like the enemy - it would help.

theyve also flat out denied help to us countless times.  it is not a secret that they are of no use to us.

[MuscleMcMannus]

I will bet anyone LOTS of money that as soon as the US presence in Iraq dwindles down Iraq is going to explode into violence.  Just watch.  This whole troop surge worked is all smoke and mirrors.  There are a lot of terrorists, insurgents just waiting for us to leave.  They are very patient. 

[240 is Back]

theyve also flat out denied help to us countless times.  it is not a secret that they are of no use to us.

so what was the reason we finally accepted their help in afghanistan? 

Oh, and why are we now negotiating with the scumbag taleban?  giving them a part in the new govt?  WTF matey?

[tonymctones]

I will bet anyone LOTS of money that as soon as the US presence in Iraq dwindles down Iraq is going to explode into violence.  Just watch.  This whole troop surge worked is all smoke and mirrors.  There are a lot of terrorists, insurgents just waiting for us to leave.  They are very patient. 

if im not mistaken we will still leave some troops behind at least for a while...patient? so they wait until the US soldiers leave to go back to market bombings, using mentally challenged ppl to suicide bomb public areas and thats patience? Sounds more like cowardice to me.

[headhuntersix]

I will bet anyone LOTS of money that as soon as the US presence in Iraq dwindles down Iraq is going to explode into violence.  Just watch.  This whole troop surge worked is all smoke and mirrors.  There are a lot of terrorists, insurgents just waiting for us to leave.  They are very patient. 

Based on ur vast military experience and multiple tours in Iraq right? Gimme a break. As u get ur news from the net or TV I'd say u have zero clue what ur talking about, as usual.

The UN is useless, they are incapable of doing anything.

[Slapper]

Based on ur vast military experience and multiple tours in Iraq right? Gimme a break. As u get ur news from the net or TV I'd say u have zero clue what ur talking about, as usual.

The UN is useless, they are incapable of doing anything.

Hey HH6, are YOU going to Afghanistan?

Since the UN cannot torture or kill innocent civilians... I just think you could do a lot better with them "sand níggas".

[MuscleMcMannus]

Based on ur vast military experience and multiple tours in Iraq right? Gimme a break. As u get ur news from the net or TV I'd say u have zero clue what ur talking about, as usual.

The UN is useless, they are incapable of doing anything.

haha and weren't you sent up the mountain to clean up trash Mr. Special Forces?  You don't need to be a military expert to know that as soon as we live Iraq the shitstorm of terrorists and insurgents will return.  Money can only buy so much time. 

[headhuntersix]

Muscles...u have no idea what ur talking about.  And yes u actually have to have some experience before ur opinion is worth anything...which u don't have so stick to whatever it is u do.

Slapper u realize I'm active duty military right. I got back from Afghanistan in 07', its about time to head back over.

[bears]

so what was the reason we finally accepted their help in afghanistan? 

Oh, and why are we now negotiating with the scumbag taleban?  giving them a part in the new govt?  WTF matey?

just because they lend resources at certain times does not make those resources of any great value to us.  france has given the United States aid in the past.  Do you think that they are a useful ally?

[headhuntersix]

The UN ride around in white pick-ups that remind me of, whats the word...oh yeah....targets. The French patrol largely around Kabul and while friendly, don't do a hell of alot. The Canadians, Dutch and Brits have all fought very hard, as well as the Aussies and Kiwi's. The Germans are useless. Their SOF forces have conducted no ops during their entire time in Afghanistan. French SOF were invloved in a fire fight and left two of our guys to die......NATO has proved fairly worthless and the UN is a joke. If u want to know why we're forced to be the World Police, thats the reason. The so-called all African UN forces working in various countries end up as thugs and rapists to all the refugees from the war torn countries there. Europe has become a bunch of worthless, whiny girls.

[shootfighter1]

Great so we can waste even more $ we don't have fighting in Afghanistan now.

[Hedgehog]

My point about letting the UN handling Afghanistan is obviously about saving budget dollars.

Instead of only having US troops there, the expenses would be divided between 10-15 different countries.

As far as the long term results of such an operation in comparison to a USA only led operation - is it so clear cut that it would be so much worse for the USA to go in there as one of many others?

[headhuntersix]

We're pretty much doing it alone anyway. Hedge...who else ought to go besides those I've mentioned. My point would be that all others are worthless.

[Hedgehog]

We're pretty much doing it alone anyway. Hedge...who else ought to go besides those I've mentioned. My point would be that all others are worthless.

I really don't have an answer.

But it seems like the military ops and wars of late has been rather costly for USA.

Hypothetical question: If USA said they would withdraw all of their main troops from the region, both Iraq and Afghanistan within the next six months, what would happen then do you think?

Is there any chance that a UN peace keeping force would work in keeping order in Afghanistan?

[a_joker10]

We're pretty much doing it alone anyway. Hedge...who else ought to go besides those I've mentioned. My point would be that all others are worthless.

Canada has been trying to get out of Kandahar for years but no one wants to replace them.

An American troop surge wouldn't be required if all of the NATO countries would fight and would rotate into all of the provinces.
I don't imagine that Canada, Britain or the Netherlands thought that they would be sticking out in the south for the duration of the conflict.

Still nothing will be resolved until Pakistan is dealt with and Afghanistan has a credible army.

I wish anyone fighting in Afghanistan good luck, this is a war we need to win.

[garebear]

Everybody quit typing. HH6 is the only person allowed to have an opinion. In fact, if we are talking about any war, HH6 should start the thread and noone else respond. Now logout of getbig immediately, whiny girls.

[IFBBwannaB]

Everybody quit typing. HH6 is the only person allowed to have an opinion. In fact, if we are talking about any war, HH6 should start the thread and noone else respond. Now logout of getbig immediately, whiny girls.

Weren't you supposed to get a new butt plug?

[windsor88]

Everybody quit typing. HH6 is the only person allowed to have an opinion. In fact, if we are talking about any war, HH6 should start the thread and noone else respond. Now logout of getbig immediately, whiny girls.

LOL.. No doubt.  The dude is a mess hall cook and thinks he is Rambo. 

[MuscleMcMannus]

LOL.. No doubt.  The dude is a mess hall cook and thinks he is Rambo. 

No he's responsible for cleaning up trash.  A mess hall cook actually is step above that.  LMAO!  What a schmoe.