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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #75 on: December 21, 2008, 12:58:10 AM »
Doing this exercise the way Ronnie Coleman does it, most people can use 25 to 50 more pounds then they normally do...Doing this exercise the way most people do it, the weight will drop significantly...

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #76 on: December 21, 2008, 01:44:44 AM »
some pros go light on it and some like tommi torvildsen use ridiculous weight on lateral raises, and at the end they all look the same and depends it all on genetics and drugs haha.

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #77 on: December 21, 2008, 06:15:32 AM »
The reason most normal people (ie. with a brain) use light weight on lateral raises is so you don't blow out your rotator cuffs,  had this happened to a few friends that went super heavy on lateral raises (over 60lbs. a side) and sure enough it happened to all 3  of them over time. Once you tear a rotator cuff you can't train upper body for a good 6 months, not to mention never being able to do heavy presses (chest and military) ever again.

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #78 on: December 21, 2008, 06:26:42 AM »
I never go over 15-20 lbs ...I did as much as 70's but I get more out of 15's

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #79 on: December 21, 2008, 06:27:34 AM »
The reason most normal people (ie. with a brain) use light weight on lateral raises is so you don't blow out your rotator cuffs,  had this happened to a few friends that went super heavy on lateral raises (over 60lbs. a side) and sure enough it happened to all 3  of them over time. Once you tear a rotator cuff you can't train upper body for a good 6 months, not to mention never being able to do heavy presses (chest and military) ever again.

mak that 11 months ;)

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #80 on: December 21, 2008, 07:16:50 AM »
side laterals (dumbells) is one exercise where the difference in used weight between "totally-strict form" and "cheated form" is very big.....

if i canīt hold the dumbell for a count of 2 Seconds in the contracted position, and not be able to lower it in controll it will work much more on the traps than the shoulder.....

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #81 on: December 21, 2008, 07:28:20 AM »
I generally superset them with Military on my last 3 sets.  So I dont go over 40 lbs...

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #82 on: December 21, 2008, 07:28:50 AM »
I generally superset them with Military onmy last 3 sets.  So I dont go over 40 lbs...

ohh im sure you do..

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #83 on: December 21, 2008, 07:39:29 AM »

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #84 on: December 21, 2008, 07:49:21 AM »

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #85 on: December 21, 2008, 07:55:35 AM »
whats going on?

Someone says FAG and you jump to attention?  LMAO! 

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #86 on: December 21, 2008, 07:56:36 AM »
whats going on?

don't worry big Mars, permabulker is just unhappy because a huge black man had rough sex with him last night.

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #87 on: December 21, 2008, 08:03:14 AM »
don't worry big Mars, permabulker is just unhappy because a huge black man had rough sex with him last night.

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #88 on: December 21, 2008, 08:05:34 AM »
mak that 11 months ;)

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #89 on: December 21, 2008, 08:16:27 AM »
for one arm side laterals i dont go past 60's
for two arm laterals which are stricter...50s and my delts are big round and have striations
side lateral are about technique not weight 99% of people cheat on these
so 60's tops
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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #90 on: December 21, 2008, 08:19:05 AM »
You have some good size on you Alex, I would say whatever it is you are doing it is working ;)
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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #91 on: December 21, 2008, 08:19:26 AM »
You have some good size on you Alex, I would say whatever it is you are doing it is working ;)

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #92 on: December 21, 2008, 08:54:30 AM »
How heavy is the easy part, just keep going up, warming up is the most important part. Wreck your shoulders and the pain won't even let you sleep at night. It cost me $280 a month to have my shoulders worked on. The doc used his hands to tear up the facia and muscle in my pec, arm, and shoulder, he was seperating the nerve from rubbing against the bone. The most brutal shit anyone could possibly feel but no surgery or shots and my shoulder is 100% good.

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #93 on: December 21, 2008, 11:37:54 AM »
I usually warm up with 35-40's and walk my way up to 65-75 for 6-8 reps.   

I rarelly see anyone go over 40... Tapoutters in the 20's... 

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Dunno if it's been stated in this thread.

But bracing yourself against an incline bench sometimes helps in order to get the focus on using the shoulders to lift the weight and not swinging it up.

Adjust the incline to close to 90 degrees.
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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #94 on: December 21, 2008, 11:40:33 AM »
Dunno if it's been stated in this thread.

But bracing yourself against an incline bench sometimes helps in order to get the focus on using the shoulders to lift the weight and not swinging it up.

Adjust the incline to close to 90 degrees.

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #95 on: December 21, 2008, 11:40:50 AM »
Dunno if it's been stated in this thread.

But bracing yourself against an incline bench sometimes helps in order to get the focus on using the shoulders to lift the weight and not swinging it up.

Adjust the incline to close to 90 degrees.
hahahaha nice one

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #96 on: December 21, 2008, 12:08:55 PM »
Alex and Fatpanda
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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #97 on: December 21, 2008, 12:12:46 PM »
hahahaha nice one

why is that funny? it's good advice

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #98 on: December 21, 2008, 12:22:05 PM »
why is that funny? it's good advice
you = very slow

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Re: How "heavy" is "heavy" for lateral raises?
« Reply #99 on: December 21, 2008, 12:23:17 PM »
you = very slow

you= very ugly gym rat who takes steroids, thinks he knows it all and likes ugly chunky black chicks