training and steroids

[jayfromeurope]

Hi,

Just curious How long and how often do u train while you're on steroids ?

Thanks

[jtsunami]

whatever you feel like is right amount for you

[4thAD]

Same as when your off!

[Dr Loomis]

Same as when your off!

Exactly

[Rimbaud]

Same as when your off!

Agreed.


Nothing pisses me off more then "cycle warriors".

[tbombz]

3 days on 1 day off. everything gets hit 2 X per week.


==

1= chest tris bis
2= quads hams calves
3= back shoulders
4=off
5= repeat day 1
6= repeat day 2
7= repeat day 3
8= repeat day 4
9= repeat day 1

etc etc etc

[tstmaniac]

3 days on 1 day off. everything gets hit 2 X per week.


==

1= chest tris bis
2= quads hams calves
3= back shoulders
4=off
5= repeat day 1
6= repeat day 2
7= repeat day 3
8= repeat day 4
9= repeat day 1

etc etc etc

You dont work your abs or traps?

[tbombz]

You dont work your abs or traps?

nah. my abs are distended naturally anyway, so i dont wanna thicken them up at all.  if i work out traps, they blow up an take over all my delt movements. when i dont train traps, they stay in proportion and my delts do all the work in upright rows, side laterals.

[io856]

nah. my abs are distended naturally anyway, so i dont wanna thicken them up at all.  if i work out traps, they blow up an take over all my delt movements. when i dont train traps, they stay in proportion and my delts do all the work in upright rows, side laterals.

I thought you said it is important to train abs if you want them to show up under stage lights

[tbombz]

I thought you said it is important to train abs if you want them to show up under stage lights

when im dieting for a show i will train them with heavy weight

i was refercning a guy i know whos abs look phenomenal in person, but i saw stage pics of him and you couldnt even see them. the guys never trains abs with weight, only does body weight or very light weight movements. high reps. abs ae cu, but no thickness. on stage his midesction is smooooth.

[Van_Bilderass]

nah. my abs are distended naturally anyway, so i dont wanna thicken them up at all. 

Thing is that abs don't really have the capacity to hypertrophy much. Think about it, even if you added a a couple of millimeters of thickness to them it wouldn't take away from your taper. Heavy side-bends and such I understand if you'd want to avoid. Training abs would actually reduce distension since it often means your transversus etc is weak. I know this personally since I haven't bothered training them much and have let my abs stretch over the years. My new years resolution is to start hitting abs hard.

[tbombz]

Thing is that abs don't really have the capacity to hypertrophy much. Think about it, even if you added a a couple of millimeters of thickness to them it wouldn't take away from your taper. Heavy side-bends and such I understand if you'd want to avoid. Training abs would actually reduce distension since it often means your transversus etc is weak. I know this personally since I haven't bothered training them much and have let my abs stretch over the years. My new years resolution is to start hitting abs hard.

hmmm   whats your favorite ab exercises and what day do you think i should add them in? (schedule above)

[Van_Bilderass]

hmmm   whats your favorite ab exercises and what day do you think i should add them in? (schedule above)

Well, like I said I haven't worked them enough. I only do a few sets of standing work here and there. Something like this:

But I don't have bodybuilding aspirations anymore so it's been more for assisting deadlift strength etc. I should do more of it though.

I don't think you have to worry about thickening the waist by training abs, especially if you do more traditional bb ab training, like crunches and leg raises. Maybe throw in some vacuums for the transversus if you want to prevent distension. Throw in ab work a couple of times a week or so, whenever you feel you can do them justice.

[jtsunami]

WOW van b is that you?  You look very thick and bearish.

jt

[Van_Bilderass]

WOW van b is that you?  You look very thick and bearish.

jt

LOL no that's not me. I think that's powerlifting guru Louie Simmons. His gym in any case.

[Vet]

LOL no that's not me. I think that's powerlifting guru Louie Simmons. His gym in any case.

LOL. Thats not Louie. 

[krazee]

Hi,

Just curious How long and how often do u train while you're on steroids ?

Thanks

What was the real meaning behind this question as I think this went over my head.

[jtsunami]

What was the real meaning behind this question as I think this went over my head.

I think he was thinking that since he was on steroids he should train longer in the gym and more often, this could lead to injuries though so it's not a good idea.

jt

[krazee]

I think he was thinking that since he was on steroids he should train longer in the gym and more often, this could lead to injuries though so it's not a good idea.

jt

Ah, I got ya......whether your on the sugo or off...over training is not good for anyone, IMO...

[jtsunami]

Ah, I got ya......whether your on the sugo or off...over training is not good for anyone, IMO...

plz change your post count.

jt

[krazee]

plz change your post count.

jt

First of all how do I change my post count, secondly why am I changing it...cuz I made an acknowledgement to a comment you made..please explain.

[4thAD]

What was it JT 666 or something? LOL

I agree with the above you don't want to over train just because your on the juice. I train each body part 1x ew and that seems to be efficient for me. I get good growth and good recovery time.

[4thAD]

First of all how do I change my post count, secondly why am I changing it...cuz I made an acknowledgement to a comment you made..please explain.

Your post count was 666 JT was just playing with ya.

[krazee]

Your post count was 666 JT was just playing with ya.

Fair enough...I know alot of people that have been here for awhile that dont like when others reply just to get there post count up...been here for awhile, that`s not my style at all trust me...

JT..no offence bro.

[tbombz]

What was it JT 666 or something? LOL

I agree with the above you don't want to over train just because your on the juice. I train each body part 1x ew and that seems to be efficient for me. I get good growth and good recovery time.

even if your a person is not on steroids, i believe twice per week (1-2-3-rest-1-2-3-repeat) will be the best.   if you think about why you trian = why do i trai ? if its to increase muscle size, then you are trianing t make your body start synthesizing protein (buildmuscle). now, after one lifts weights, protein synthesis as a result of the weight training is maximized immidietly after (the first couple hours post training) and then it iss still elevated for two days time, at which point protein synthesis is then not above normal any more. so, in order to maximize growth, you want protein synthesis elevated as much as possible. if a muscle is being hit once every seven days, then its growing for 2-3 days, but remaining the same for 4-5 days. now, if you trian a muscle 2 times per 7 seven days (1-2-3-rest-1-2-3-repeat) than you will have elevated protein synthesis almost always, with just enough rest to allow for the muscle to fully adapt from the training, and alos one full day off per week to allow for some CNS rehabilition.