done doing biceps with back. too much trauma on the elbow joint, ligaments and tendons. anybody else feel the same way?, bicep workout is much productive with anyother body part
Do you know what that mean? It mean that you haven't done it correctly, and that is why you get so "much trauma" by doing it. Instead of ruin your training with stupid changes to worse method, just learn to train correctly.
If you train your back first, you should concentrate to do all work with your back muscles, and if you feel it in your biceps, you have a wrong range of motion or too much weight, and you should correct it. When you have learn to do it right and your back training is over, your biceps would have gone trough very good pre exhaustion, so you don't need to use so many sets to train them. Do just few good and heavy sets, two exercises would be enough, like barbell curl and seated cable curl. + what ever you do with your forearms. You should understand that your bicep weight is something like 4-5 lb, so muscle that small doesn't need much training before it goes in catabolic state. You also should vary between sets with 20 to 30 reps and sets with 6 to 8 reps, for example every other training session. Why? Well, your ligaments and tendons etc. are quite dense stuff, and they have quite slow metabolism, so they will benefit from those long sets. You can accelerate their metabolism by giving them few long sets with moderate weights, and they grow thicker and more durable. For example, before every leg workout I do two or three sets of 100 reps at leg extension machine with no more than 60lb, just couple minutes of stretching between sets, and after that I do my squats and presses. Never used any straps or knee supports while doing squats or leg presses, because I don't feel need for them with those quite moderate weights I use, like 400lb for squat and 1000 for leg press right after squats...
