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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #100 on: December 25, 2008, 09:39:33 PM »
what if they put on so much oil, the fighter couldn't get a grip on them? What if the sequins from the thong reflect off the light and blind the fighter?

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #101 on: December 25, 2008, 09:43:03 PM »
BB=all show no go.


Trained fighter= real life ass kicker.




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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #102 on: December 25, 2008, 10:29:33 PM »
This russian should be matched up against Dexter Jackson:


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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #103 on: December 26, 2008, 01:01:47 AM »
This russian should be matched up against Dexter Jackson:


Dexter's shredded glutes would intimidate him.

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #104 on: December 26, 2008, 01:28:10 AM »
Of course this argument is moot as it probably will never happen. Any top MMA fighter will fight any top bodybuilder but no top bodybuilder will ever step into the ring or cage with an MMA fighter. Of course, if a bodybuilder decides to change sports then that's a different story. But then it's a different argument. Chris Cook has made the transition and we are still awaiting his success story. I do find it interesting that he did not find all his previous muscle mass advantages in Jiu-Jitsu and MMA.

Here is part one (I'll leave it to you to ifnd part 2) of Roger Gracie's fight with Ron Waterman, the closest (and pretty damn close) thing you'll find to a competitive bodybuilder, going at it. Roger is primarily a tournament Jiu-Jitsu and submission wrestler champion. His stand up here is in it's infancy as this is his first crack at MMA. His physique would be the subject of ridicule on this board. Waterman, I would think, would get enthusiastic compliments on his build. Deservedly so. But, as you can see, big muscles wasn't enough. And this guy has legit MMA skills. Infinitely more than a Coleman, Ruhl, Cutler, Cormier, et al.

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #105 on: December 26, 2008, 01:44:18 AM »
mma fighting is mostly determined by your gas tank/cardio,providing the skill level is somewhat close.if anyone here thinks for a second that ronnie or dex could fight hard for more then 3 to 5 minutes straight they are sadly decieved.the guys who train know what im talking about,also just because you bench press alot doesnt mean you know how to throw a PROPER punch.most big strong guys that i see hit heavy bags in bodybuilding gyms throw arm punches and punch wrong on top of that.just like bodybuilders spend thousands of hours lifting and posing,these guys spend the same amount of time perfecting the art of fighting and know how to break limbs.i do agree ronnies arm is much stronger then bj penns arm but if bj gets ronnie in a deep arm bar its over for ronnie,now its ronnies one arm against bj,s whole body leverage.for any of you guys that consider yourself strong all you have to do is go into a reputable bjj academy and ask one of the blue belt and upper students to place you in a tight arm bar,you can even ask someone 50 lbs lighter then you if it makes you feel better,then see if you can escape it by using force.the thing is when your caught in a submission the more strength you use to pull out the more your straining your tendons and ligaments.i do know guys who bodybuild and take mma classes and are doing pretty well,but they admitted to me that they had to get off most of the drugs they where on cause they would gas in 2 minutes,the only thing you can use is alittle E.Q. and deca imo.ive used them both with no adverse affects on my cardio when i competed.most of the other bjj/mma guys who do use juice use the E.Q and deca also.one guy when on a heavy dbol and test cycle,i try to tell him its not a good idea,anyway he gassed in 3 minutes and his forearms and bis got so pumped he couldnt even grip the guy anymore in his first match of the night,lol.i do agree anything can happen in a fight but lets be real,bodybuilders do what they do and thats build muscle and show it off,they couldnt care less about fighting thats why they aint pro fighters,mma guys couldnt care less about having 20 inch biceps but rather having leaner more functional muscle tissue.its 2 different sports,i do believe strength is important but bjj was designed by the gracie family for that sole purpose,to use leverage to beat a stronger man.a japenese traveler from japan came to brazil in the early 1900,s to learn the custom of brazil among other things business wise,the gracies helped him and took him into thier home,the japanese guy just happened to be a very good jiu jitsu practitioner.he offered to teach them the art for all the hospitality the gracies showed to him,they accepted.helio gracie,who is in his 90,s now, and i shit you not that hed kick most peoples asses even now.helio used to sit in and watch the elder gracies teaching the art the students but realized he would never be any good at it cause alot of the moves required alittle more strength then he had,he was a frail kid,110lbs as a teenager.so he started to modify the moves so you didnt need as much strength but rather levarage and technique.no one paid him any mind until one day one of the gracie teachers was runnuing late to start class and helio said ill start it and the students agreed,the funny thing was little helio was submitting much bigger men then him and quickly got everyones attention.the gracie elders where so impressed that they let helio teach his own classes and gracie jiu jitsu was born.helios philosiphy was with enough levarage you can move the world.levarage is the heart and soul of bjj,its being able to seize another mans limb and use the strength of your whole body to attack that one limb of that person.im not gonna sit here and say bj penn would destroy ronnie and all that stuff because like i said anything can happen in a fight,but bj penn is one of the sports superstars who is a genetic freak in mma.ronnie is a super powerful human being and i dont think anyone,including mma fighters would dominate ronnie in his window period,BUT ronnie would only have a window of oppurtunity for 3 to 5 minutes before his gas tank and lactic acid build up would start to give him problems,and we all seen what happens when a fighter gasses.im sure in that time frame he has the ability to hurt anyone on the planet.think about a gorilla for a second,a gorilla has no puching technique or bjj training,i shouldnt say that cause these days everyones training bjj,lol.but put a gorilla in the octagon and put a mouth guard on him so he cant use his teeth to bight someones nuts off,and i cant imagine anyone choking out a gorilla cause they dont even have necks,thier traps are so huge,lol.theres no way anyones gonna armbar a gorilla imo,i know it sounds like im contradicting myself here but hear me out.we are talking about an animal that has the strength of prolly 4 ronnie colemans,it would be kinda like taking the worlds fastest human and putting him in a race against a greyhound dog or a cheetah.it doesnt mean that the trained runner is not training right it just means that everything has its limitations,phil baroni, the mma fighter is real close friends with jay cutler,ken shamrock is best friends with big dan freeman,the top national bodybuilder years ago.like i said athletes bad mouthing each other doesnt do anyone any good in the end,rampage jokes on everyone including other mma fighters,hes always joking and anyone who follows mma knows he meant no disrespect to any bodybuilders,peace

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #106 on: December 26, 2008, 01:45:04 AM »

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #107 on: December 26, 2008, 03:09:36 AM »
mma fighting is mostly determined by your gas tank/cardio,providing the skill level is somewhat close.
Is there any Martial arts which require more strength than the others to be effective? if so which ones?

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #108 on: December 26, 2008, 03:32:03 AM »
a 170pound tit like bj penn can easily murder any bodybuilder no matter how big they are, epic cosmetic muscles
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lol, but well, while he is a great fighter, he has a shitty phisique...
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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #109 on: December 26, 2008, 03:42:26 AM »
It's not just fighters that mock bodybuilders. It's also... well, everybody else.

Bingo!

That's why I say I lift weights.  ;D

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #110 on: December 26, 2008, 06:43:25 AM »
mma fighting is mostly determined by your gas tank/cardio,providing the skill level is somewhat close.if anyone here thinks for a second that ronnie or dex could fight hard for more then 3 to 5 minutes straight they are sadly decieved.the guys who train know what im talking about,also just because you bench press alot doesnt mean you know how to throw a PROPER punch.most big strong guys that i see hit heavy bags in bodybuilding gyms throw arm punches and punch wrong on top of that.just like bodybuilders spend thousands of hours lifting and posing,these guys spend the same amount of time perfecting the art of fighting and know how to break limbs.i do agree ronnies arm is much stronger then bj penns arm but if bj gets ronnie in a deep arm bar its over for ronnie,now its ronnies one arm against bj,s whole body leverage.for any of you guys that consider yourself strong all you have to do is go into a reputable bjj academy and ask one of the blue belt and upper students to place you in a tight arm bar,you can even ask someone 50 lbs lighter then you if it makes you feel better,then see if you can escape it by using force.the thing is when your caught in a submission the more strength you use to pull out the more your straining your tendons and ligaments.i do know guys who bodybuild and take mma classes and are doing pretty well,but they admitted to me that they had to get off most of the drugs they where on cause they would gas in 2 minutes,the only thing you can use is alittle E.Q. and deca imo.ive used them both with no adverse affects on my cardio when i competed.most of the other bjj/mma guys who do use juice use the E.Q and deca also.one guy when on a heavy dbol and test cycle,i try to tell him its not a good idea,anyway he gassed in 3 minutes and his forearms and bis got so pumped he couldnt even grip the guy anymore in his first match of the night,lol.i do agree anything can happen in a fight but lets be real,bodybuilders do what they do and thats build muscle and show it off,they couldnt care less about fighting thats why they aint pro fighters,mma guys couldnt care less about having 20 inch biceps but rather having leaner more functional muscle tissue.its 2 different sports,i do believe strength is important but bjj was designed by the gracie family for that sole purpose,to use leverage to beat a stronger man.a japenese traveler from japan came to brazil in the early 1900,s to learn the custom of brazil among other things business wise,the gracies helped him and took him into thier home,the japanese guy just happened to be a very good jiu jitsu practitioner.he offered to teach them the art for all the hospitality the gracies showed to him,they accepted.helio gracie,who is in his 90,s now, and i shit you not that hed kick most peoples asses even now.helio used to sit in and watch the elder gracies teaching the art the students but realized he would never be any good at it cause alot of the moves required alittle more strength then he had,he was a frail kid,110lbs as a teenager.so he started to modify the moves so you didnt need as much strength but rather levarage and technique.no one paid him any mind until one day one of the gracie teachers was runnuing late to start class and helio said ill start it and the students agreed,the funny thing was little helio was submitting much bigger men then him and quickly got everyones attention.the gracie elders where so impressed that they let helio teach his own classes and gracie jiu jitsu was born.helios philosiphy was with enough levarage you can move the world.levarage is the heart and soul of bjj,its being able to seize another mans limb and use the strength of your whole body to attack that one limb of that person.im not gonna sit here and say bj penn would destroy ronnie and all that stuff because like i said anything can happen in a fight,but bj penn is one of the sports superstars who is a genetic freak in mma.ronnie is a super powerful human being and i dont think anyone,including mma fighters would dominate ronnie in his window period,BUT ronnie would only have a window of oppurtunity for 3 to 5 minutes before his gas tank and lactic acid build up would start to give him problems,and we all seen what happens when a fighter gasses.im sure in that time frame he has the ability to hurt anyone on the planet.think about a gorilla for a second,a gorilla has no puching technique or bjj training,i shouldnt say that cause these days everyones training bjj,lol.but put a gorilla in the octagon and put a mouth guard on him so he cant use his teeth to bight someones nuts off,and i cant imagine anyone choking out a gorilla cause they dont even have necks,thier traps are so huge,lol.theres no way anyones gonna armbar a gorilla imo,i know it sounds like im contradicting myself here but hear me out.we are talking about an animal that has the strength of prolly 4 ronnie colemans,it would be kinda like taking the worlds fastest human and putting him in a race against a greyhound dog or a cheetah.it doesnt mean that the trained runner is not training right it just means that everything has its limitations,phil baroni, the mma fighter is real close friends with jay cutler,ken shamrock is best friends with big dan freeman,the top national bodybuilder years ago.like i said athletes bad mouthing each other doesnt do anyone any good in the end,rampage jokes on everyone including other mma fighters,hes always joking and anyone who follows mma knows he meant no disrespect to any bodybuilders,peace

if you read this you where either very bored or very interested,lol,either way thanks :)


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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #111 on: December 26, 2008, 06:51:23 AM »
gracie bjj, you are quickly becoming one of my favorite GB posters.  the style is a little bunched up, but the info you bring is new and interesting - keep it up!

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #112 on: December 26, 2008, 06:54:29 AM »

if you read this you where either very bored or very interested,lol,either way thanks :)


Put the shit in PARAGRAPHS for fuck sake!!!

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #113 on: December 26, 2008, 07:15:53 AM »
ive been diagnosed with (SRS)slight retardation syndrome,they say ill get better with counseling.ive always sucked at typing paragraphs and sentences,im tryin my best believe it or not.plus ive done tons of drugs over the years and my brains pretty fried at this point of my life.im gonna make a better effort even though im really struggling with this bi polar shit,im on xanax and methadone and man that shit really knocks you out
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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #114 on: December 26, 2008, 08:21:12 AM »
I really think it's a joke how pro BB is trying to jump on the mma bandwagon, people talk about how the 2 "sports" have so much in common that it's just natural for them to work together.  that's garbage.  What does BB bring to the table?  The UFC wouldn't benifit one bit from having the top 10 BB in the world show up in the front row of the next PPV event but I would almost bet that flex sells more copies when they put randy and brock on the cover of thier mag...hell they bumped mr. O for that.

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #115 on: December 26, 2008, 08:22:10 AM »
MMA, IFBB, NFL, LPGA, MLS....doesn't matter.  They all respect me in the streets...  ;D

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #116 on: December 26, 2008, 08:28:02 AM »
MMA, IFBB, NFL, LPGA, MLS....doesn't matter.  They all respect me in the streets...  ;D


You're a pretty scary guy Tyrell Jamal Muhammed

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« Reply #117 on: December 26, 2008, 08:47:42 AM »

You're a pretty scary guy Tyrell Jamal Muhammed

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #118 on: December 26, 2008, 09:05:05 AM »
mma fighting is mostly determined by your gas tank/cardio,providing the skill level is somewhat close.if anyone here thinks for a second that ronnie or dex could fight hard for more then 3 to 5 minutes straight they are sadly decieved.the guys who train know what im talking about,also just because you bench press alot doesnt mean you know how to throw a PROPER punch.most big strong guys that i see hit heavy bags in bodybuilding gyms throw arm punches and punch wrong on top of that.just like bodybuilders spend thousands of hours lifting and posing,these guys spend the same amount of time perfecting the art of fighting and know how to break limbs.i do agree ronnies arm is much stronger then bj penns arm but if bj gets ronnie in a deep arm bar its over for ronnie,now its ronnies one arm against bj,s whole body leverage.for any of you guys that consider yourself strong all you have to do is go into a reputable bjj academy and ask one of the blue belt and upper students to place you in a tight arm bar,you can even ask someone 50 lbs lighter then you if it makes you feel better,then see if you can escape it by using force.the thing is when your caught in a submission the more strength you use to pull out the more your straining your tendons and ligaments.i do know guys who bodybuild and take mma classes and are doing pretty well,but they admitted to me that they had to get off most of the drugs they where on cause they would gas in 2 minutes,the only thing you can use is alittle E.Q. and deca imo.ive used them both with no adverse affects on my cardio when i competed.most of the other bjj/mma guys who do use juice use the E.Q and deca also.one guy when on a heavy dbol and test cycle,i try to tell him its not a good idea,anyway he gassed in 3 minutes and his forearms and bis got so pumped he couldnt even grip the guy anymore in his first match of the night,lol.i do agree anything can happen in a fight but lets be real,bodybuilders do what they do and thats build muscle and show it off,they couldnt care less about fighting thats why they aint pro fighters,mma guys couldnt care less about having 20 inch biceps but rather having leaner more functional muscle tissue.its 2 different sports,i do believe strength is important but bjj was designed by the gracie family for that sole purpose,to use leverage to beat a stronger man.a japenese traveler from japan came to brazil in the early 1900,s to learn the custom of brazil among other things business wise,the gracies helped him and took him into thier home,the japanese guy just happened to be a very good jiu jitsu practitioner.he offered to teach them the art for all the hospitality the gracies showed to him,they accepted.helio gracie,who is in his 90,s now, and i shit you not that hed kick most peoples asses even now.helio used to sit in and watch the elder gracies teaching the art the students but realized he would never be any good at it cause alot of the moves required alittle more strength then he had,he was a frail kid,110lbs as a teenager.so he started to modify the moves so you didnt need as much strength but rather levarage and technique.no one paid him any mind until one day one of the gracie teachers was runnuing late to start class and helio said ill start it and the students agreed,the funny thing was little helio was submitting much bigger men then him and quickly got everyones attention.the gracie elders where so impressed that they let helio teach his own classes and gracie jiu jitsu was born.helios philosiphy was with enough levarage you can move the world.levarage is the heart and soul of bjj,its being able to seize another mans limb and use the strength of your whole body to attack that one limb of that person.im not gonna sit here and say bj penn would destroy ronnie and all that stuff because like i said anything can happen in a fight,but bj penn is one of the sports superstars who is a genetic freak in mma.ronnie is a super powerful human being and i dont think anyone,including mma fighters would dominate ronnie in his window period,BUT ronnie would only have a window of oppurtunity for 3 to 5 minutes before his gas tank and lactic acid build up would start to give him problems,and we all seen what happens when a fighter gasses.im sure in that time frame he has the ability to hurt anyone on the planet.think about a gorilla for a second,a gorilla has no puching technique or bjj training,i shouldnt say that cause these days everyones training bjj,lol.but put a gorilla in the octagon and put a mouth guard on him so he cant use his teeth to bight someones nuts off,and i cant imagine anyone choking out a gorilla cause they dont even have necks,thier traps are so huge,lol.theres no way anyones gonna armbar a gorilla imo,i know it sounds like im contradicting myself here but hear me out.we are talking about an animal that has the strength of prolly 4 ronnie colemans,it would be kinda like taking the worlds fastest human and putting him in a race against a greyhound dog or a cheetah.it doesnt mean that the trained runner is not training right it just means that everything has its limitations,phil baroni, the mma fighter is real close friends with jay cutler,ken shamrock is best friends with big dan freeman,the top national bodybuilder years ago.like i said athletes bad mouthing each other doesnt do anyone any good in the end,rampage jokes on everyone including other mma fighters,hes always joking and anyone who follows mma knows he meant no disrespect to any bodybuilders,peace

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #119 on: December 26, 2008, 09:39:35 AM »
what if they put on so much oil, the fighter couldn't get a grip on them? What if the sequins from the thong reflect off the light and blind the fighter?

Then you grab the vain bodybuilder's shredded glutes and proceed to destroy him. You just have to be careful that it doesn't turn on his G4P, grapefruit fuckin', tranny pounding ass though. As long as he hasn't taken his daily dose of 25 Viagra and Cialis to get his dick working, you've probably got nothing to worry about though.

Seriously. You can be all for bodybuilding but in comparison to just about any sport, it's gay as fuck. Gayer than sweaty grease monkeys playing cricket under the hot Indian sun. No one can deny it. I don't even try defending bodybuilding anymore. It's a futile attempt.

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #120 on: December 26, 2008, 12:55:04 PM »
This video shows us a fight between a bber and Gracie. Well, for a guy that never trained any martial art the bber never was overmatched, or murdered like some of you guys say. He lost the figt, that's a fact, by getting into an arm bar, but im UFC MMA lots of superheroes fighters lose their matches in arm bars, so I do not consider it a big deal. I think that in 10 fights this bodybuilder could win 3 or 4 against this second degree black belt. if the bber took 3 weeks of boxing training he would have wiped that guy's ass...

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=ho2MUZBtAwM&feature=related
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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #121 on: December 26, 2008, 12:59:26 PM »
This video shows us a fight between a bber and Gracie. Well, for a guy that never trained any martial art the bber never was overmatched, or murdered like some of you guys say. He lost the figt, that's a fact, by getting into an arm bar, but im UFC MMA lots of superheroes fighters lose their matches in arm bars, so I do not consider it a big deal. I think that in 10 fights this bodybuilder could win 3 or 4 against this second degree black belt. if the bber took 3 weeks of boxing training he would have wiped that guy's ass...

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=ho2MUZBtAwM&feature=related

That was also a fight: 150 pounds vs. 250 pounds ::) And Pedro Gracie = not even a top ranked MMA fighter.. We're not talking "black belts" here, but real competitive MMA fighters.

Put a 170 - 180 pounder (top ranked) against the same 250 pounder, and he'd be dead.

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #122 on: December 26, 2008, 01:02:21 PM »
That was also a fight: 150 pounds vs. 250 pounds ::) And Pedro Gracie = not even a top ranked MMA fighter.. We're not talking "black belts" here, but real competitive MMA fighters.

Put a 170 - 180 pounder (top ranked) against the same 250 pounder, and he'd be dead.
That bber isn't Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie would have broken that guy in two.
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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #123 on: December 26, 2008, 01:03:50 PM »
That bber isn't Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie would have broken that guy in two.

Your argument = still flawed.


Put a 180 - 205 pounder (top UFC) against Ronnie, and Ronnie = dead.

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Re: UFC Fighters mock bodybuilders, Dexter Jackson
« Reply #124 on: December 26, 2008, 01:04:49 PM »
ive been diagnosed with (SRS)slight retardation syndrome,they say ill get better with counseling.ive always sucked at typing paragraphs and sentences,im tryin my best believe it or not.plus ive done tons of drugs over the years and my brains pretty fried at this point of my life.im gonna make a better effort even though im really struggling with this bi polar shit,im on xanax and methadone and man that shit really knocks you out

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