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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #50 on: December 25, 2008, 11:39:03 AM »
You can be a big bber. But being a pro is another story. You have to have shape and quality too. Of course,you should be better than those thousand of top amateur.I dont say you cant. But its not so easy like you imagine. You havent been on stage even once. On there, another story.

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« Reply #51 on: December 25, 2008, 11:56:56 AM »
I know what a few high level guys do and I have no idea what you mean. Could you elaborate a little bit - how does this secret info differ from what someone might find on a forum? And if this info is so special how come so many guys nowadays don't hit extremely impressive conditioning come showtime? It's not working a lot of times. Many pros don't really care for much technical knowledge anyway. You know this if you know how bodybuilders are a lot of times. Most of the time the better the bb the worse the technical knowledge of drugs IME. Their "guru" has to be on their ass to make sure they follow the plan. And let's not even talk about what kind of fools are advising some of these guys. Pure luck if their plan works and they don't kill the guy.




sure van.

the question i asked was simple.

if he is who he says he is, it won't be that difficult to tell me what types of insulin is used on which days in which amounts at what times, with what macros on what days and amounts at which times.

certain types of insulin are used on certain days of the last week at equal times with specific types and amounts of carbs.

i can't make the question any simpler than that. if he is who he says he is, this question for him should be easy to answer. i know you couldn't, and he proclaims you to be the only source of advise on the board to listen to other than him. not trying to pick a beef with you, just stating fact.

do a google search. let me know what you come up with. thats how it differs. tell you what- you find me this protocol online. i'll save you some time and trouble. you won't. depletion, water, diuretics all that other bullshit you can find with the click of the button on your mouse.

he isn't who he says it is. he's the wizard behind the curtain in the magical land of OZ. someone who proclaims to be something he isn't.

one day someone who doesn't know better is going to hurt themselves listening to his advise thinking they are getting their advise from a pro. nothing could be further from the truth.

the guy is a joke, and you all just suck it up and can't wait for more.



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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #52 on: December 25, 2008, 11:58:49 AM »

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« Reply #53 on: December 25, 2008, 12:01:53 PM »
Van ... it's because people like noone who never been there do not understand that the final prep for a show is a personal thing achieved through trial and error and it is also different every time ...that's why it's a hit and miss ...you're playing with some very delicate balances

ahahahha...

listen to the bald romainian twink who has never broken a buck 80 talking about contest prep.

please sementease, tell us all about your personal, extensive experience with contest prep, you MONSTER. lol.

the only experience you have with any part of anyone's prep is oiling up your boyfriends from the gym backstage.

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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #56 on: December 25, 2008, 12:08:48 PM »

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« Reply #57 on: December 25, 2008, 12:29:08 PM »
certain types of insulin are used on certain days of the last week at equal times with specific types and amounts of carbs.
Alright, here's what I don't understand about your post. You make it sound like there is a very specific schedule used by every top Mr O competitor, and that this schedule can't be found on any forum or any other resource. Is this what you're saying? Every top Olympia competitor uses the same specific plan?
I don't understand if you're trying to see if he is a specific person or just a high level competitor.

I know what some pros have done and it's nothing you couldn't find on the net. And they are always changing things around because it's not always working like they hope. Asking everyone around them what they think they should do because they don't quite trust the guru they may be working with.
 
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« Reply #58 on: December 25, 2008, 12:48:32 PM »
Alright, here's what I don't understand about your post. You make it sound like there is a very specific schedule used by every top Mr O competitor, and that this schedule can't be found on any forum or any other resource. Is this what you're saying? Every top Olympia competitor uses the same specific plan?
I don't understand if you're trying to see if he is a specific person or just a high level competitor.

I know what some pros have done and it's nothing you couldn't find on the net. And they are always changing things around because it's not always working like they hope. Asking everyone around them what they think they should do because they don't quite trust the guru they may be working with.
 
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where did i say every top level competitor uses a protocol like this or similar too it? i didn't. i don't know what others use. but you can bet that at least one or two types of insulin are used on specific days in specific amounts with specific types of carbs in specific amounts by guys who are highly competitive. milos would know what i'm talking about. alot of guys bust his balls (read kids on forums)  but he knows his chemistry.

if he is who he says he is, should be able to answer the question. the reason i ask this question is because it isn't something you can 'guess' at. you have to know it. thats why it would be hard for anyone to answer it that has no idea of what they are talking about. you can't bullshit it.

you can find things readily on the net regarding last week prep. it is as common as guys like sementease who think they have 'pro' genetics. this is more speciaised. thats why i use it as an example.

van, you know your shit when it comes to the drug side of the sport. i read your posts and they are spot on- my point is this guy is proclaiming himself a guru and a pro bodybuilder and truth is you prolly know as much as he does, if not more. i think you are a credit to the steroid forum. you give responsible accurate advise, GH15 is going to hurt somebody some day. some kid reading his posts will think the road to a pro card lies in 3 grams of test a week. he is irresponsible and could give a fuck his gimmick will possibly hurt someone some day. alot of impressionable kids read this forum, it isn't just us adults who kick around here.

i'm surprised not more people clued in to how much of a fraud this guy was when he proclaimed to control world politics. truth is, people like sementease for example and others need to believe GH15 is real. he tells them they can be pros if they take enough juice. he gives them hope when really they have none. thats why his legitimacy is so rooted in their minds.
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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #59 on: December 25, 2008, 12:57:08 PM »
That info can be found on the net. It's very basic and common sense if you think about it. 10-15g of carb per unit of insuin..What's so secret about that? Milos told me to use it on the 1st day of your carb up. I thought of that before he actually told me so it validated what I was thinking to a degree.Tom Prince said it too on muscle mayhem when someone asked him if he used insulin, he said only when he carbed up for a show. It makes sense to use humalog while you're dieting on high carb days only. Milos said that with the trevor smith article. It's on the net, find it. You will have to spend a lot of time reading more than one board to get the answers you're looking for. One problem is that there are a lot of young guys just coming to this or anyother site and they miss the old days when the guys on the boards where more forth coming with the info. Tom, ProPhantom, Chad and Milo's debate was legendary and the version he has on his site is NOT the FULL version. I printed it the day they started. You have time to educate yourself and I highly recommend that you do so to find out WHY you're doing certain things. Food for thought.

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« Reply #60 on: December 25, 2008, 01:15:32 PM »
where did i say every top level competitor uses a protocol like this or similar too it? i didn't. i don't know what others use. but you can bet that at least one or two types of insulin are used on specific days in specific amounts with specific types of carbs in specific amounts by guys who are highly competitive. milos would know what i'm talking about. alot of guys bust his balls (read kids on forums)  but he knows his chemistry.

if he is who he says he is, should be able to answer the question. the reason i ask this question is because it isn't something you can 'guess' at. you have to know it. thats why it would be hard for anyone to answer it that has no idea of what they are talking about. you can't bullshit it.

you can find things readily on the net regarding last week prep. it is as common as guys like sementease who think they have 'pro' genetics. this is more speciaised. thats why i use it as an example.

van, you know your shit when it comes to the drug side of the sport. i read your posts and they are spot on- my point is this guy is proclaiming himself a guru and a pro bodybuilder and truth is you prolly know as much as he does, if not more. i think you are a credit to the steroid forum. you give responsible accurate advise, GH15 is going to hurt somebody some day. some kid reading his posts will think the road to a pro card lies in 3 grams of test a week. he is irresponsible and could give a fuck his gimmick will possibly hurt someone some day. alot of impressionable kids read this forum, it isn't just us adults who kick around here.

i'm surprised not more people clued in to how much of a fraud this guy was when he proclaimed to control world politics. truth is, people like sementease for example and others need to believe GH15 is real. he tells them they can be pros if they take enough juice. he gives them hope when really they have none. thats why his legitimacy is so rooted in their minds.

gh15 quated the first garbage it could find of yours as in your last post,,this is reply to all of your posts,,
first and formost gh15 respect any truthful lifter no matter who it is BUT your attitude is disgrace thus you lost a lot of what you could havce got out of gh15 if you were polite ,,

gh15 would to be regard as god when he is refered to with specific questions,,you didnt do it ,,yes gh15 is a narcsist and think it is invinsible simply because it is ,,gh15 has too much power in the bodybuilding industry to be any other thing and that will be discussed in the gh15 chronologicals starting jan 1

now even though youre piece of crap in the way you write and talk out of your ass when every professional and amatuer bodybuilding will tell you gh15 is the real deal ,,,even though you are this disrespectful!!! gh15 will elaborate about what gh15 does! gh15 charge for specific information a lot of money yet you think you can come here and just get it out of gh15 ,,why should gh15 give you secret of professionals ? did you pay ? gh15 can tell you like it tells many others to go to read about it from good amatuers such as mikexxl over at steroid.com ,,swolecat ,,redbaron,,there is plenty of information about final week prep on many boards and the fellas here can get you links ,,gh15 is too busy ,,gh15 just saw a dog died and you come with demands like youre julius ceazar,,

this is what GH15 ME PROFESSIONAL IFBB TAKE PRE COMPETITON IN THE FINAL DAYS I WILL NOT MENTION DOSES AND TIMING BECAUSE  I DONT WANT UNLIKE WHAT YOU SAY HERE FOR SOME KID TO FOLLOW IT ,,MY DOSES ARE HIGHER THAN OTHER PROFESSIONALS AND I HAVE KNOWN TO FUCK UP SOMETIMES

GH15 TAKES ANAPOLON starting 5 days pre,,NOVALOG few days pre ,,WITH THE ADDITION OF DYZIDE AND INJECT LASIX,,DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT DO IT UNLESS YOU HAVE LOTS OF EXPERIENCE,,MY DOSES ARE NOT TO BE DETAILED FOR A NO BODY NAME NO ONE ON GETBIG,,THIS IS WHERE GH15 PUT LIMITS ON INFO ,,THE BASICS CAN BE READ ON MANY BOARDS AS GH15 SAID BEFORE

AGAIN WHAT GH15 USES IS ANAPOLON LAST COUPLE DAYS  WITH NOVALOG AND SPECIFIC DURETICS EITHER BOTH OR ONE TYPE,,THIS IS ONLY GH15 ,,MANY CHOSE TO NOT USE SLIN BECAUSE MANY END UP LIKE LUKE WOOD AND GREG K AND PALUMBO AND ALL THE REST OF THE FAILURES,,,GH15 USES IT BECAUSE HE IS TOP OF TOP

DO NOT IMMITATE UNLESS YOU ARE COMPETETIVE AND KNOW YOUR BODY WELL!

another thing friend,,if you call gh15 one more time sunny or sunshine or whatever your dumb first post said ,,,gh15 will send someone to cut your throat and serve it as main dish in moscow
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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #61 on: December 25, 2008, 01:18:48 PM »
gh15 quated the first garbage it could find of yours as in your last post,,this is reply to all of your posts,,
first and formost gh15 respect any truthful lifter no matter who it is BUT your attitude is disgrace thus you lost a lot of what you could havce got out of gh15 if you were polite ,,

gh15 would to be regard as god when he is refered to with specific questions,,you didnt do it ,,yes gh15 is a narcsist and think it is invinsible simply because it is ,,gh15 has too much power in the bodybuilding industry to be any other thing and that will be discussed in the gh15 chronologicals starting jan 1

now even though youre piece of crap in the way you write and talk out of your ass when every professional and amatuer bodybuilding will tell you gh15 is the real deal ,,,even though you are this disrespectful!!! gh15 will elaborate about what gh15 does! gh15 charge for specific information a lot of money yet you think you can come here and just get it out of gh15 ,,why should gh15 give you secret of professionals ? did you pay ? gh15 can tell you like it tells many others to go to read about it from good amatuers such as mikexxl over at steroid.com ,,swolecat ,,redbaron,,there is plenty of information about final week prep on many boards and the fellas here can get you links ,,gh15 is too busy ,,gh15 just saw a dog died and you come with demands like youre julius ceazar,,

this is what GH15 ME PROFESSIONAL IFBB TAKE PRE COMPETITON IN THE FINAL DAYS I WILL NOT MENTION DOSES AND TIMING BECAUSE  I DONT WANT UNLIKE WHAT YOU SAY HERE FOR SOME KID TO FOLLOW IT ,,MY DOSES ARE HIGHER THAN OTHER PROFESSIONALS AND I HAVE KNOWN TO FUCK UP SOMETIMES

GH15 TAKES ANAPOLON starting 5 days pre,,NOVALOG few days pre ,,WITH THE ADDITION OF DYZIDE AND INJECT LASIX,,DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT DO IT UNLESS YOU HAVE LOTS OF EXPERIENCE,,MY DOSES ARE NOT TO BE DETAILED FOR A NO BODY NAME NO ONE ON GETBIG,,THIS IS WHERE GH15 PUT LIMITS ON INFO ,,THE BASICS CAN BE READ ON MANY BOARDS AS GH15 SAID BEFORE

AGAIN WHAT GH15 USES IS ANAPOLON LAST COUPLE DAYS  WITH NOVALOG AND SPECIFIC DURETICS EITHER BOTH OR ONE TYPE,,THIS IS ONLY GH15 ,,MANY CHOSE TO NOT USE SLIN BECAUSE MANY END UP LIKE LUKE WOOD AND GREG K AND PALUMBO AND ALL THE REST OF THE FAILURES,,,GH15 USES IT BECAUSE HE IS TOP OF TOP

DO NOT IMMITATE UNLESS YOU ARE COMPETETIVE AND KNOW YOUR BODY WELL!

another thing friend,,if you call gh15 one more time sunny or sunshine or whatever your dumb first post said ,,,gh15 will send someone to cut your throat and serve it as main dish in moscow
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I hardly start bashing people.
But I say. You are such a fake pro. And attention whore and juce head.
Its time to shut up. All those pros are laughing at you.

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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #62 on: December 25, 2008, 01:25:22 PM »
I hardly start bashing people.
But I say. You are such a fake pro. And attention whore and juce head.
Its time to shut up. All those pros are laughing at you.

kyomo if i remember correctly you suppose to be natural ? while ion reality you juice and still look small and underdeveloped,,pay attention that no one of my fellow pros ever come to argue with info gh15 give nor does any top amatuer ,,the aruing crowd are bunch of gym rat who never went on stage or bunch of gym rat who competed locally example : massive g from mayhem etc

if you know paco ,,then you know very very well how hormonized he is and that he get everything in spain from direct individual that know him very well,,,ill let you thikn about it


only reason i evern talk to you is because paco knows you somewhat,,you friends at getbig ARE LUCKY TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL THAT ACTUALLY SPIT IT OUT LIKE IT IS ! NO ONE OF US WOULD DO IT IN REAL LIFE NO FUCKIN ONE!!! THEY ARE SO MAD AT ME AND IF THEY COULD PIN POINT WHO I WAS AND IT START TO BE EASY TO BE HONEST ,,,THEY WOULD NEVER TALK TO GH15 AGAIN ,,THEN AGAIN THEY NEEED GH15 MORE THAN GH15 NEEED THEM!
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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #63 on: December 25, 2008, 01:27:50 PM »
GH15 is going to hurt somebody some day. some kid reading his posts will think the road to a pro card lies in 3 grams of test a week. he is irresponsible and could give a fuck his gimmick will possibly hurt someone some day. alot of impressionable kids read this forum, it isn't just us adults who kick around here.

What do you think of Disgusted? Most of the time who he thinks is clean or juiced and ballpark amounts used on different levels of bodybuilding does not differ that much from what gh15 says. Disgusted has put his name and face out there and I think he is very honest which is rare in these circles.

I think gh15 balances out the BS that is still pushed on these forums wrt to what is possible without hormones. He is spot on about how bodybuilding as we know it does not exist without drugs. And yes, it STILL needs to be said because their impact is always minimized by certain people. He is right on about the addiction to bodybuilding drugs by bodybuilders. It's very hard to step away completely from the scene. People claim clean status but sneak in some steroids, sometimes in the guise of creative "HRT". People claim being natural, talk shit about drug users, but do every chemical and prohormone they can get their hands on legally. And so on.

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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #64 on: December 25, 2008, 01:35:04 PM »
kyomo if i remember correctly you suppose to be natural ? while ion reality you juice and still look small and underdeveloped,,pay attention that no one of my fellow pros ever come to argue with info gh15 give nor does any top amatuer ,,the aruing crowd are bunch of gym rat who never went on stage or bunch of gym rat who competed locally example : massive g from mayhem etc

if you know paco ,,then you know very very well how hormonized he is and that he get everything in spain from direct individual that know him very well,,,ill let you thikn about it


only reason i evern talk to you is because paco knows you somewhat,,you friends at getbig ARE LUCKY TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL THAT ACTUALLY SPIT IT OUT LIKE IT IS ! NO ONE OF US WOULD DO IT IN REAL LIFE NO FUCKIN ONE!!! THEY ARE SO MAD AT ME AND IF THEY COULD PIN POINT WHO I WAS AND IT START TO BE EASY TO BE HONEST ,,,THEY WOULD NEVER TALK TO GH15 AGAIN ,,THEN AGAIN THEY NEEED GH15 MORE THAN GH15 NEEED THEM!

I officialy challenge you stupid juice head.
If I am juiced I pay you 10000euro and you are invited here.
If you are wrong, you pay your trip and doping test cost.
What do you say. You fake.

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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #65 on: December 25, 2008, 01:35:46 PM »
agree with Van B. What you use is limited only by budget and availability. But budget mainly

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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #66 on: December 25, 2008, 01:38:18 PM »
Why those pros dont come to talk to you? Cus you are so crazy about juice.
I know about Paco and I wont talk about him here.
But you can judge it from my attitude toward you.

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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #67 on: December 25, 2008, 01:42:20 PM »
And sorry. I know many many juicers who are  more under-developed than me.


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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #68 on: December 25, 2008, 01:45:06 PM »
you are so crazy about juice.

Paco doesn't look very "moderate" either  :D

I mean come on! (practically natural)




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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #69 on: December 25, 2008, 01:47:42 PM »
I officialy challenge you stupid juice head.
If I am juiced I pay you 10000euro and you are invited here.
If you are wrong, you pay your trip and doping test cost.
What do you say. You fake.


 Put up or shut up, you stupid troll. Kyomu has challenged you and now you must prove the charge otherwise he can sue you for libel! You can't just go around accusing people of breaking the law - uing steroids for physique-enhancement purposes - without offering proof. Ron, are you readng this?

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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #70 on: December 25, 2008, 01:48:01 PM »
Why those pros dont come to talk to you? Cus you are so crazy about juice.
I know about Paco and I wont talk about him here.
But you can judge it from my attitude toward you.

yes i saw yoru pictures and you are natural,,you have nothing but arms and its typical of naturals,,so yes you are one that is natural,,

the paco saga of you and why yada yada,,trust me if i cut his supply he is back at 175lb,,but again he knows it you know it and the whole bodybuiding industry knows it ,,you NEVER KNOW WHATS GOINGON IN CLOSE PRO CIRCUIT OR EVEN IN AMATUER CIRCUIT,,PACO IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST USERS OF HORMONES IN EUROPE ,,HIGHEST DOSES AND MOST PRODUCTS!
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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #71 on: December 25, 2008, 01:48:11 PM »
Paco doesn't look very "moderate" either  :D

I mean come on! (practically natural)




As I said, i wont talk about him and no comment here. Cus not only trainer, he is a buddy.
But, think. If he abuse that much, I dont have any reason to bash GH15 right?

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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #72 on: December 25, 2008, 01:51:04 PM »
If he abuse that much, I dont have any reason to bash GH15 right?

How long have you known him? Are you friends outside the gym, hang out and so on?

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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #73 on: December 25, 2008, 01:52:20 PM »
As I said, i wont talk about him and no comment here. Cus not only trainer, he is a buddy.
But, think. If he abuse that much, I dont have any reason to bash GH15 right?

THJIS IS LAST COMMENT IM DOING THEN IM OUT TO SLEEP,,BEEN A LOGN DAY

PACO IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST JUICED UP HORMONIZED BODYBUILDERS IN EUROPE! AND LOTS OF HUMAN GRADE! SPAIN AND PORTUGAL ARE FULL OF THE BEST DEALERS IN THE WORLD AND PACO IS AS CLOSE TO THEM AS ANYTHING IMAGINABLE,,INFACT HE JUST GO TO PHARMACY AND GET IT ,,IF YOU CONNECT ONE AND ONE YOU WILL GET WHERE GH15 IS GETTING AT ,,HE AINT MAKING NO MONEY OF BODYBUILDING

KYOMO ITS ABOUT TIME YOU PUT YOUR SELF IN GYM AND MAYBE START HORMONIZING SO YOU HAVE SOME SIZE TO TALK ABOUT,,,ARMS IS NOT ENOUGH IN BODYBUILDING NOT EVEN FOR JAPS
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Re: GETBIG THE- 10 COMMANDMENTS
« Reply #74 on: December 25, 2008, 01:55:02 PM »
yes i saw yoru pictures and you are natural,,you have nothing but arms and its typical of naturals,,so yes you are one that is natural,,

the paco saga of you and why yada yada,,trust me if i cut his supply he is back at 175lb,,but again he knows it you know it and the whole bodybuiding industry knows it ,,you NEVER KNOW WHATS GOINGON IN CLOSE PRO CIRCUIT OR EVEN IN AMATUER CIRCUIT,,PACO IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST USERS OF HORMONES IN EUROPE ,,HIGHEST DOSES AND MOST PRODUCTS!
Wahahahahahhahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!! Even you show your fakeness here buddy!
Nobody say my strong point is my arms. Its my back and legs. And my legs are biggest in my category actualy(Of course among juicers).

I know exactly how was paco when he was XXXXX, and already 200lbs. The guy is a genetic monster.
You are just a loser who dont admit that you have a shitty genetic and dont train hard.
If the genetic is much weaker than drugs, why those juicers are not huge like Coleman? All pros know that 90%genetic except you. It means YOU ARE NOT A PRO.