Lets just give up on Israel and the Arab world

[andreisdaman]

the fact of the matter is that Israel and the Arab world do not want peace...they would rather just continue to kill each other over the bible and the Koran...the palestinians worship death and they all want to die...all for the palestinian cause..they don't care about their children and they applaud when their own children blow themselves up as suicide bombers...what kind of people are they?..they are savages and they think they will be able to destroy Israel through stupid and senseless suicide bombings ...they are wasting their time and valuble lives...Israel will NEVER EVER give up their land...the palestinians would be better off making any kind of peace with Israel that they can in order to stop the bloodshed...

All of these so-called Arab "leaders" are bent on the destruction of their own people...and these people are stupid-asses..they blindly follow these leaders and don't question their motives and tactics....they don't challenge their leaders to make their lives better....the arabs are mostly living in misery and they blame Israel and the United States for theitr own stupidity and misfortune..

Blacks in the United states were oppressed for hundreds of years, but did not resort to violence and terrorism against whites...because they and their leaders like Martin Luther King  were smart enough to understand that black people would be slaughtered by the U.S. Army if they did that....they went about change by peaceful resistance and through getting laws changed which made their lives better.....they also used morality to make whites realize that they were treating blacks wrongly and that they must change and live up to the "All men are created equal" part of the constitution...

the palestinians deserve what they are getting because they created their own misery...and the innocent people that are being killed accidentally by Israel deserve what they are getting as well because they support the arab terorists (HAMAS) who are governing them..we should just let Israel wipe them out and take back governmental control of GAZA...the lives of palestinians would be so much better if they embraced Israel and really made an effort to make peace with them.....The palestinians have to realize they ain't getting their land entirely back just like the Indians here in the U.S. aren't either.....it's not going to happen...negotiate now and try to take the best deal possible and then move on....get roads built...build schools and medical centers and nice homes and apartment buildings for your people...stop the stupid and senseless violence which has no end and which does not help the arab world or palestinian people at all

[andreisdaman]

Also our presidents should stop trying to solve the arab-Israeli conflict..they don't want peace and our presidents are always putting their own personal prestige and the prestige of the U.S. on the line when dealing with this subject...Clinton couldn't do it..Bush couldn't....they don't want to have peace because then their people would expect them to actually govern and they can't do that.......

I say we should stop getting involved in this matter altogether and let them continue to kill each other until they get tired (which won't happen)....also, if I was president I would tell all the arab nations that they need to get involved and talk to the palestinians about their actions....they need to start real negotiaitons with Israel and stop all the bulls..t talk...the arabs are backward and ignorant and need to step into the modern world.....

[Soul Crusher]

We have the typical liberal media spin again in the news.

Israel gets rocket attacks for weeks on end.  Israel responds.

It must be Israels' fault for defending itself and they should just accept getting attacked by these poor defenselsss humiliated muslims.

Screw em.  Let Israel wipe these vermin out and be done with it already.   

[shootfighter1]

Its interesting that many Jewish people are liberal and support liberal democrats, because liberal democrats are increasingly critical of Israeli actions in the middle east and the US financial support of Israel.

[2ND COMING]

We have the typical liberal media spin again in the news.

Israel gets rocket attacks for weeks on end.  Israel responds.

It must be Israels' fault for defending itself and they should just accept getting attacked by these poor defenselsss humiliated muslims.

Screw em.  Let Israel wipe these vermin out and be done with it already.   

please stop. Stop posting altogether actually. Your non-objective POV is discusting. poor little israel....poor jews...THAT is the liberal spin dickhead

[Soul Crusher]

please stop. Stop posting altogether actually. Your non-objective POV is discusting. poor little israel....poor jews...THAT is the liberal spin dickhead

I dont claim to be objective.  I have a view point based upon what I perceive to be the facts of the matter.

The palis are their own worst enemy, as always is the case.

Why is that almost every Arab country is a third world hell hole while Israel is not???

Guess what - its been that way long before the Jews were in Israel.

The arab culture are at the cause of this, nothing else.   

[Captain Equipoise]

I'm just sick of everyone (namely the U.S) siding and supporting the jews/israel, why don't the states just mind their own fucking business. The land that israel is situated on belongs to Palestine, this whole situation is complete bullshit, the jews lost that land a long long time ago, now all of a sudden it's given to them after someone is already living there.

[Soul Crusher]

I'm just sick of everyone (namely the U.S) siding and supporting the jews/israel, why don't the states just mind their own fucking business. The land that israel is situated on belongs to Palestine, this whole situation is complete bullshit, the jews lost that land a long long time ago, now all of a sudden it's given to them after someone is already living there.

Blah blah blah. 

I am sure you think Americans should lose their homes to the indians?

Your reasoning is so piss poor its embarassing.

Isreal is a tiny tiny area of land and offered the palistinians 90% of what they wanted and they rejected it.  Even Clinton said in his memoirs that he was shocked at how stupid the palistinians are in dealing with things. 

These fools send rockets to Israel and are surprised when . . shock.  . . .shock . . . Israel fights back?

I have ZERO sympathy for any race or people who want to wallow in past "grievances" rather than improve their present situation.  Its embarassing to see how dumb the palistians are in dealing with Israel.     

[Captain Equipoise]

Blah blah blah. 

I am sure you think Americans should lose their homes to the indians?

Your reasoning is so piss poor its embarassing.

Isreal is a tiny tiny area of land and offered the palistinians 90% of what they wanted and they rejected it.  Even Clinton said in his memoirs that he was shocked at how stupid the palistinians are in dealing with things. 

These fools send rockets to Israel and are surprised when . . shock.  . . .shock . . . Israel fights back?

I have ZERO sympathy for any race or people who want to wallow in past "grievances" rather than improve their present situation.  Its embarassing to see how dumb the palistians are in dealing with Israel.     

I never said that Palestinians are idiots, I think they are totally.. but it's unjust the way the world is fucking them and supporting israel.

[Soul Crusher]

I never said that Palestinians are idiots, I think they are totally.. but it's unjust the way the world is fucking them and supporting israel.

The "world" realizes that there can be no peace when groups like HAMAS are running the show and sending rockets into civilian areas on a daily basis.

The moron palistinians screw themselves, they dont need the world to do it. 

[Captain Equipoise]

The "world" realizes that there can be no peace when groups like HAMAS are running the show and sending rockets into civilian areas on a daily basis.

The moron palistinians screw themselves, they dont need the world to do it. 

They do, but it takes two to tango..israel is not doing any better, either way it's a clusterfuck that's never going to get peacefully resolved.

[andreisdaman]

No one is blindly supporting Israel...the US government has been critical of Israel when they have done something wrong...but the real victims are the Palestinians who have a culture of death and who send their children to strap on suicide bombs for a cause which could be settled quickly if they were to truly negotiate....they could easily get back 90% of their land right away....

but to tell the truth, a palestinian state is not viable anyway .....they would need massive amounts of foreign aid just to feed itself....they don't have any commodities to sell..no oil or other natural resources....and the other arab countries who are rich don't care about the palestinians and will never support them financially..the other arab countries use the palestinians as human cannon fodder against Israel...they let the stupid palestinian leaders send their children and their people to fight and die against Israel while they sit in their rich homes and palaces...

the palestinians would be better off being a part of israel....and accepting the israeli government as their own.....they would be much better off economically....they would eat better..their children would be educated...and their quality of life would be much better than that of the other arab countries...they can even get Israel back through elections.....they will eventually outnumber the Israelis due to their having more babies than the jews....all of this is much more peaceful than being in a constant state of war and having your people being totally obliterated every day

[Fury]

I'm just sick of everyone (namely the U.S) siding and supporting the jews/israel, why don't the states just mind their own fucking business. The land that israel is situated on belongs to Palestine, this whole situation is complete bullshit, the jews lost that land a long long time ago, now all of a sudden it's given to them after someone is already living there.

If the Arabs ran the Jews off that land long ago, and the Jews ran the Arabs back off it 60 years ago, why should that land still belong to the Arabs? That makes no sense whatsoever. It's war. They lost. Twice. That's Israel's land now.

Don't even cry about the "financial support" either. The USA dumps billions of dollars into countries across the middle east and they do nothing with that money. It lines the pockets of the people in power while their countrymen starve and live in squalor.

[Mars]

The mother of all battles will soon break out against the zionist agressor.

[IFBBwannaB]

If the Arabs ran the Jews off that land long ago, and the Jews ran the Arabs back off it 60 years ago, why should that land still belong to the Arabs? That makes no sense whatsoever. It's war. They lost. Twice. That's Israel's land now.

Don't even cry about the "financial support" either. The USA dumps billions of dollars into countries across the middle east and they do nothing with that money. It lines the pockets of the people in power while their countrymen starve and live in squalor.

I couldn't find a better article but this is fine.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/07/60minutes/main582487.shtml

Soha is wanted around the Arab world , she have BILLIONS that were send as relief money.

And that's Arafat who got moderate towards his death, just think what the Hamas is doing with the money....

[Hugo Chavez]

The mother of all battles will soon break out against the zionist agressor.

that's the plan prophecy.

[Mars]

the bitch lives lavishly in paris.

[freespirit]

I'm just sick of everyone (namely the U.S) siding and supporting the jews/israel, why don't the states just mind their own fucking business. The land that israel is situated on belongs to Palestine, this whole situation is complete bullshit, the jews lost that land a long long time ago, now all of a sudden it's given to them after someone is already living there.

It's been given to them by purpose. There is a plan behind this, just as there was a plan behind WW1, WW2, etcetera. The chance that Israel is going to attack Iran within the next 4 months is high.

[Captain Equipoise]

It's been given to them by purpose. There is a plan behind this, just as there was a plan behind WW1, WW2, etcetera. The chance that Israel is going to attack Iran within the next 4 months is high.

we can thank the global bankers for that.

[Ron]

the fact of the matter is that Israel and the Arab world do not want peace

Not true. 90% of Arabs and Israelis want peace.  It is that Hamas and others dont want to have peace. Until this tiny minority stops and renounces 'the destruction of Israel', it wont happen.

the palestinians deserve what they are getting because they created their own misery...

Unfair statement.  90% of the Palestinians are people who want peace for themselves and their children.  Unfortunately, in the Gaza strip, if you speak out, you can get killed. So they don't. I have friends who wish for peace, but can't publically say it, because Hamas and others will kill your family.  It is scary.

the innocent people that are being killed accidentally by Israel deserve what they are getting as well because they support the arab terorists (HAMAS)

No, it sucks. It sucks that kids get drawn into this fight. It sucks that two little girls were killed by Palestinians, and it sucks that Hamas puts military targets so close to where kids will get hurt.

[IFBBwannaB]

http://www.honestreporting.com/a/breaking_point.asp

BTW an Arab worker was killed today in Israel because a Hamas rocket hit him.

It's not the first time, they will hurt anyone without discrimination even their own people.

[andreisdaman]

Not true. 90% of Arabs and Israelis want peace.  It is that Hamas and others dont want to have peace. Until this tiny minority stops and renounces 'the destruction of Israel', it wont happen.

ambiguous statement by you...If they wanted peace they could make it happen tomorrow...and if 90% of Arabs want peace then where are the arab leaders and statesmen who are advocating for peace?..why aren't they on the news or talkshows and why are there no demonstrations at all for peace in the arab world?...have you seen any? I haven't.  have you seen ANY demonstrations or any arab spokesmen on TV renouncing terrorism???..if you have, show me.

Unfair statement.  90% of the Palestinians are people who want peace for themselves and their children.  Unfortunately, in the Gaza strip, if you speak out, you can get killed. So they don't. I have friends who wish for peace, but can't publically say it, because Hamas and others will kill your family.  It is scary.

no, not unfair at all.....yes I agree with you, it is scary..and I feel sorry for these people for living in such fear..BUT...THEY THEMSELVES VOTED TO PUT HAMAS IN POWER KNOWING THAT THEY WERE A TERROR ORGANIZATION AND THAT THEY WOULD CONFRONT ISRAEL THEREFORE BRINGING DOWN ISRAEL'S WRATH UPON THEMSELVES...you don't elect people who will lead you down the path of destruction....thats just plain stupid....and also if you want liberty, freedom, and a better way of life, then do what the blacks in America did...stand up and protest and demonstrate....against the arab leaders who are oppressing you...better to die that way than to blow yourselves up for nothing

No, it sucks. It sucks that kids get drawn into this fight. It sucks that two little girls were killed by Palestinians, and it sucks that Hamas puts military targets so close to where kids will get hurt.

on this I actually agree with you....it does suck...it sucks that HAMAS puts it's own women and children at risk by hiding behind them....they are not freedom fighters..they are cowards....and they put their own women and children to death by making them go out and become suicide bombers!!!...this goes against every law of war ever created....in the history of the world men have always strived to keep women and children OUT OF CONFLICT..instead they put theirs in the line of fire enthusiastically!!!

KEEP APOLOGIZING FOR THEM.....Hope this helps

[Slapper]

Not true. 90% of Arabs and Israelis want peace.  It is that Hamas and others dont want to have peace. Until this tiny minority stops and renounces 'the destruction of Israel', it wont happen.

Unfair statement.  90% of the Palestinians are people who want peace for themselves and their children.  Unfortunately, in the Gaza strip, if you speak out, you can get killed. So they don't. I have friends who wish for peace, but can't publically say it, because Hamas and others will kill your family.  It is scary.

No, it sucks. It sucks that kids get drawn into this fight. It sucks that two little girls were killed by Palestinians, and it sucks that Hamas puts military targets so close to where kids will get hurt.

I'll have you know the problem is not Hamas, it's the fact that Palestinians are being asked to accept 22% of their former territory. The problem is this Israel-must-exist-at-all-costs opinion.

I tell you something, letting the Israeli army run amock in the name of Israelis is not going to help. It is obvious Israel want the Gaza strip and it will do everything in its power to avoid a political settlement with the Palestinians, even if this takes totally (and militarily) isolating the Gaza strip, including the detention of United Nations personel (something that the Bush fuckups used as one of the reasons to attack and invade Iraq) and then bitching about Hamas when they have no other choice but to defend themselves.

I tell you something I've noticed an increase in the "fuck the Jews!" rethoric as of lately (from non-Muslims) so if Jews think deviating all the attention in the obviously apparent lack of human resources in some islamic countries is going to win the rest of the world's hearts and minds you're in for a surprise.

[IFBBwannaB]

I'll have you know the problem is not Hamas, it's the fact that Palestinians are being asked to accept 22% of their former territory. The problem is this Israel-must-exist-at-all-costs opinion.

I tell you something, letting the Israeli army run amock in the name of Israelis is not going to help. It is obvious Israel want the Gaza strip and it will do everything in its power to avoid a political settlement with the Palestinians, even if this takes totally (and militarily) isolating the Gaza strip, including the detention of United Nations personel (something that the Bush fuckups used as one of the reasons to attack and invade Iraq) and then bitching about Hamas when they have no other choice but to defend themselves.

I tell you something I've noticed an increase in the "fuck the Jews!" rethoric as of lately (from non-Muslims) so if Jews think deviating all the attention in the obviously apparent lack of human resources in some islamic countries is going to win the rest of the world's hearts and minds you're in for a surprise.

You're a fucking moron, you have NO idea.

Israel wants Gaza...HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH A....seriously....you have NOOOOO idea.

[Slapper]

You're a fucking moron, you have NO idea.

Israel wants Gaza...HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH A....seriously....you have NOOOOO idea.

Just Jew it!