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Bob Sapp
« on: December 28, 2008, 10:24:25 PM »
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Re: Bob Sapp
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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2008, 11:18:31 PM »
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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2008, 11:23:10 PM »
Good ol' fighting in Japan cause they don't drug test.  Gotta love it.  But he most definately is a monster.

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2008, 12:10:03 AM »
Has admitted to only being 6'3"-6'4". In any case, he was/is a monster.

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2008, 12:15:27 AM »
Living proof that any amount of skill can be overcome by sheer power.
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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2008, 12:19:30 AM »
Living proof that any amount of skill can always be overcome by sheer power.


Didn't help him recently against Jan Nortje. 

Didn't help him against Nog, Crocop, Jerome Le Banner, Kazuyuki Fujita. 

Loved watching Sefo KTFO Sapp.

He was a sideshow (like Kimbo Slice), pure and simple and never a threat to any of the top fighters in K1 or MMA. 

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2008, 12:20:41 AM »

He was a sideshow (like Kimbo Slice), pure and simple and never a threat to any of the top fighters in K1 or MMA. 

That's just wrong. Plain and simple.
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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2008, 12:29:12 AM »
It was funny when Crocop made him cry.

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2008, 12:35:48 AM »
Fighting in Japan is was pretty jacked up

Fighting for an organisation with an drugscontrole he was obiously offcycle


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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2008, 12:42:19 AM »
That's just wrong. Plain and simple.

Uh, not really. His size was nullified by SKILL as pointed out by americanbulldog. homo.

The Japanese love a sideshow attraction. In Pride, his fighting style was listed as "Football" for crying out loud. Sapp is a businessman. Plain and simple. Hope this helps.

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2008, 01:35:52 AM »
Uh, not really. His size was nullified by SKILL as pointed out by americanbulldog. homo.

The Japanese love a sideshow attraction. In Pride, his fighting style was listed as "Football" for crying out loud. Sapp is a businessman. Plain and simple. Hope this helps.

Wrong, fucking moron.

He conveniently forgot to mention that, Bob Sapp beat the BEST K-1 fighter(excluding Aerts, et al) not once, but...TWICE.

Bob Sapp, a man with limited fighting skill and poor pain tolerance, beat the former kickboxing champion of the entire world -
relying solely on his monstrous physicality.

Someone will probably chime with conspiracy theories and say, "well the fight was stopped early by the Yakuza controlled ref..."

You can watch the videos yourself on Youtube and decide for yourself.
An argument can be made that one fight was stopped early;
however, Sapp soundly defeated Hoost in their other match.

And now, today, another huge fighter with questionable skill sits atop the K-1 throne:
His name is Semmy Schilt, and he's in the 6'10'' range. The same is true in boxing:
Gigantic fighters have superseded smaller fighters.

Someone will say that giant boxers like Valuev reached the top without facing stiff competition,
but the fact is, he was facing the best competition at the time.

Now ask yourself this: What attribute of fighters can prevent them from fighting each other?
The answer is weight. Smaller fighters are not allowed to fight larger fighters, because the larger fighter is at a distinct advantage.
There are no restrictions based on the attribute of skill; a rookie is free to fight a seasoned veteran if money is to be made.
Restrictions are based only on weight, because size is a bigger factor than skill in a fight.

At a certain point, no amount of skill is going to overcome a tremendous size disparity.

Videos can be posted of smaller fighters beating larger fighters, but that doesn't disprove my initial statement, which is this:
The most skilled fighter can be defeated by someone larger, with relatively tremendous power and relatively limited skill.
Bob Sapp defeating the greatest kickboxer in the world twice, with football, is proof of the initial statement.
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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2008, 01:41:37 AM »
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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2008, 02:00:16 AM »
Wrong, fucking moron.

He conveniently forgot to mention that, Bob Sapp beat the BEST K-1 fighter(excluding Aerts, et al) not once, but...TWICE.

Bob Sapp, a man with limited fighting skill and poor pain tolerance, beat the former kickboxing champion of the entire world -
relying solely on his monstrous physicality.

Someone will probably chime with conspiracy theories and say, "well the fight was stopped early by the Yakuza controlled ref..."

You can watch the videos yourself on Youtube and decide for yourself.
An argument can be made that one fight was stopped early;
however, Sapp soundly defeated Hoost in their other match.

And now, today, another huge fighter with questionable skill sits atop the K-1 throne:
His name is Semmy Schilt, and he's in the 6'10'' range. The same is true in boxing:
Gigantic fighters have superseded smaller fighters.

Someone will say that giant boxers like Valuev reached the top without facing stiff competition,
but the fact is, he was facing the best competition at the time.

Now ask yourself this: What attribute of fighters can prevent them from fighting each other?
The answer is weight. Smaller fighters are not allowed to fight larger fighters, because the larger fighter is at a distinct advantage.
There are no restrictions based on the attribute of skill; a rookie is free to fight a seasoned veteran if money is to be made.
Restrictions are based only on weight, because size is a bigger factor than skill in a fight.

At a certain point, no amount of skill is going to overcome a tremendous size disparity.

Videos can be posted of smaller fighters beating larger fighters, but that doesn't disprove my initial statement, which is this:
The most skilled fighter can be defeated by someone larger, with relatively tremendous power and relatively limited skill.
Bob Sapp defeating the greatest kickboxer in the world twice, with football, is proof of the initial statement.

Semmy lost to Nog (see a correlation), Barnett (2x), Sergei. 

If u wanna go back to his Pancrase days, I believe he lost to Guy Mezger, Kondo, Funaki and Suzuki.

Size does matter, but only if all things are equal.  Thats why there are weight classes.  Sapp is a bad example.  He was fed a steady diet of cans from the Japanese. 

He did beat Hoost, twice, but Hoost was aged, and already on the way down.  How'd you think he do against Mark Hunt?  Not to well, when pushed, he folds like a deck of cards, kind of similar to the guy Pro Elite staked their promotion on. 

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2009, 12:42:37 PM »
Anyone and everyone's got a fighter's chance. I've seen Asian bitches in the club knock out the biggest juiced up bar stars just by hitting the lights out button on their chin. At the end of the day skill is far more important than size you disgusting little homo. Hope this helps.

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2009, 12:48:07 PM »

Didn't help him recently against Jan Nortje. 

Didn't help him against Nog, Crocop, Jerome Le Banner, Kazuyuki Fujita. 

Loved watching Sefo KTFO Sapp.

He was a sideshow (like Kimbo Slice), pure and simple and never a threat to any of the top fighters in K1 or MMA. 
could you beat him, tough guy?

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2009, 12:51:23 PM »


his brother is not bad either

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2009, 12:53:18 PM »


his brother is not bad either
i'm sure "american bulldog" the 182 pound juijitsu/tae kwon do/aikido/BJJ/wrestling/jeet koon do/boxing/kickboxing/bar room brawling/K1/MMA/WWE/Kenpo expert could beat him too.

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2009, 12:57:28 PM »
i'm sure "american bulldog" the 182 pound juijitsu/tae kwon do/aikido/BJJ/wrestling/jeet koon do/boxing/kickboxing/bar room brawling/K1/MMA/WWE/Kenpo expert could beat him too.
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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2009, 12:58:48 PM »
i'm sure "american bulldog" the 182 pound juijitsu/tae kwon do/aikido/BJJ/wrestling/jeet koon do/boxing/kickboxing/bar room brawling/K1/MMA/WWE/Kenpo expert could beat him too.

No karate in that sick martial arts repertoire? What an amateur... ;D

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2009, 01:00:02 PM »
No karate in that sick martial arts repertoire? What an amateur... ;D
i'm sure with his "ground game" he doesn't need it.

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2009, 01:02:29 PM »

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2009, 01:04:22 PM »

Didn't help him recently against Jan Nortje. 

Didn't help him against Nog, Crocop, Jerome Le Banner, Kazuyuki Fujita. 

Loved watching Sefo KTFO Sapp.

He was a sideshow (like Kimbo Slice), pure and simple and never a threat to any of the top fighters in K1 or MMA. 

Exactly! Sapp is the poster child for the pure size/strength versus skill. In Sapp's case he does have legit free style fighting skills unlike Kimbo who was simply a stand up street fighter doing battle with other street thugs and not trained athletes. But even with Sapp's decent skills and overwhelming size and strength advantage it was still no match against a professional fighter.

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2009, 01:08:41 PM »
taken to an extreme, imagine a skilled human being vs a gorilla, there is no fuccking way the human would win.  in reality though, no human has near gorilla strength so a skilled guy would win most of the time.

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Re: Bob Sapp
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2009, 01:09:51 PM »
Wrong, fucking moron.

He conveniently forgot to mention that, Bob Sapp beat the BEST K-1 fighter(excluding Aerts, et al) not once, but...TWICE.

Bob Sapp, a man with limited fighting skill and poor pain tolerance, beat the former kickboxing champion of the entire world -
relying solely on his monstrous physicality.

Someone will probably chime with conspiracy theories and say, "well the fight was stopped early by the Yakuza controlled ref..."

You can watch the videos yourself on Youtube and decide for yourself.
An argument can be made that one fight was stopped early;
however, Sapp soundly defeated Hoost in their other match.

And now, today, another huge fighter with questionable skill sits atop the K-1 throne:
His name is Semmy Schilt, and he's in the 6'10'' range. The same is true in boxing:
Gigantic fighters have superseded smaller fighters.

Someone will say that giant boxers like Valuev reached the top without facing stiff competition,
but the fact is, he was facing the best competition at the time.

Now ask yourself this: What attribute of fighters can prevent them from fighting each other?
The answer is weight. Smaller fighters are not allowed to fight larger fighters, because the larger fighter is at a distinct advantage.
There are no restrictions based on the attribute of skill; a rookie is free to fight a seasoned veteran if money is to be made.
Restrictions are based only on weight, because size is a bigger factor than skill in a fight.

At a certain point, no amount of skill is going to overcome a tremendous size disparity.

Videos can be posted of smaller fighters beating larger fighters, but that doesn't disprove my initial statement, which is this:
The most skilled fighter can be defeated by someone larger, with relatively tremendous power and relatively limited skill.
Bob Sapp defeating the greatest kickboxer in the world twice, with football, is proof of the initial statement.

I dont follow MMA but in boxing Valeuv has already lost to a guy 10 inches and 60lbs lighter in Ruslan Chagaev and lost against a 47 year old Evander Holyfield (who was robbed) who is 10 inches shorter and almost 80lbs lighter.
Valeuv is not the champion (title holder, major difference) and the Klitscho's are. Wladimer has lost to men smaller than him also.

Also, isnt Fedor only 6'3?
Hes beaten guys alot bigger than he is who were tremendous fighters in their own right.