ATTENTION Supplement Company owners - 2009 Mandate

[240 is Back]

The people have spoken.  We would like a high-quality protein 'shot' that would come in at under 4 fl ounces and deliver 35 grams of protein.

Walmart is already doing it:
http://www.thesupplementrating.com/listing.php?id=1048
http://www.livestrong.com/thedailyplate/nutrition-calories/food/body-fortress/super-whey-protein-shot/
110 calories, and 26 grams of protein, in only 2.9 fl ounces of fruit punch flavored liquid.

If they can do it, you can do it.  You can bring in better quality and something higher than 26 grams.  And please, make it cost about $1. 

Remember that there are some companies who don't sit around and worry about whatever new product is going to put their product out of business - Instead they work to be the ones to make their own product obsolete, with something newer and better.  Innovate!

Don't be the firm to ignore liquid protein shots and hope they don't reach beyond WMT aisles.  Instead, be the firm that forumulates it better and lets us get 35 grams of protein in a 4 ounce shot. 

Whichever company can do it first on a mainstream basis and give it a witty name will own that market forever.  Don't be late to this party. 

2009 starts in about 3 hours.  Your goal for 2009 should be to deliver the perfect protein shot to the world.  The clock is ticking...

[io856]

I would love to see this...

Can you keep them at room temp?

That would be perfect.

Also maybe a slow digest protein, medium digest and quick release with some aminos, sugars and creatine.

[240 is Back]

My own suggestions for names...

Protein Brew
MuscleHooch
Jacked Juice
Protein Pop
Tiger Shots

etc etc... you get the idea...

[io856]

240 why not first and foremost delete your two threads on the subject, get some capital together and start this damned thing... you got the knowledge

talk to chris mason

[240 is Back]

it's a great idea, but it's not my arena. 

I would rather the companies fight it out and just work their asses off to deliver it to us in 5 different brands so the consumer wins.

I hope Chris Mason wakes up tomorrow morning, deadlifts 700 for 12 reps, then gets to work on the formula!

[Princess L]

The people have spoken.  We would like a high-quality protein 'shot' that would come in at under 4 fl ounces and deliver 35 grams of protein.

Walmart is already doing it:
http://www.thesupplementrating.com/listing.php?id=1048
http://www.livestrong.com/thedailyplate/nutrition-calories/food/body-fortress/super-whey-protein-shot/
110 calories, and 26 grams of protein, in only 2.9 fl ounces of fruit punch flavored liquid.

If they can do it, you can do it.  You can bring in better quality and something higher than 26 grams.  And please, make it cost about $1. 

Remember that there are some companies who don't sit around and worry about whatever new product is going to put their product out of business - Instead they work to be the ones to make their own product obsolete, with something newer and better.  Innovate!

Don't be the firm to ignore liquid protein shots and hope they don't reach beyond WMT aisles.  Instead, be the firm that forumulates it better and lets us get 35 grams of protein in a 4 ounce shot. 

Whichever company can do it first on a mainstream basis and give it a witty name will own that market forever.  Don't be late to this party. 

2009 starts in about 3 hours.  Your goal for 2009 should be to deliver the perfect protein shot to the world.  The clock is ticking...

I would be suspicious as to the quality of that protein source.  
Remember, gelatin (horse hooves)  is considered a protein source  

[Tre]

Do we know it's not bullshit?
 
Is there independent lab verification of the protein quantity and quality? 

Because if so, I'm buying stock.

[240 is Back]

Do we know it's not bullshit?
 
Is there independent lab verification of the protein quantity and quality? 

Because if so, I'm buying stock.

No clue.  I would hate for the crappy walmart brand to own the market on it, and so far, google barely has noticed it, and the major supplement sites sure haven't either.

This is a call for supplement companies to all IMPROVE the idea.  Whey and milk are expensive and it's getting too costly for BBers to live on tubs of whey anymore.  WMT has an idea, and yes, it may be poor quality and untested.  That's what the BIG companies are here for  

Guys, design this product and get it to us.   WE'LL BUY IT!

[Hurricane Beef !]

240 why not first and foremost delete your two threads on the subject, get some capital together and start this damned thing... you got the knowledge
talk to chris mason

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Beef

[GetItOnNY]

This product is junk just like the rest of the stuff Body Fortress makes.Trust me if you did a Lab Assay on there protein you would be shocked.
As for this protein "SHOT" the first ingredient,which means what the products main ingredient is just happens to be Collagen protein, which is garbage.
Its make from the skin, bones tendons, and all the left overs from an animal.Its also known as Geltain protein.It can help with joint problems in some cases, but is pretty much useless for building, muscle.
Its very inexpensive, thats why mosy of these protein shots contains this garbage.Yes this product is conveneint and cheap, but it is not a good product for building or repairing muscle.
Here are the ingredients.I am willing to be if I assayed this producty it would probably would have no more then 10 grams of protein.

Ingredients: Purified Water, Proprietary
Protein Blend
(Hydrolyzed Collagenic Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate,
Casein Protein Isolate), Malic Acid,
Branched Chain Amino Acids (Leucine,
Isoleucine, Valine), Natural Flavors,
Vitamin Blend (Ascorbic Acid,
Niacinamide, d-Calcium Pantothenate,
Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin,
Thiamin Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Biotin,
Cyanocobalamin), Acesulfame
Potassium, Sucralose, FD

[240 is Back]

This product is junk just like the rest of the stuff Body Fortress makes.Trust me if you did a Lab Assay on there protein you would be shocked.
As for this protein "SHOT" the first ingredient,which means what the products main ingredient is just happens to be Collagen protein, which is garbage.
Its make from the skin, bones tendons, and all the left overs from an animal.Its also known as Geltain protein.It can help with joint problems in some cases, but is pretty much useless for building, muscle.
Its very inexpensive, thats why mosy of these protein shots contains this garbage.Yes this product is conveneint and cheap, but it is not a good product for building or repairing muscle.
Here are the ingredients.I am willing to be if I assayed this producty it would probably would have no more then 10 grams of protein.

Ingredients: Purified Water, Proprietary
Protein Blend
(Hydrolyzed Collagenic Protein Isolate, Whey Protein Isolate,
Casein Protein Isolate), Malic Acid,
Branched Chain Amino Acids (Leucine,
Isoleucine, Valine), Natural Flavors,
Vitamin Blend (Ascorbic Acid,
Niacinamide, d-Calcium Pantothenate,
Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin,
Thiamin Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Biotin,
Cyanocobalamin), Acesulfame
Potassium, Sucralose, FD

John,

Are you saying this cannot be done?

35 grams of protein in a 4 ounce shot

[GetItOnNY]

It can be done, but considering the company Body Fortress, and that there using Collagen protein as there main ingredient, the chances are slim.Body Fortress, sells to Walmart.Now I know for a fact Body Fortress doest do there own blending or manufacturing.So how is it that they sell products as cheap as they do?
First the blender-manufacturer, makes the product for Body Fortress, which is usually about 30% profit industry standard.Then Body Fortress, has to sell to WalMart, 90% of the companies I know make 100% markup if not more.Then lastly Walmart has to make a profit which has to be atleast 25-30%.
So how does a company sell 2lbs of protein powder so cheap? Walmart sells there Body Fotress protein for less then most stores pay wholesale for there whey protein.Explain that to me.
Rob there is no protein fairy, but there is such thing as cheap protein powders.Whey protein can range anywhere from $1 per lb to 10lb per lb, depending on the percentage of Whey Protein Concentrate- Isolate it is.
A 35% Whey protein Concentrate, will run about $1 per lb, which is what alot of lower end protein companies use.Then you have the 93-95% Whey Protein Isolate, that are triple Micro -Cross flow, Filtered, that can cost as much as $10 per lb.You get what you pay for.In this industry if it sounds to good to be to it usually is.
I just might have to drive down to WalMart and buy one of these cheap bottles of protein and have it lab Assayed.I gurantee, it will come out short.They are probably using a 35-50% Whey protein Concentrrate.
Thats the only way they are making any money

[240 is Back]

It can be done, but considering the company Body Fortress, and that there using Collagen protein as there main ingredient, the chances are slim.Body Fortress, sells to Walmart.Now I know for a fact Body Fortress doest do there own blending or manufacturing.So how is it that they sell products as cheap as they do?
First the blender-manufacturer, makes the product for Body Fortress, which is usually about 30% profit industry standard.Then Body Fortress, has to sell to WalMart, 90% of the companies I know make 100% markup if not more.Then lastly Walmart has to make a profit which has to be atleast 25-30%.
So how does a company sell 2lbs of protein powder so cheap? Walmart sells there Body Fotress protein for less then most stores pay wholesale for there whey protein.Explain that to me.
Rob there is no protein fairy, but there is such thing as cheap protein powders.Whey protein can range anywhere from $1 per lb to 10lb per lb, depending on the percentage of Whey Protein Concentrate- Isolate it is.
A 35% Whey protein Concentrate, will run about $1 per lb, which is what alot of lower end protein companies use.Then you have the 93-95% Whey Protein Isolate, that are triple Micro -Cross flow, Filtered, that can cost as much as $10 per lb.You get what you pay for.In this industry if it sounds to good to be to it usually is.
I just might have to drive down to WalMart and buy one of these cheap bottles of protein and have it lab Assayed.I gurantee, it will come out short.They are probably using a 35-50% Whey protein Concentrrate.
Thats the only way they are making any money

I can get a name-brand protein bar for $2.
You're telling me they can put 35 grams in a protein bar for that price, but can't put it in a liquid?

I'm obviously not an expert... but I do think *someone* will find a way.  If WMT can do it with their poor ingredients, I'm betting someone reading this can do it with superior ingredients and ingenuity.  Maybe it'll cost $3 per 'shot' in the beginning.  Then maybe someone else will innovate another way and get it down to $2.25... it wont' be long until you guys find a way.

[240 is Back]

If WalMart is already doing it, why do we give two shits whether or not the supporters of oiled men in thongs are doing it too?

Oily thong proteinmasters do it better.

[GetItOnNY]

Rob, trust me you dont want to assay any of those so called protein bars.
I am not saying you cannot put that much protein in 2.9 oz, but it depends on the compnay whose making it, and the kind of protein they are using.Now if was done by True Protein, AST Research, BioPlex, or any other trusted company it would be possible

[240 is Back]

[tbombz]

Rob, trust me you dont want to assay any of those so called protein bars.
I am not saying you cannot put that much protein in 2.9 oz, but it depends on the compnay whose making it, and the kind of protein they are using.Now if was done by True Protein, AST Research, BioPlex, or any other trusted company it would be possible

shut up dumbass you and your "company" are the sterreotypical supplement company that doesnt know shit abotu real supplements and real facts and sells bullshit products that dont match labels claims. like how your "whey isolate" fucked up flexingtons steeles stomach.   bitch.

[GetItOnNY]

T-BOMBZ We stand behind our products 100%.I am not going to go on this board bashing anybody, but flexingsteel, is not being honest.He never ever bought our product from bodybuilding.com.He basically lied.I publically told him if he could prove he actually bought the product, and returned it with some kind of proof, I would give him a free bottle of protein or fat burners.He said he didnt have any record of the transaction.Thats when I pulled some strings, and got his personal information, I got his name adrdess, & address etc etc.Then I called bodybuilding.com and had them look up all his transactions.He never bought any of our protein ever from bodybuilding.com, nor did anybody living at his residence.He lied.Why he lied who knows.Yes I really do have he personal information, but I will not post any of it, out of respect for him.Even though he bashing my company, and made up sladerish lies, I will not sink to his level.
Listen I dont come on this board, spamming or pushing my company, I just come here to B.S. just like everybody else.I have independent lab assays on my Nitro 92 aviable to the public at anytime.
Hve a Happy and prospeour new year.

[tbombz]

T-BOMBZ We stand behind our products 100%.I am not going to go on this board bashing anybody, but flexingsteel, is not being honest.He never ever bought our product from bodybuilding.com.He basically lied.I publically told him if he could prove he actually bought the product, and returned it with some kind of proof, I would give him a free bottle of protein or fat burners.He said he didnt have any record of the transaction.Thats when I pulled some strings, and got his personal information, I got his name adrdess, & address etc etc.Then I called bodybuilding.com and had them look up all his transactions.He never bought any of our protein ever from bodybuilding.com, nor did anybody living at his residence.He lied.Why he lied who knows.Yes I really do have he personal information, but I will not post any of it, out of respect for him.Even though he bashing my company, and made up sladerish lies, I will not sink to his level.
Listen I dont come on this board, spamming or pushing my company, I just come here to B.S. just like everybody else.I have independent lab assays on my Nitro 92 aviable to the public at anytime.
Hve a Happy and prospeour new year.

fuck you, the irony in you caliing someone else a liar  , you dont see me walking around calling people coke heads and theifs, do you? shut the fuck up

[dustin]

Dude, just buy a tub of protein and a shaker bottle and you'll have refillable protein shots FFS. Stop supporting shitty companies that use the lowest quality proteins available.

[GetItOnNY]

TBOMBZ, the guy lied.He never bought the protein, and made my company look bad.TBOMBz, are you involved with trueprotein.com? The reason I am asking is because its says 5% discount on your avatar.If you are involved with them why are you messing with me? Dante is a great guy, and runs a great company.We have done buissness together in the past.I know some of the guys over at trueprotein, Chris the office mangaer, and Carl the plant manager, are both really cool .Dante and I arent really good friends or anything but we do buissness together, and we have alot of repsect for one another.So if your going to put trueprotein discount 5% and bash me, please chill out.I dont think Dante would like you messing with one of his allies in the industry.My company is just like trueprotein.com, we arent the biggest, but we make highend products.In this industry you either put the money into making a really good product or put tons of moneyinto marketing, Muscletech,BSN,Optimum,VPX,etc etc.

[240 is Back]

Thats when I pulled some strings, and got his personal information, I got his name adrdess, & address etc etc.Then I called bodybuilding.com and had them look up all his transactions.He never bought any of our protein ever from bodybuilding.com, nor did anybody living at his residence.

Woah.

[Bluto]

what difference do you think taking a shot of 35 grams of protein do to your body vs not taking a shot of 35 grams of protein?

i tell you

NOTHING.

you will have EXACTLY the same physique 1 year, 5 years or 10 years later.

[G o a t b o y]

Woah.

Either he is lying, or you've got a whole lot of people, from Ron to flexington's ISP to BB.com doing shit they really ain't supposed to be doing without a court order. 


If I had to guess, I'd say he's lying.

[GetItOnNY]

Rob, this is the intenet.DA, got personal information of the Squadfather and sunk his ship.You have to watch who you mess swith on the internet.On the internet people have access to all kinds of sh$%4 you know that.How many people on here have been owned for openeing there mouths to much only to have there asses handed to them later.