old school ufc fans,how many miss the tournament style fights?

[gracie bjj]

i know everyones gonns say those guys couldnt compete with these guys now and all,i agree with you so now thats outta the way lets read on.i know the ufc had to modify the rules to get sanctioned and yada yada yada,but imo guys like oleg,ken,severn,tank,frye,royce,ruas ect had it harder in a sense,they fought bare knuckled,15 minutes straight fighting and fighting sometimes 4 times in a night.thats bad ass imo,i know the competition wasnt as stiff back then but they werent all bad,i miss the fights like tank against ferrozzo and royce against kimo.i highly recommend if you havent seen any old school ufc fights that you get afew,its a chance to see the how the sport evolved over the years and how it got watered down.the watered down part had to happen if the ufc wanted to get sanctioned which is basiclly getting a licence to hold your event.the reason dana doesnt like the tournament format is because he said the fans get jipped,for instance,in ufc 3(the american dream)everyone was anticipating the showdown of ken and royce who where in different brackets,it was the 8 man format not the 16,anyway royce got injured/exhaustion from fighting kimo and ken got hurt against felix lee mitchell in his second fight of the night.ken impressed me that night with his grappling skill in beating a very tough christoff leninger,a highly ranked judo champion.anyway the night ended with steve jennum beating harold(IF YOUR COMIN ON,COME ON)howard in the finals to hold the ufc title,disaster for the ufc that night imo.thats why the superfights where started,the first one was ken vs royce which was a snooze fest,ken just basiclly laid on royce and didnt attempt to pass his guard or anything,just throwin some hammerfists and an occasional haymaker.at least royce was trying things but ken just held him down,all the hype and nothing,the highlight of the fight was when they went into overtime ken caught royce on the button,nailed royce in the left eye but royce took it pretty well then it was back to lay and pray once ken pounced on him.ken had afew more superfights with severn,oleg,kimo and they where pretty good fights for ken,except maybe the oleg fight which was alittle dull.ken subbed severn and subbed kimo and pulled out a decision over oleg.the second ken vs severn fight was probably the worst fight in ufc history,i know thats a bold statement but trust me on that one,it looked like a square dance with about 2 minuts of total contact between the 2 guys.they gave the decision to dan,it couldve went either way but to be honest they should have fined them for such a poor performance and declared it a draw.then the reign of coleman started in the next ufc and alot of REAL wrestlers started seeing the dollar signs and started to train mma style,the only real way to beat the tough wrestlers was bjj,wrestlers/grapplers where just dominating the sport for the most part.sometimes even bjj wasnt enough to stop an animal like coleman or kerr in thier prime,the cage made it hard for bjj guys to move around and get in position for a submission when a 250lb beast has you pinned up against it pounding your face in,lets not forget alot of these guys where just straight bjj players who werent used to getting punched in the face,the guys from the gracie camp where used to real fights and camps like ruas vale tudo where also,but some guys werent and like the famous saying goes(everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face)lol.it was alittle after that like hybrid fighters started coming along like frank shamrock,sakuraba,vitor,militich,carlos newton ect.like i said if you have the money and time get some old tapes and you wont be dissapointed,ultimate japan in 97 imo is where everyone could see the talent pool starting to really go higher,it was a coming out party for guys like frank shammy,randy,sakuraba(sak said he wouldve fought in the ufc more but hes scared to death of flying,everytime he had to fly he had to take valiums.i read that in a interveiw with him afew years back.thanks for reading if you read this,im just bored and figured id get a topic going that some old school guy might find interesting

[Faust]

i know everyones gonns say those guys couldnt compete with these guys now and all,i agree with you so now thats outta the way lets read on.i know the ufc had to modify the rules to get sanctioned and yada yada yada,but imo guys like oleg,ken,severn,tank,frye,royce,ruas ect had it harder in a sense,they fought bare knuckled,15 minutes straight fighting and fighting sometimes 4 times in a night.thats bad ass imo,i know the competition wasnt as stiff back then but they werent all bad,i miss the fights like tank against ferrozzo and royce against kimo.i highly recommend if you havent seen any old school ufc fights that you get afew,its a chance to see the how the sport evolved over the years and how it got watered down.the watered down part had to happen if the ufc wanted to get sanctioned which is basiclly getting a licence to hold your event.the reason dana doesnt like the tournament format is because he said the fans get jipped,for instance,in ufc 3(the american dream)everyone was anticipating the showdown of ken and royce who where in different brackets,it was the 8 man format not the 16,anyway royce got injured/exhaustion from fighting kimo and ken got hurt against felix lee mitchell in his second fight of the night.ken impressed me that night with his grappling skill in beating a very tough christoff leninger,a highly ranked judo champion.anyway the night ended with steve jennum beating harold(IF YOUR COMIN ON,COME ON)howard in the finals to hold the ufc title,disaster for the ufc that night imo.thats why the superfights where started,the first one was ken vs royce which was a snooze fest,ken just basiclly laid on royce and didnt attempt to pass his guard or anything,just throwin some hammerfists and an occasional haymaker.at least royce was trying things but ken just held him down,all the hype and nothing,the highlight of the fight was when they went into overtime ken caught royce on the button,nailed royce in the left eye but royce took it pretty well then it was back to lay and pray once ken pounced on him.ken had afew more superfights with severn,oleg,kimo and they where pretty good fights for ken,except maybe the oleg fight which was alittle dull.ken subbed severn and subbed kimo and pulled out a decision over oleg.the second ken vs severn fight was probably the worst fight in ufc history,i know thats a bold statement but trust me on that one,it looked like a square dance with about 2 minuts of total contact between the 2 guys.they gave the decision to dan,it couldve went either way but to be honest they should have fined them for such a poor performance and declared it a draw.then the reign of coleman started in the next ufc and alot of REAL wrestlers started seeing the dollar signs and started to train mma style,the only real way to beat the tough wrestlers was bjj,wrestlers/grapplers where just dominating the sport for the most part.sometimes even bjj wasnt enough to stop an animal like coleman or kerr in thier prime,the cage made it hard for bjj guys to move around and get in position for a submission when a 250lb beast has you pinned up against it pounding your face in,lets not forget alot of these guys where just straight bjj players who werent used to getting punched in the face,the guys from the gracie camp where used to real fights and camps like ruas vale tudo where also,but some guys werent and like the famous saying goes(everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face)lol.it was alittle after that like hybrid fighters started coming along like frank shamrock,sakuraba,vitor,militich,carlos newton ect.like i said if you have the money and time get some old tapes and you wont be dissapointed,ultimate japan in 97 imo is where everyone could see the talent pool starting to really go higher,it was a coming out party for guys like frank shammy,randy,sakuraba(sak said he wouldve fought in the ufc more but hes scared to death of flying,everytime he had to fly he had to take valiums.i read that in a interveiw with him afew years back.thanks for reading if you read this,im just bored and figured id get a topic going that some old school guy might find interesting

Seriously? Do you think anyone is gonna read that?

[gracie bjj]

 im sure someone bored at work might read it,ive read longer post then that when i was bored at work.

[chaos]

I'm not going to read it all, but I think they should bring back that tourny style with weight limits.

[Earl1972]

pride did the tourney's and yes I miss them

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[The Master]

pride did the tourney's and yes I miss them

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Fedors old pride fights = teh bomb.

[Fury]

The grand prixs were awesome. Having the semi's and finals in the same night was great. Took some serious conditioning and roid use to be able to do that. The grand prix's were always good for great fights to as all the best fighters were in them. None of this bullshit we see today.

[The Master]

The grand prixs were awesome. Having the semi's and finals in the same night was great. Took some serious conditioning and roid use to be able to do that. The grand prix's were always good for great fights to as all the best fighters were in them. None of this bullshit we see today.

A big problem with the UFC is that they test for roids.

[Fury]

A big problem with the UFC is that they test for roids.

That and the athletic commissions require a certain amount of time off between fights, thus making the possibility fighting twice in one night pretty much zero. 

[Captain Equipoise]

1) Ahhhh...my eyes!!! dude, for fuck's sake, have you ever heard of proper sentences and/or paragraph's !?!

2) I agree, that was my favourite thing about Pride, the open weight grand prix/tourney's, I miss those days!

3) athletic commission = nazi's, they take all the fun out of fighting.

[spinnis]

i know everyones gonns say those guys couldnt compete with these guys now and all,i agree with you so now thats outta the way lets read on.i know the ufc had to modify the rules to get sanctioned and yada yada yada,but imo guys like oleg,ken,severn,tank,frye,royce,ruas ect had it harder in a sense,they fought bare knuckled,15 minutes straight fighting and fighting sometimes 4 times in a night.thats bad ass imo,



I know the competition wasnt as stiff back then but they werent all bad,i miss the fights like tank against ferrozzo and royce against kimo.i highly recommend if you havent seen any old school ufc fights that you get afew,its a chance to see the how the sport evolved over the years and how it got watered down.the watered down part had to happen if the ufc wanted to get sanctioned which is basiclly getting a licence to hold your event.the reason dana doesnt like the tournament format is because he said the fans get jipped,for instance,in ufc 3(the american dream)everyone was anticipating the showdown of ken and royce who where in different brackets,it was the 8 man format not the 16,anyway royce got injured/exhaustion from fighting kimo and ken got hurt against felix lee mitchell in his second fight of the night.ken impressed me that night with his grappling skill in beating a very tough christoff leninger,a highly ranked judo champion.anyway the night ended with steve jennum beating harold(IF YOUR COMIN ON,COME ON)howard in the finals to hold the ufc title,disaster for the ufc that night imo.thats why the superfights where started,


The first one was ken vs royce which was a snooze fest,ken just basiclly laid on royce and didnt attempt to pass his guard or anything,just throwin some hammerfists and an occasional haymaker.at least royce was trying things but ken just held him down,all the hype and nothing,the highlight of the fight was when they went into overtime ken caught royce on the button,nailed royce in the left eye but royce took it pretty well then it was back to lay and pray once ken pounced on him.ken had afew more superfights with severn,oleg,kimo and they where pretty good fights for ken,except maybe the oleg fight which was alittle dull.ken subbed severn and subbed kimo and pulled out a decision over oleg.the second ken vs severn fight was probably the worst fight in ufc history,i know thats a bold statement but trust me on that one,it looked like a square dance with about 2 minuts of total contact between the 2 guys.they gave the decision to dan,it couldve went either way but to be honest they should have fined them for such a poor performance and declared it a draw.


Then the reign of coleman started in the next ufc and alot of REAL wrestlers started seeing the dollar signs and started to train mma style,the only real way to beat the tough wrestlers was bjj,wrestlers/grapplers where just dominating the sport for the most part.sometimes even bjj wasnt enough to stop an animal like coleman or kerr in thier prime,the cage made it hard for bjj guys to move around and get in position for a submission when a 250lb beast has you pinned up against it pounding your face in,lets not forget alot of these guys where just straight bjj players who werent used to getting punched in the face,the guys from the gracie camp where used to real fights and camps like ruas vale tudo where also,but some guys werent and like the famous saying goes(everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face)lol.it was alittle after that like hybrid fighters started coming along like frank shamrock,sakuraba,vitor,militich,carlos newton ect.


Like i said if you have the money and time get some old tapes and you wont be dissapointed,ultimate japan in 97 imo is where everyone could see the talent pool starting to really go higher,it was a coming out party for guys like frank shammy,randy,sakuraba(sak said he wouldve fought in the ufc more but hes scared to death of flying,everytime he had to fly he had to take valiums.i read that in a interveiw with him afew years back.thanks for reading if you read this,im just bored and figured id get a topic going that some old school guy might find interesting

[Migs]

i know everyones gonns say those guys couldnt compete with these guys now and all,i agree with you so now thats outta the way lets read on.i know the ufc had to modify the rules to get sanctioned and yada yada yada,but imo guys like oleg,ken,severn,tank,frye,royce,ruas ect had it harder in a sense,they fought bare knuckled,15 minutes straight fighting and fighting sometimes 4 times in a night.thats bad ass imo,i know the competition wasnt as stiff back then but they werent all bad,i miss the fights like tank against ferrozzo and royce against kimo.i highly recommend if you havent seen any old school ufc fights that you get afew,its a chance to see the how the sport evolved over the years and how it got watered down.the watered down part had to happen if the ufc wanted to get sanctioned which is basiclly getting a licence to hold your event.the reason dana doesnt like the tournament format is because he said the fans get jipped,for instance,in ufc 3(the american dream)everyone was anticipating the showdown of ken and royce who where in different brackets,it was the 8 man format not the 16,anyway royce got injured/exhaustion from fighting kimo and ken got hurt against felix lee mitchell in his second fight of the night.ken impressed me that night with his grappling skill in beating a very tough christoff leninger,a highly ranked judo champion.anyway the night ended with steve jennum beating harold(IF YOUR COMIN ON,COME ON)howard in the finals to hold the ufc title,disaster for the ufc that night imo.thats why the superfights where started,the first one was ken vs royce which was a snooze fest,ken just basiclly laid on royce and didnt attempt to pass his guard or anything,just throwin some hammerfists and an occasional haymaker.at least royce was trying things but ken just held him down,all the hype and nothing,the highlight of the fight was when they went into overtime ken caught royce on the button,nailed royce in the left eye but royce took it pretty well then it was back to lay and pray once ken pounced on him.ken had afew more superfights with severn,oleg,kimo and they where pretty good fights for ken,except maybe the oleg fight which was alittle dull.ken subbed severn and subbed kimo and pulled out a decision over oleg.the second ken vs severn fight was probably the worst fight in ufc history,i know thats a bold statement but trust me on that one,it looked like a square dance with about 2 minuts of total contact between the 2 guys.they gave the decision to dan,it couldve went either way but to be honest they should have fined them for such a poor performance and declared it a draw.then the reign of coleman started in the next ufc and alot of REAL wrestlers started seeing the dollar signs and started to train mma style,the only real way to beat the tough wrestlers was bjj,wrestlers/grapplers where just dominating the sport for the most part.sometimes even bjj wasnt enough to stop an animal like coleman or kerr in thier prime,the cage made it hard for bjj guys to move around and get in position for a submission when a 250lb beast has you pinned up against it pounding your face in,lets not forget alot of these guys where just straight bjj players who werent used to getting punched in the face,the guys from the gracie camp where used to real fights and camps like ruas vale tudo where also,but some guys werent and like the famous saying goes(everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face)lol.it was alittle after that like hybrid fighters started coming along like frank shamrock,sakuraba,vitor,militich,carlos newton ect.like i said if you have the money and time get some old tapes and you wont be dissapointed,ultimate japan in 97 imo is where everyone could see the talent pool starting to really go higher,it was a coming out party for guys like frank shammy,randy,sakuraba(sak said he wouldve fought in the ufc more but hes scared to death of flying,everytime he had to fly he had to take valiums.i read that in a interveiw with him afew years back.thanks for reading if you read this,im just bored and figured id get a topic going that some old school guy might find interesting

Dude I enjoy your posts, always informative.  But hot damn can you write them in paragraph form!  But yes i do miss the tourney style at times.

[gracie bjj]

i know my typing sucks but im working on it,im cutting back on my xanax these days,maybe that will help

[johnny1]

pride did the tourney's and yes I miss them

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[LatsMcGee]

Zuffa should just have one tournament once a year under a fake banner overseas.  This way the athletic commissions can't say shit and the fans have something to look forward too.  Make it one weight class every year. 

[Migs]

i know my typing sucks but im working on it,im cutting back on my xanax these days,maybe that will help

it's cool man, just hit the ener key once in a while. lol

I would like to see a tourney event once a year.  Hell that format might even attract some of the wrestling fans to see it.  UFC Royal Rumble!

[Captain Equipoise]

Zuffa should just have one tournament once a year under a fake banner overseas.  This way the athletic commissions can't say shit and the fans have something to look forward too.  Make it one weight class every year. 

That would be fucking awesome!!! that was honestly my favourite thing about Pride, love the open weight GP's