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Re: Teacher Fired for Marrying Divorced Man to Sue Catholic School
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2009, 02:04:03 AM »
Both Straw Man & Beach Bum are correct.

Straw Man in his assertion the catholic church is made up of a bunch of idiots,
...and BeachBum in his assertion that rules are rules. Of course he forgets that her husband's marriage was annulled, which according to the rules of catholicism, didn't exist. Therefore, she was fired for no reason.

I hope she sues, ...and gets millions.
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Re: Teacher Fired for Marrying Divorced Man to Sue Catholic School
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2009, 07:20:35 AM »
you mean the blank space at the end of my last post?  I don't know why that happened.  Do I really "always" do that?

The quote from the brother in the article specifies the policies are for Catholic people on their faculty which seems to cleary imply that it does matter what church they attend.....specifically the Catholic church.





what part don't you get?






regarding the non-Catholic members of the faculty there's a good chance that some of them are divorced.   

why 50/50?

Don't half of all marriages end in divorce?
LOL see this post had spaces in it too but only like 3 the last post had like 8 wtf is that all about?

if you read the last part of the quote you posted it also says "When a person does something that is obviously contrary to everything that our Catholic school stands for, we cannot just look through our fingers.” This statement in no way applies to just catholic teachers and therefore she is just as responsible for it as others.

No 50% percent of marriages dont end in divorce that number is greatly exaggerated the actual number is in the mid to high 30's.


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Re: Teacher Fired for Marrying Divorced Man to Sue Catholic School
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2009, 07:52:59 AM »
LOL see this post had spaces in it too but only like 3 the last post had like 8 wtf is that all about?

if you read the last part of the quote you posted it also says "When a person does something that is obviously contrary to everything that our Catholic school stands for, we cannot just look through our fingers.” This statement in no way applies to just catholic teachers and therefore she is just as responsible for it as others.

No 50% percent of marriages dont end in divorce that number is greatly exaggerated the actual number is in the mid to high 30's.

Nothing gets by you eh?

The spaces were intentional this time.  I don't know why they were there last time.

Are we really going to keep parsing this quote?

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“We have very clear policies on what we expect from Catholic people on our faculty, and there has been a violation of that,” Brother Peter Pontolillo told the Express-News. “When a person does something that is obviously contrary to everything that our Catholic school stands for, we cannot just look through our fingers.”


So you think when he specifies "Catholic people on our faculty" in the first sentence that it has no significance on the meaning of the word "person" in the second sentence".   If so, why even bother saying the first sentence?

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Re: Teacher Fired for Marrying Divorced Man to Sue Catholic School
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2009, 07:59:37 AM »
Nothing gets by you eh?

The spaces were intentional this time.  I don't know why they were there last time.

Are we really going to keep parsing this quote?

So you think when he specifies "Catholic people on our faculty" in the first sentence that it has no significance on the meaning of the word "person" in the second sentence".   If so, why even bother saying the first sentence?
LOL you trying to screw with my head?

Could it maybe, you really think that the school doesnt have a code of conduct which it expects its teachers to follow? Again probably a blanket statement refferring to upholding the teachings of the school

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Re: Teacher Fired for Marrying Divorced Man to Sue Catholic School
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2009, 08:00:55 AM »
Exactly.  It doesn't matter what her religious faith is.  If she wants to teach at a Catholic school she has to follow whatever rules the Catholic church imposes, which she must have accepted at the time she started working for the school.  If she had a problem with the rules she shouldn't have taken the job. 

This is how religious organizations work.  For example, if you want to teach at a Mormon school, you follow their guidelines.  If you want to attend BYU, you abide by their code of conduct. 

The only potential issue is whether they treat all employees the same:

“As a general matter, religious institutions are free to engage in religious discrimination in employment,” said Ira C. Lupu, a professor of law at the George Washington University Law School. “The question is, are they applying the policy consistently? I think the point about consistency is very important.”

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/education/Central_Catholic_teacher_terminated_over_marriage.html

Here's is where they will probably get stuck.

What are the odd's that they applied this same level of scrutinity and punishment to all faculty members, most especially those that are practising Catholics.  Any inconsistency and they're probably screwed.

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Re: Teacher Fired for Marrying Divorced Man to Sue Catholic School
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2009, 08:06:26 AM »
LOL you trying to screw with my head?

Could it maybe, you really think that the school doesnt have a code of conduct which it expects its teachers to follow? Again probably a blanket statement refferring to upholding the teachings of the school

Dude - the brother being quoted specifies Catholic faculty members and from reading other articles the "beef" seems to be that she attended mass as the school and received communion (this being the crux of the matter).  She ate their magic cookie.


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Re: Teacher Fired for Marrying Divorced Man to Sue Catholic School
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2009, 08:09:59 AM »
Here's is where they will probably get stuck.

What are the odd's that they applied this same level of scrutinity and punishment to all faculty members, most especially those that are practising Catholics.  Any inconsistency and they're probably screwed.
i agree with you but we dont know their history, here is the irony if they dont apply the same rules to catholic as non catholic members is that consistent?

Dude - the brother being quoted specifies Catholic faculty members and from reading other articles the "beef" seems to be that she attended mass as the school and received communion (this being the crux of the matter).  She ate their magic cookie.
LOL magic cookie, im not catholic but from what i understand you only take communion if you are catholic sooo....

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Re: Teacher Fired for Marrying Divorced Man to Sue Catholic School
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2009, 04:28:51 PM »
More bullshit from a corrupt "church" that allowed pedo priests to fvck little boys in the ass.

Fvck the Catholic church.


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Re: Teacher Fired for Marrying Divorced Man to Sue Catholic School
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2009, 04:37:04 PM »
Wow.  Considering private catholic school teachers make 2/3 of what their public school counterparts make, you'd think the school would have more sense than to chase away teachers.  This woman did nothing wrong, except for fall in love with someone whose past marriage didn't work.

There are teachers out there who scream at students, visit kiddy porn sites, and waste a lot of taxpayer dollars with overall sloth, and they'll all still have jobs tomorrow.  This woman, who fell in love with a man who didn't marry the right woman the first time, will not.

Pretty messed up.  Some ppl still live in the stone age, I suppose.  They'll replace her with someone who's trapped in a loveless marriage, or someone alone, who will better fit their criteria and be a lot less happy teaching.  The kids lose.

Sad but true I guess.  :P
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Re: Teacher Fired for Marrying Divorced Man to Sue Catholic School
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2009, 04:40:11 PM »
More bullshit from a corrupt "church" that allowed pedo priests to fvck little boys in the ass.

Fvck the Catholic church.

I hate to say it, but....


Good post
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