Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???

[The GodFather]

Bump for an answer,Why have that LAUGHABLE Fukin Drug Rule Fukkas???

[donation]

asking Bob Chicherello anything about enforcing a drug rule is like asking a george bush about the geneva convention..

Bob has broken the law time and time again, in the name of bigger muscles without so much as a care for the "IFBB rules"
shooting illegal drugs in his ass was his ticket to fame, so I doubt he would speak out against their use.

Your 2 points are your own opinion, perhaps they (IFBB) have a different one...just as fans could generally give a shit what the players are doing in ANY sport...they want to see quality sports and scoring...period.  The second point is pure conjecture and moot....

[The GodFather]

asking Bob Chicherello anything about enforcing a drug rule is like asking a george bush about the geneva convention..

Bob has broken the law time and time again, in the name of bigger muscles without so much as a care for the "IFBB rules"
shooting illegal drugs in his ass was his ticket to fame, so I doubt he would speak out against their use.

GREAT POINT.

[Chick]

Bump for an answer,Why have that LAUGHABLE Fukin Drug Rule Fukkas???

It's been answered quite a few times...not my problem that you cant comprehend it.

[Mr. Magoo]

It's been answered quite a few times...not my problem that you cant comprehend it.

Bob I hate to be a jerk, but do you ever question your morals and ethics living and supporting such a decietful sport? I'm friends and have trained with several NPC bodybuilders, one of which was suppose to compete at the nationals this year but due to back problems had to postpone it, and they've even told me that nobody in the npc is natural and that its all bullshit. I mean you seem like a great guy, but why be involved in this? What do you tell yourself to justify it? And I hope its more than the old "do wat ya gotta do" cliche, i really hope its more than that...

You can call me a moron, idiot, trash, pencilneck, or whatnot, but i'm just asking from one person to another.

[Chick]

Bob I hate to be a jerk, but do you ever question your morals and ethics living and supporting such a decietful sport? I'm friends and have trained with several NPC bodybuilders, one of which was suppose to compete at the nationals this year but due to back problems had to postpone it, and they've even told me that nobody in the npc is natural and that its all bullshit. I mean you seem like a great guy, but why be involved in this? What do you tell yourself to justify it? And I hope its more than the old "do wat ya gotta do" cliche, i really hope its more than that...

You can call me a moron, idiot, trash, pencilneck, or whatnot, but i'm just asking from one person to another.

No, I dont.

What do you find "deceitful" about it?

No one said everyone in ther NPC (or any other federation) WAS natural.....if people want to go in Natural shows...all the power to them

[JimmyJam1974]

YOU HAVE TO SLEEP SOMETIME FUKKA.MELTTHEFUKDOWN CHICK YOU FUKIN CHILD.

[Chick]

Noy a problem...hell be gone by morning

[The GodFather]

Keep trying you Girlie Boy Sook.Scram Genius

[Playboy]

for fuccks sake man just let it die already, this shit is getting ponderous.

Agreed.

[DK II]

I posted the official IFBB drug test a few times on this board.

It goes somewhat like this:


1) What steroids are best for cutting

a) Deca
b) Testosterone
c) Dianabol
d) Winstrol

2) What Steroids are best for building mass

a) Trenbolone
b) Dianabol
c) Testosterone
d) Boldenone

3) Is Clenbuterol a steroid?

a) Yes
b) No
c) I don't give a shit, i'll take it anyways

4) You are on your way to a competition in a land far away, and you realize you will need steroids there as well. What do you do?

a) The hell with customs, i'll pack a bag of Viagra and shit!!
b) No need to bring stuff, Milos is already there!
c) I inject the next weeks HGH, Insulin, Steroids in one sitting.



I heard that the guys who score over 80% are in the Mr O competition. 

[Playboy]

I posted the official IFBB drug test a few times on this board.

It goes somewhat like this:


1) What steroids are best for cutting

a) Deca
b) Testosterone
c) Dianabol
d) Winstrol

2) What Steroids are best for building mass

a) Trenbolone
b) Dianabol
c) Testosterone
d) Boldenone

3) Is Clenbuterol a steroid?

a) Yes
b) No
c) I don't give a shit, i'll take it anyways

4) You are on your way to a competition in a land far away, and you realize you will need steroids there as well. What do you do?

a) The hell with customs, i'll pack a bag of Viagra and shit!!
b) No need to bring stuff, Milos is already there!
c) I inject the next weeks HGH, Insulin, Steroids in one sitting.



I heard that the guys who score over 80% are in the Mr O competition. 

And top 10!

[donation]

No, I dont.

What do you find "deceitful" about it?

Deceitful = Ben weider claiming the IFBB conducts drug testing, with 100% of pros are juiced to the gills, and some IFBB amateurs.

Deceitful = NPC team universe being billed as a "drug tested" contest with no drug test except for the winner.

No one said everyone in ther NPC (or any other federation) WAS natural.....if people want to go in Natural shows...all the power to them

[Chick]

The IFBB does conduct drug tests...especially in the amateur division.

Team Universe is drug tested, as you pointed out.

[DK II]

The IFBB does conduct drug tests...especially only randomly in the amateur division.

Team Universe is drug tested, as you pointed out.

fixed

[donation]

drug testing of 1% of the contestants and calling it a "drug tested / natural show" is deceitful.

Testing (and poorly at that) a few random IFBB amateurs does not equate to the IFBB following its "drug testing policy" to state that it does is also deceitful.

The IFBB does conduct drug tests...especially in the amateur division.

Team Universe is drug tested, as you pointed out.

[Chick]

drug testing of 1% of the contestants and calling it a "drug tested / natural show" is deceitful.

Testing (and poorly at that) a few random IFBB amateurs does not equate to the IFBB following its "drug testing policy" to state that it does is also deceitful.

You would be correct if it was stated that EVERYONE, or 100%, etc...would be tested. No where does that exsist

You're incorrect with your statement.

[donation]

So in the rule book each policy/rule must be preceded with "this applies to 100 % of the members" to be enforced?

Your logic further proves that the IFBB rule book (which contains the policy) is a joke.

Ben Weider blatantly lying to the IOC about the "IFBB's rigorous drug test policy" did him no favors in realizing his dream.

You would be correct if it was stated that EVERYONE, or 100%, etc...would be tested. No where does that exsist

You're incorrect with your statement.

[DK II]

Chick, do you think we are stupid? Please start random offseason drug tests and testing the first 3 places only in every contest and we all know the drug infested "sport" of BB would be dead.

[Chick]

So in the rule book each policy/rule must be preceded with "this applies to 100 % of the members" to be enforced?

Your logic further proves that the IFBB rule book (which contains the policy) is a joke.

Ben Weider blatantly lying to the IOC about the "IFBB's rigorous drug test policy" did him no favors in realizing his dream.

The rules are quite clear, and spelled out. Take a look at them if you need to educate yourself on how easily interpreted they are....

Ben Weider didn't have to lie about the drug testing...the "dream" was never realized due to the fact that there isn't any required elements to be judged on....drugs/ testing never had anything to do with it, as the athletes would have been subject to the same IOC testing as every other athlete

[Chick]

Chick, do you think we are stupid? Please start random offseason drug tests and testing the first 3 places only in every contest and we all know the drug infested "sport" of BB would be dead.

Which has what to do with the discussion?  No one is arguing about whether or not the sport would be dead or not...

Start another thread...

[DK II]

Bodybuilding could not exist under IOC testing. Also, its not a sport but a beauty pageant.

[DK II]

Bodybuilding and drug tests are like fire and water.

[donation]

Your interpretation of the IFBB drug testing policy (i.e. it only applies some of the time)
also means that other rules are applied when convenient.

Ben didn't have to lie, but he did. Repeatedly. Looked quite foolish doing so.

The role of drugs in the IFBB's pariah status with the IOC can't be swept under the rug, despite your noble efforts.

Once a drug addict, always a drug addiction defender.

The rules are quite clear, and spelled out. Take a look at them if you need to educate yourself on how easily interpreted they are....

Ben Weider didn't have to lie about the drug testing...the "dream" was never realized due to the fact that there isn't any required elements to be judged on....drugs/ testing never had anything to do with it, as the athletes would have been subject to the same IOC testing as every other athlete

[Miss Karen]

Which has what to do with the discussion?  No one is arguing about whether or not the sport would be dead or not...

Start another thread...

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