I don't think people ever said there was nothing in there, definitely the ones I did were dosed adequately as compared to say norma deca for the deca and primotestin and sust for the tests (test e, sus), the issue was too much incosistency for me, and the fact that they were suspect as far as bacterial contamination because the sachets themselves maybe aren't sterlized or they reacted with the alcohol or water in the sachet in some bad way as to make the shots more painful and problem prone when injecting. That was the problem I had with them. I personally thought the first experience I had with them was great, and when I added more components and over time the quality dropped on the brand I had. I'll stay away from them until I hear that they have been thoroughly sampled and approved by the masses.
I've not done alin's but I've heard mixed things about those as well.