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Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« on: January 13, 2009, 03:43:47 PM »
These people never learn.  More wasted tax dollars on partisan witch hunts.   ::)

Jan 13, 5:47 PM EST
Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'

By LARRY MARGASAK
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The incoming Obama administration should launch a criminal investigation of Bush administration officials to see whether they broke the law in the name of national security, a House Democratic report said Tuesday. President-elect Barack Obama has been more cautious on the issue and has not endorsed such a recommendation.

Along with the criminal probe, the report called for a Sept. 11-style commission with subpoena power, to gather facts and make recommendations on preventing misuse of power, according to the report by the Democratic staff of the House Judiciary Committee.

The report covers Bush administration policies that Democrats have protested for some time. Among them: interrogation of foreign detainees, warrantless wiretaps, retribution against critics, manipulation of intelligence and political dismissals of U.S. attorneys.

The White House was asked for comment on the report Tuesday, but did not immediately respond.

However, in an interview this month with The Associated Press, Vice President Dick Cheney said, "I can't speak for everybody in the administration, but my view would be that the people who carried out that program - intelligence surveillance program, the enhanced interrogation program, with respect to al Qaeda captives - in fact were authorized to do what they did ... ."

Cheney said legal opinions supported the officials.

"And I believe they followed those legal opinions and I don't have any reason to believe that they did anything wrong or inappropriate," the vice president said.

Obama said last week in a television interview, "We're still evaluating how we're going to approach the whole issue of interrogations, detentions and so forth. And obviously we're going to be looking at past practices and I don't believe that anybody is above the law. On the other hand I also have a belief that we need to look forward as opposed to looking backwards."

Obama said intelligence officials were "extraordinarily talented people who are working very hard to keep Americans safe. I don't want them to suddenly feel like they've got to spend all their time looking over their shoulders and lawyering."

Obama said he has not made a final decision about a Sept. 11-type commission.

The criminal probe may need a special prosecutor named by the attorney general, the report said.

An alternative would be expansion of an existing investigation into the CIA's alleged destruction of a tape or tapes showing harsh interrogation methods against a prisoner.

The criminal investigation would include issues apart from national security, such as whether laws were violated in the politically inspired firing of U.S. attorneys.

Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said his staff has met with the Obama transition officials on the report. The president-elect's transition team has not endorsed it.

The congressionally appointed commission should have subpoena power, the report said. It suggested the new president order "full cooperation by all present and past federal employees with requests for information."

Conyers already has introduced legislation to form the commission.

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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2009, 12:47:38 AM »
If they think they could pin him for the shit he's done than great. 
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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2009, 12:56:03 AM »
Libs will never get it.

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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2009, 12:58:09 AM »
If they've been doing things like wire tapping American citizens without a warrant they need to pay big time.

Do you disagree Coach?
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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2009, 02:04:10 AM »
O will pardon bush

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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2009, 03:48:42 AM »

Can anyone name a person that has been illegally wiretapped by order of the Bush administration??
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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2009, 04:24:44 AM »
Can anyone name a person that has been illegally wiretapped by order of the Bush administration??


Are you fucking stupid?  ???
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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2009, 04:35:14 AM »
P.S. Always sickening to see people like you flying the flag of another country.  :-X

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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2009, 05:14:13 AM »
Are you fucking stupid?  ???


Your intelligence is overwhelming.  I'm impressed.

Now, do you care to answer the question or would you rather continue acting like a child??

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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2009, 05:32:23 AM »
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Under this program, referred to by the Bush administration as the "terrorist surveillance program",[1] the NSA is authorized by executive order to monitor, without warrants, phone calls, e-mails, Internet activity, and text messaging,
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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2009, 05:32:51 AM »
If they think they could pin him for the shit he's done than great. 


More than anything else, the illegal alien invasion this disgrace put on us is his biggest crime.  

The Bailout next.    

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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2009, 05:33:57 AM »
P.S. Always sickening to see people like you flying the flag of another country.  :-X



These people need to go home.  I am sick of these cry baby illegal alien invaders.

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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2009, 05:34:12 AM »
More than anything else, the illegal alien invasion this disgrace put on us is his biggest crime.  

The Bailout next.    

You're right, but disregarding the constitution is also a giant one.  :-X
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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2009, 05:35:37 AM »
These people need to go home.  I am sick of these cry baby illegal alien invaders.

invaders is right
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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2009, 06:35:15 AM »

Ok, so you can't name anyone.  That's fine, it's ok to admit it.



You're right, but disregarding the constitution is also a giant one.  :-X


How have your rights been affected??  Be specific.



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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2009, 06:42:53 AM »
I've been screaming about this for years...name me some law abiding citizen who was harmed...name them...point to the law suit and then we can debate it. What camps have been set up, who's being tortured, who's an American....NOBODY.
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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2009, 06:48:25 AM »

You're correct.

I'm sure the debate will end here. 
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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2009, 06:54:06 AM »
I've been screaming about this for years...name me some law abiding citizen who was harmed...name them...point to the law suit and then we can debate it. What camps have been set up, who's being tortured, who's an American....NOBODY.

this whole torture debte is very idiotic.  Recruits in Marine Boot Camp go through far worse.

I did not even mention what Navy Seal Recreuits go through in BUDS.

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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2009, 07:20:27 AM »
Buds, SEAR school.....Dive School.....plus the general level of misery that's Ranger school. These bastards play soccer and have access to great medical care, clean room, books, music etc etc.
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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2009, 07:50:57 AM »


And these bastards are also being released...

http://www.newsobserver.com/nation_world/story/1365348.html
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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2009, 07:52:39 AM »
Buds, SEAR school.....Dive School.....plus the general level of misery that's Ranger school. These bastards play soccer and have access to great medical care, clean room, books, music etc etc.

The military should say that these clowns are being transfered to San Diego and will get to "work out" with the BUDS recruits.

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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2009, 07:54:06 AM »
Libs will never get it.

get what? 

the white house?
control of congress?

82% support for obama?

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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2009, 07:57:20 AM »
get what? 

the white house?
control of congress?

82% support for obama?

GWB had higher approval ratings after 9/11

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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2009, 08:10:42 AM »
get what? 

the white house?
control of congress?

82% support for obama?

I think ur knowledge and understanding of the 2006/2008 election is about an inch deep. If u look at the majority of those elected in 2006, many of them were conservative or middle of the road dems and not Libs. Take Webb, the Repubs already had their guy, so he "became" a Dem. Nobody mistakes Webb for a Lib. In 2008 it was all about anybody but Bush. U guys have ur Hil faction and ur Obama faction. They will try and get him back in line. If Obama thinks he has an unshakable mandate to push us left, ur completely wrong.
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Re: Democrats seek criminal probe of Bush 'abuses'
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2009, 10:31:21 AM »
Can anyone name a person that has been illegally wiretapped by order of the Bush administration??


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