Hamas Is Hammered In a Hopeless Battle

[flagadajones]

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/israel/articles/20090113.aspx

January 13, 2009: So far there have been about 4,000 casualties from the fighting that began in December 27th. As with past battles between Israel and Arabs, most of the losses (in this case 98 percent) are Arab. This is worse than previous wars because Hamas has deliberately tried to get Palestinians killed, mainly for the propaganda value. The Israelis have developed new tactics that minimize their casualties, and those of Palestinian civilians. The mass media is in the midst of their usual anti-Israel/pro-Hamas hysteria. But, as in the past, when the dust settles, it will be revealed (if not universally admitted) that Hamas was trying to get Palestinian civilians killed, and Israelis weren't. Israeli tactics have denied Hamas the bloodbath they hoped to achieve. The Hamas gunmen die quickly, and the Israeli troops are very difficult to hit. The Israeli ground forces have moved into the suburbs of Gaza City. Arabs are dismayed by this disparity in casualties, which has occurred whenever Arab and Westerners have fought in the last century or so. The reason for it is the corruption and inefficiency of Arab society. The Arabs have proved to be unable to rule themselves effectively, and a long list of bad habits makes it difficult for Arabs to create effective armed forces. Thus we end up with Hamas cynically using tactics that try to get more Palestinians killed, so the "victimhood" of Hamas will be enhanced by a world that averts their eyes when it comes to seeing Arab faults, and the tragic results.



The Israeli objective is the dozens of warehouses and workshops for the rockets that are constantly being fired into Israel. This has been going on for seven years, and the Israelis want to destroy the Hamas rocket facilities they know about, and work their informant network in Gaza city to see if new rocket storage sites and workshops can be found before Israeli troops are pulled out. Many of these facilities are underground, usually in residential neighborhoods. Israeli aircraft have been making 20-40 air strikes a day, mostly at Hamas gunmen who have been spotted from the air, or by Israeli troops on the ground. As information is received about the location of Hamas leaders or weapons, they are also hit. The Hamas leadership has taken a big hit, and appears to be paralyzed and in a state of panic because of these attacks.



Hamas rocket attacks on southern Israel are declining, to about ten a day. Apparently, Israeli forces believe they will have to sweep most of Gaza City to get the rocket firings down to none, or only one or two, a day. It is believed that about 75 percent of the 900 Arabs killed so far have been armed members of Hamas (about two thirds) or other terrorist organizations (the other third). The enemy are losing about fifty dead a day now, mainly in clashes with Israeli troops. The enemy ambush tactics (booby trapped homes, snipers, roadside bombs, suicide bombers) have proved remarkably ineffective so far. Hamas has boated of having up to 20,000 armed fighters, but few of these have shown up so far. There appear to be less than a thousand armed Palestinians fighting more than ten times that number of Israeli troops. Hamas leaders are reluctant to gather their local gunmen and go fight, because of the Israeli success at killing any Hamas leaders that become active like that. It's much safer to just hide in a basement and keep quiet.



Israel is willing to have a ceasefire, but only if European nations put their own troops in Gaza as truce observers. European nations are reluctant to do this, as they know (but will not admit) what a hopeless situation it is dealing with the Palestinians, and especially Hamas. Meanwhile, since December 27th, there has been a sharp increase in anti-Semite incidents in Europe (nearly 60 in France alone, with calls for boycotts against Jews in Italy and so on.) While there is some criticism of Hamas for their constant rocket attacks on Israel, the main focus of public anger is against Israel for defending itself with force, and Jews in general. Old habits die hard, although some of the anti-Semites insist they are simply demanding justice for Hamas. Ironically, or otherwise, the current criticism of the Jews is very similar to that used to justify anti-Semitic persecution in the past (the dark conspiracies and such).

[Fury]

All that hooting and hollering and they're getting the shit kicked out of them all over Palestine. Allahu Akbar!

[Hereford]

When is the last time a muslim military force has won a stand-up battle against a non-muslim force?

Anybody?

[IFBBwannaB]

When is the last time a muslim military force has won a stand-up battle against a non-muslim force?

Anybody?

When Salah Adin was alive.

Here is how Hamas fight:

[MuscleMcMannus]

Well shit I hope the IDF would be able to crush a rag tag bunch of poor, down trodden terrorists with rockets and RPG's.  But then again the US hasn't faired too well in Iraq and Afghanistan is getting out of control. 

[headhuntersix]

When is the last time a muslim military force has won a stand-up battle against a non-muslim force?

Anybody?

I'm shooting from the hip but imagine what would have happened if the crusaders were'nt a billion miles from their main supply lines. The muslims fought to the gates of Viennna and then were crushed. I think thats about it for the Arabs.

[Ron]

Hamas gambled on the notion that Israel would not enter and do what it is doing. They wanted the pictures of dead children, pictures of hospitals bombed, and son on.  What Hamas did not realize is that the Israeli army was prepared this time, with intelligence, and techniques.

Coupled that with Egypt and Saudi Arabia wanting Hamas out of the region, and Hamas vowing to destroy everything that is not radical, and shooting missles into Israel, there was no solution yet.

Hamas complained that the dogs were coming into and biting the poor people.  Israel surprised them by equiping three dogs with audio and video capabilities so they can see what is in a house, so the booby trapped bombs wont go off like Hamas wanted, or amushes.

Hamas complained that Israel attacked a UN school. Israel brought out videos that showed Hamas fighters shooting from the school.

Hamas complained about Israel bombing holy sites.  Israel brought out the video showing anti airfact guns, bombs and missles in these places.

Israel VIDEOTAPES every single missle strike on a target.  They monitor it and release them to show the secondary explosions that the stored ammunition and missles when they explode. There is a reason for that.



All Hamas needs to do is agree to peace, to stop missle attacks and to let their people lead their own lives.

They don't want that - they would rather kill and injure 110 rival Fatah Palestinians and keep the fear of death if you go against them on their own people. Shame.


The Palestinians want the change desperately and wish for Hamas to go away. So does Egypt, Saudi Arabia and many other Arab countries.   

[shootfighter1]

Hamas conducts military strikes specifically from civilian buildings and areas to create twisted sympathy for themselves.  The people should revolt and throw them from power.  What cowards.