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diets dont work either
« on: January 16, 2009, 05:42:28 AM »
"Athletes often comprise a large portion of the millions of individuals who wish to modify or diminish the fat stores in the body through the use of thousands of diets and hundreds of weight loss programs available to them. Considering there are over 30,000 published diets alone, it cannot help but be noticed that if one of them worked successfully over the long term, there would not be a need for the other 29,999."

quoted from "Nutrition for the Recreational Athlete"


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Re: diets dont work either
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 05:43:39 AM »
Exactly because diets are never meant to be long term.

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Re: diets dont work either
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2009, 05:45:19 AM »
Diet without exercise does nothing. I wish people would understand that.

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Re: diets dont work either
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2009, 05:46:30 AM »
SO if you do a 8-12 week diet, what is the time period between 13-20 weeks called? Not dieting

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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2009, 05:46:43 AM »
Diet without exercise does nothing. I wish people would understand that.

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Re: diets dont work either
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2009, 05:47:58 AM »
Diet without exercise does nothing. I wish people would understand that.

exactly. Calorie restriction must be coupled with exercise and the two practies are synergistic

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2009, 05:58:11 AM »
"Diets" as in "i only eat bananas for 8 weeks and will lose a lot of weight" are for idiots.

If you eat whole foods, very balanced nutrients you can simply lose fat (not just weight!!!) by eating less or build muscle by eating more. You don't need to limit yourself to a certain food alone. These diets are for fat girls that want to lose a lot of weight in a short time (mainly water and muscle) and then bounce back to fat in a few weeks.

Doing sports is obligatory, of course.

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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2009, 06:07:55 AM »
"Athletes often comprise a large portion of the millions of individuals who wish to modify or diminish the fat stores in the body through the use of thousands of diets and hundreds of weight loss programs available to them. Considering there are over 30,000 published diets alone, it cannot help but be noticed that if one of them worked successfully over the long term, there would not be a need for the other 29,999."

quoted from "Nutrition for the Recreational Athlete"



30,000?! Did he list them?  :-X
just not good enough

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Re: diets dont work either
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2009, 06:13:34 AM »
"Athletes often comprise a large portion of the millions of individuals who wish to modify or diminish the fat stores in the body through the use of thousands of diets and hundreds of weight loss programs available to them. Considering there are over 30,000 published diets alone, it cannot help but be noticed that if one of them worked successfully over the long term, there would not be a need for the other 29,999."

quoted from "Nutrition for the Recreational Athlete"



Thats a pretty clever quote....except for the fact that 30,000 diets probably DO work....it's people that don't follow them thats the problem.

BTW...gimmick diets and fad diets are NOT diets and shouldnt count

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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2009, 06:16:44 AM »
Thats a pretty clever quote....except for the fact that 30,000 diets probably DO work....it's people that don't follow them thats the problem.

BTW...gimmick diets and fad diets are NOT diets and shouldnt count


What is your definition & criteria of a 'working' diet? One follows 10 week diet - reaches their goal - and ......... then what?

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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2009, 06:20:51 AM »

What is your definition & criteria of a 'working' diet? One follows 10 week diet - reaches their goal - and ......... then what?

Well, I guess a "working diet" would be one thats working...
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I consider a "diet", regulating food intake and eating the right foods....not eating lemon rines with tea for 12 weeks, or any of these other bullshit fad diets designed to make money.


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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2009, 06:25:37 AM »
Well, I guess a "working diet" would be one thats working...
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I consider a "diet", regulating food intake and eating the right foods....not eating lemon rines with tea for 12 weeks, or any of these other bullshit fad diets designed to make money.



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Re: diets dont work either
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2009, 06:26:03 AM »
I'm reminded of a quote a wise man once said.  "Fat peoples lack of will power is sickening"

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Re: diets dont work either
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2009, 06:31:26 AM »
I'm reminded of a quote a wise man once said.  "Fat peoples lack of will power is sickening"

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Re: diets dont work either
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2009, 06:37:05 AM »
Thats a pretty clever quote....except for the fact that 30,000 diets probably DO work....it's people that don't follow them thats the problem.

BTW...gimmick diets and fad diets are NOT diets and shouldnt count
no Chick. Diets never ever work .

because getting fat has to do with mindpattern.

the mind pattern of getting fat is insulating one's self from outside factors ...
until u change the mindpattern that got you there in the first place you will always fail dieting via self sabotaje

that's why people cannot "diet"....

FAULTY MIND PATTERN THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

I see a lot of people , maybe most in the fitnessindustry who unfortunately do not understand how we work as human beings.

How we think dictates who we are ...simple as that ....

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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2009, 06:38:32 AM »
no Chick. Diets never ever work .

because getting fat has to do with mindpattern.

the mind pattern of getting fat is insulating one's self from outside factors ...
until u change the mindpattern that got you there in the first place you will always fail dieting via self sabotaje

that's why people cannot "diet"....

FAULTY MIND PATTERN THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

I see a lot of people , maybe most in the fitnessindustry who unfortunately do not understand how we work as human beings.

How we think dictates who we are ...simple as that ....

Or just be born a gypsy and have to rape and pillage for a loaf of bread.

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Re: diets dont work either
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2009, 06:43:49 AM »
Or just be born a gypsy and have to rape and pillage for a loaf of bread.

Or you could get your family inside a stolen car, flee to germany, steal on the street for 5 weeks and then return in another stolen car.

That's called romanian holidays

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Re: diets dont work either
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2009, 06:47:03 AM »
Or you could get your family inside a stolen car, flee to germany, steal on the street for 5 weeks and then return in another stolen car.

That's called romanian holidays
sev wouldnt do something like that.  especially since he is pretty well off. an apartment 100% paid for etc.

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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2009, 06:48:22 AM »
sev wouldnt do something like that.  especially since he is pretty well off. an apartment 100% paid for etc.

STFU, nobody asked you for an opinion.

Also, it's not really that hard to pay for an apartment if you have sold a few stolen cars or deal steroids on the side.

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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2009, 06:49:28 AM »
sev wouldnt do something like that.  especially since he is pretty well off. an apartment 100% paid for etc.
I don't think I'm well off...but my expenses don't include a house payment or car payment ..just utilities and the ussual shit.

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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2009, 06:53:09 AM »
I don't think I'm well off...but my expenses don't include a house payment or car payment ..just utilities and the ussual shit.
that is how i live sev, i dont like a big overhead.  if you knock out housing & car payments it is easy to live cheap & sustainably if you need to.  i dont use credit at all

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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2009, 06:56:49 AM »
that is how i live sev, i dont like a big overhead.  if you knock out housing & car payments it is easy to live cheap & sustainably if you need to.  i dont use credit at all
Yes..ditto ..I prefer modest lifestyle over high overhead and the prospect of something going wrong

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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2009, 06:58:19 AM »
lol!!! Two eastern europeans talking about how they prefer the "modest" lifestyle over luxury!!!

LMFAO!

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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2009, 07:01:36 AM »
lol!!! Two eastern europeans talking about how they prefer the "modest" lifestyle over luxury!!!

LMFAO!
I would def preffer luxury but I learned over the years to play it safe given my options ..that's all...big money don't turn me on as I am not willing to do what it takes to make big money. I'm just not built like that . So I'm at peace with myself :)

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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2009, 07:03:42 AM »
I would def preffer luxury but I learned over the years to play it safe given my options ..that's all...big money don't turn me on as I am not willing to do what it takes to make big money. I'm just not built like that . So I'm at peace with myself :)

lol, that's a nice way of putting "I live in a shithole of a country where nothing is available and if it WAS available the gypsies would steal it right out of my hands".

I would call that "socially-deducted modesty".