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Dos Equis · « **on:** January 16, 2009, 10:13:12 AM »

Holder: Gun control options 'narrowed' after high court ruling
Posted: 03:40 PM ET

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Attorney General-designate Eric Holder conceded during his confirmation hearing Thursday that the government's options for regulating the possession of firearms have been narrowed in the wake of the Supreme Court's 2008 ruling that the Second Amendment ensures an individual right to bear arms.

"Reasonable restrictions are still possible," Holder said, including measures such as a ban on the sale of what are called "cop-killer" bullets.

But, he granted, "we're living in a different world" since the high court's 5-4 ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller.

Holder said that he previously viewed the Second Amendment as a "collective right" to bear arms, not an individual right.

The Heller ruling, Holder said, was a "very significant opinion."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

BM OUT · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:19:42 AM »

Thats very dangerous.First they take the guns,then every right is taken away as there is nothing left to fear.

tonymctones · « **Reply #2 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:25:57 AM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on January 16, 2009, 10:13:12 AM

Holder: Gun control options 'narrowed' after high court ruling
Posted: 03:40 PM ET

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Attorney General-designate Eric Holder conceded during his confirmation hearing Thursday that the government's options for regulating the possession of firearms have been narrowed in the wake of the Supreme Court's 2008 ruling that the Second Amendment ensures an individual right to bear arms.

"Reasonable restrictions are still possible," Holder said, including measures such as a ban on the sale of what are called "cop-killer" bullets.

But, he granted, "we're living in a different world" since the high court's 5-4 ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller.

Holder said that he previously viewed the Second Amendment as a "collective right" to bear arms, not an individual right.

The Heller ruling, Holder said, was a "very significant opinion."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

"cop killer bullets" wtf is this moron talking about?

2ND COMING · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:28:04 AM »

Quote from: tonymctones on January 16, 2009, 10:25:57 AM

"cop killer bullets" wtf is this moron talking about?

hollowed tips, bitch

tonymctones · « **Reply #4 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:30:59 AM »

Quote from: 2ND COMING on January 16, 2009, 10:28:04 AM

hollowed tips, bitch

hahah you mean hollow points? hahah is that really what he was referring to? seriously?

w8tlftr · « **Reply #5 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:55:39 AM »

The Supreme Court ruled on this.

It's going to be a very bloody day in American history when the government tries to take guns away from it's citizens.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #6 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:52:27 AM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on January 16, 2009, 10:19:42 AM

Thats very dangerous.First they take the guns,then every right is taken away as there is nothing left to fear.

I'm glad I bought my AR in September. I actually bought it when Palin was selected. Go figure.

Also, BLOAT all the time.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:53:22 AM »

Quote from: w8tlftr on January 16, 2009, 10:55:39 AM

The Supreme Court ruled on this.

It's going to be a very bloody day in American history when the government tries to take guns away from it's citizens.

Where is 240 who keep ssaying we have nothing to fear from ZERO?

Dos Equis · « **Reply #8 on:** January 21, 2009, 01:05:37 PM »

Is the anti-gun AG in trouble?

GOP delays Holder confirmation for a week
Posted: 03:29 PM ET

From CNN Justice Producer Terry Frieden

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The initial confirmation vote for Eric Holder, President Barack Obama's pick for attorney general, was postponed for a week Wednesday after a rancorous meeting of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Republicans, who want to question Holder about his role in a controversial presidential pardon when he worked in the Clinton administration, used a procedure that allows them to put off the vote.

A clearly agitated Sen. Patrick Leahy, a Democrat and chairman of the committee, slammed his gavel and walked out after acknowledging that Republicans had the right to ask for the delay.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

headhuntersix · « **Reply #9 on:** January 21, 2009, 01:52:06 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on January 16, 2009, 11:52:27 AM

I'm glad I bought my AR in September. I actually bought it when Palin was selected. Go figure.

Also, BLOAT all the time.

Please tell me ur atleast got a mat black one....all the gun show stands have had digicam, sof scheme etc etc. I also hope u didn't nerd it up with every laser site, flashlight, grip....

2ND COMING · « **Reply #10 on:** January 21, 2009, 01:58:15 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 21, 2009, 01:52:06 PM

Please tell me ur atleast got a mat black one....all the gun show stands have had digicam, sof scheme etc etc. I also hope u didn't nerd it up with every laser site, flashlight, grip....

Lol

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #11 on:** January 22, 2009, 06:07:21 AM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 21, 2009, 01:52:06 PM

Please tell me ur atleast got a mat black one....all the gun show stands have had digicam, sof scheme etc etc. I also hope u didn't nerd it up with every laser site, flashlight, grip....

I got eh AR from my buddy who owns a gun store. Bushmaster A4, .223. I am in NY so they only sell the fixed stock. i also have a Remi 870, Glock 17, Ruger 10/22/ Marlin Papoose, and others.

Amoo is where I am spending dollars right now.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #12 on:** January 28, 2009, 10:26:47 AM »

The new anti-gun AG is almost home.

Judiciary Committee endorses Holder for attorney general
Posted: 11:13 AM ET
WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Senate Judiciary Committee voted Wednesday to send the nomination of Attorney General-designate Eric Holder to the full Senate.

The committee's Democratic members unanimously supported Holder; GOP Sens. John Cornyn of Texas and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma voted no.

Holder's Senate floor vote and swearing in could be completed as soon as Thursday.

The committee's endorsement of Holder was virtually assured on Tuesday when the committee's top Republican, Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter, announced his support of Holder's nomination.

Specter had angered Holder during the committee's confirmation hearing 11 days ago when he questioned Holder's "fitness" for the office.

In particular, the Pennsylvania senator questioned whether Holder would be politically independent from the White House, recalling Holder's refusal as deputy attorney general during the Clinton administration to seek an independent counsel for an investigation of allegedly questionable fund-raising by then-Vice President Al Gore.

A clearly annoyed Holder warned Specter he was "getting close to the line in questioning my integrity."

It was the only heated exchange during a long day of testimony.

Specter, who later met with Holder privately, had also been particularly aggressive in challenging Holder's account of his role in the pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich by President Bill Clinton. He raised additional concerns about the possible prosecution of Bush-era officials who were operating under what they presumed to be a lawful order when they engaged in harsh interrogation techniques.

Outgoing Deputy Attorney General Mark Filip is serving as acting attorney general until Holder arrives at the Justice Department.

If confirmed by the full Senate, Holder, 58, will become the nation's first African-American attorney general.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/28/judiciary-committee-endorses-holder-for-attorney-general/#more-37592

240 is Back · « **Reply #13 on:** January 28, 2009, 01:36:57 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on January 16, 2009, 10:25:57 AM

"cop killer bullets" wtf is this moron talking about?

The ammunition was targeted by those opposed to handguns,[5] and the reputation was very different in the public,[6] and eventually the Talons became to be known by the moniker "cop-killer" bullets.[7] The hype of the Black Talon ammunition was the black coating on the bullets themselves. There were false rumors that the bullets were armor piercing and could penetrate the Kevlar vests worn by police officers.[8][9] To further the controversy, some medical personnel claimed that the sharp barb like tips could potentially cause tears in the surgical gloves and hands of the medical workers, exposing them to greater risk of infection,[1] however there are no documented reports of this actually happening.[10]

The ammunition was used by the gunman of the 1993 Long Island Railroad mass murder. In 1996 a lawsuit was subsequently filed by one of the victim's family members (McCarthy v. Sturm, Ruger and Co., Inc., 916 F.Supp. 366 (S.D.N.Y., 1996)) claiming that Olin Corp should be liable for the shooting spree based on the design, manufacture, marketing, and sale of Black Talon ammunition. The claims against Olin were dismissed because it was held that the bullets were not defectively designed.[11]

Winchester bowed to pressure and in 1993 removed the ammunition from public sale for a time,[12] and eventually law enforcement also bowed to the pressure, but at no time was it, nor is it presently, illegal to possess the Black Talon ammunition.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #14 on:** January 28, 2009, 01:43:02 PM »

AWB will soon be on the table again.

Obama even made a comment during the campaign about AK's specifically.

240 is Back · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2009, 01:50:48 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on January 28, 2009, 01:43:02 PM

AWB will soon be on the table again.

being anti-gun cost clinton his congress.

obama won't go down that route.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #16 on:** January 28, 2009, 01:52:08 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on January 22, 2009, 06:07:21 AM

I got eh AR from my buddy who owns a gun store. Bushmaster A4, .223. I am in NY so they only sell the fixed stock. i also have a Remi 870, Glock 17, Ruger 10/22/ Marlin Papoose, and others.

Amoo is where I am spending dollars right now.

U and everybody else man....folks this is no joke. The millions of hunters and such in "fly-over" country are buying ammo like its free. I hit Cabella's once a month to buy cheap .45 amm to shoot. Half the time the shelves are bare as the guy didn't have time to restock. People are really worried. U don't get sense of it until u walk into a Bass Pro or Cabella's on a Saturday and can't get near the gun counter and the wait is 30 min.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #17 on:** January 28, 2009, 01:54:40 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 28, 2009, 01:52:08 PM

U and everybody else man....folks this is no joke. The millions of hunters and such in "fly-over" country are buying ammo like its free. I hit Cabella's once a month to buy cheap .45 amm to shoot. Half the time the shelves are bare as the guy didn't have time to restock. People are really worried. U don't get sense of it until u walk into a Bass Pro or Cabella's on a Saturday and can't get near the gun counter and the wait is 30 min.

I get everything on sportsmansguide.com

240 is Back · « **Reply #18 on:** January 28, 2009, 01:55:39 PM »

lol... ammoman.com completely sold out of 7.62

anyone recomment a better site to buy?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #19 on:** January 28, 2009, 01:58:31 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on January 28, 2009, 01:55:39 PM

lol... ammoman.com completely sold out of 7.62

anyone recomment a better site to buy?

Try sportsmansguide.com

Great site. They have amazing deals on BDU's and military surplus jackets, parkas and other stuff.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #20 on:** January 28, 2009, 02:04:23 PM »

7.62 will keep u down. They have a huge bunker complex on the huge complex that the Afghan army trains on. Some of them are full of AK's, diska's etc...ammo, rifles in every configuration. I'm not a gun nut but u start to sweat like a hooker in church looking at all that hardware. They had cut down AK's, airborne AK's, AK's with the grenade launchers...and enough 7.62 to take over europe.

If u guys are gun geeks and like all the bells and whistles...try http://www.opsgear.com/...they have everything including training courses.