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Re: String Theory
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2009, 10:18:26 AM »
Huh?

Watch it so he doesn't add you to the "Schmoe-list".   ::) ::)
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Re: String Theory
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2009, 10:20:12 AM »
Can anyone give me a simplified summary of string theory? Everything I read about it online is just too damn complicated. I figured there would be plenty of getbiggers who understand it.

String theory is so last century.  K-theory is where it's at!


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Re: String Theory
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2009, 10:26:00 AM »
sevatase could tell you using godmind in hyperspace.   :)

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Re: String Theory
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2009, 02:18:50 PM »
String theory is so last century.  K-theory is where it's at!



I'm just surprised you didn't say that string theory was somehow related to G4P .... you seem to think everything else is!!

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Re: String Theory
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2009, 04:12:36 PM »
I'm just surprised you didn't say that string theory was somehow related to G4P .... you seem to think everything else is!!

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You've obviously got cock on the brain.  Good luck with that.  ;)

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Re: String Theory
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2009, 04:31:03 PM »
I'm a physics graduate student and I could not give a good explanation of string theory. Never even taken a course in it.

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Re: String Theory
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2009, 04:36:39 PM »
I'm a physics graduate student and I could not give a good explanation of string theory. Never even taken a course in it.

wonderful contribution!  please more! ;D

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Re: String Theory
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Re: String Theory
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2009, 04:38:03 PM »
I'm a physics graduate student and I could not give a good explanation of string theory. Never even taken a course in it.

Thanks for the update.

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Re: String Theory
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2009, 04:42:28 PM »
Thanks for the update.

Well im sure I know more than you. Large amount of dimensions. Everything is made up of tiny oscillating strings. Fits well with duality. It is unproven but sheds light on super symmetry.

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Re: String Theory
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2009, 04:45:09 PM »
it is what it is. a theory.

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Re: String Theory
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2009, 04:58:05 PM »
Blaze, what you recently stated is interesting.

A few years back, I picked up a book on String Theory thinking that it would have something to do with the ODDS that casinos figure that they need in order to give all casino games a slight advantage over the players. (Dumb! huh??)

Needless to say, I was completely wrong and asked a professor who is a bit smarter than myself to explain "basic" string theory to me while having a cup of Starbuck's Coffee on the local campus.

He laughed and merely suggested that I start by reading a book on another subject. The book was/is called "Dancing Wu Li Masters" and is probably the simplest explanation of Quantum Mechanics available today. I assumed that such reading would eventually lead me to unraveling the mysteries of String Theory or at least a basic understanding of what the hell it is.

I actually did read Dancing Wu Li Masters about 8 times in my humble attempt to understand QM and then enable me to leap into the depths of ST, but I never was prepared to proceed further into that subject matter.

I asked a genius physicist friend of mine how come I could not comprehend QM after eight successful attempts of reading the book cover to cover.

He simply said that I shouldn't feel too stupid concerning the subject of Quantum Mechanics because  even the experts in the field of QM have difficulty in understanding because it is so contradictory to the Newtonian way of see the world in which the things we see are not actually what they appear to be.

And he concluded by stating exactly what you stated .... "You can pass through a solid wall!"

But apparently you'd have to tune the molecules in your own body and adjust them to pass through the molecules in the wall.

But I really think he was merely trying to tell me that when you look deeply enough, we are only masses of energy without physical components.

I've been giving that some deep thought lately and kind of feel a bit like how I think Johnny Falcon  feels on some occasions.

Maybe Johnny knows more about this than I suspect.

There is one exceptional problem in the realm of QM that is thought provoking... I won't go into complete details but if you store a cat in a box and there are only two distinct possibilities about that cat once you open that box (dead cat or living cat), the reality of that dead cat or living cat only materializes when you open that box and look at that damn cat. That's a simple explanation of a very interesting subject.

Sort of like asking yourself, does something really exist if you are not looking at it?

Or is there any noise when a tree falls in a forest if you are not there to hear it?

Simple questions that get very involved and complicated when studied by those who understand QM.

Maybe Mr Falcon can help us out a bit here. I sure ain;t too very smart enough to go beyond what I've already stated.



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Re: String Theory
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2009, 05:30:05 PM »
I'd take a couple of physics courses to get a grounding in physics, then maybe go to a seminar or two on it. Basically, all matter is composed of 'vibrating strings', or something similiar. Essentially matter is energy. It just doesn't feel that way when you have 5 or 600 lbs on your back at the squat rack.....

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Re: String Theory
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2009, 05:49:25 PM »
string theory

if you move just one 'thing' to x degree then the ('mechanics' 'composition' )of {matter or 'being'} that are possibly known  and unknown, become manipulated in near or far proximity, then global, then universal
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Re: String Theory
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Re: String Theory
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2009, 06:00:23 PM »
omitting magnetism and electricity for now

we can use sound to manipulate particle formation. like a high pitch breaking glass

perhaps holy sacred songs providing the right rhythms /tones to modify something seen or unseen?
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Re: String Theory
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2009, 11:55:44 AM »
Blaze, what you recently stated is interesting.

A few years back, I picked up a book on String Theory thinking that it would have something to do with the ODDS that casinos figure that they need in order to give all casino games a slight advantage over the players. (Dumb! huh??)

Needless to say, I was completely wrong and asked a professor who is a bit smarter than myself to explain "basic" string theory to me while having a cup of Starbuck's Coffee on the local campus.

He laughed and merely suggested that I start by reading a book on another subject. The book was/is called "Dancing Wu Li Masters" and is probably the simplest explanation of Quantum Mechanics available today. I assumed that such reading would eventually lead me to unraveling the mysteries of String Theory or at least a basic understanding of what the hell it is.

I actually did read Dancing Wu Li Masters about 8 times in my humble attempt to understand QM and then enable me to leap into the depths of ST, but I never was prepared to proceed further into that subject matter.

I asked a genius physicist friend of mine how come I could not comprehend QM after eight successful attempts of reading the book cover to cover.

He simply said that I shouldn't feel too stupid concerning the subject of Quantum Mechanics because  even the experts in the field of QM have difficulty in understanding because it is so contradictory to the Newtonian way of see the world in which the things we see are not actually what they appear to be.

And he concluded by stating exactly what you stated .... "You can pass through a solid wall!"

But apparently you'd have to tune the molecules in your own body and adjust them to pass through the molecules in the wall.

But I really think he was merely trying to tell me that when you look deeply enough, we are only masses of energy without physical components.

I've been giving that some deep thought lately and kind of feel a bit like how I think Johnny Falcon  feels on some occasions.

Maybe Johnny knows more about this than I suspect.

There is one exceptional problem in the realm of QM that is thought provoking... I won't go into complete details but if you store a cat in a box and there are only two distinct possibilities about that cat once you open that box (dead cat or living cat), the reality of that dead cat or living cat only materializes when you open that box and look at that damn cat. That's a simple explanation of a very interesting subject.

Sort of like asking yourself, does something really exist if you are not looking at it?

Or is there any noise when a tree falls in a forest if you are not there to hear it?

Simple questions that get very involved and complicated when studied by those who understand QM.

Maybe Mr Falcon can help us out a bit here. I sure ain;t too very smart enough to go beyond what I've already stated.




QM is fucked up.

Let me  break it down  in  meathead terms. There are many possible outcomes to every situation. Say you are deadlifting, the bar is loaded on the ground, you have three distinct possibilities, you can attempt the lift and fail, attempt the  lift and succeed or walk away and not attempt the lift at all. How this scenario turns out is unknown until you do one of the above. Simple concept.

Now, you are alone and you close your eyes and roll a pair of dice. Now, the way you and I see the world is that the outcome of this situation is unknown until the dice stop rolling and then the outcome is set in stone. Whatever landed face up is the only possible outcome. According to QM, the situation is still completely unknown. Until you open your eyes, the dice exist only as a probability. Once you  open your eyes this probability function 'collapses' into one of the many possible outcomes.

The basic idea is that everything is just energy of one sort or another. The world as we see it (discrete objects, events etc) exists only because we are there to see it that way. As soon as we stop looking, it goes back to being a big mess of probabilities.

If anyone finds this  stuff interesting Google schrodinger's cat. A great book (although not just about QM) is A Brief History of Time.


Einstein on QM 'I like to think the moon is there even when I am not looking at it.'

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Re: String Theory
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2009, 12:09:25 PM »
well
here is the deal
atoms are made of protons neutrons and electrons, protons and neutrons being the subatomic particles located in the nucleus. This is where an atoms mass comes from, as, compared to protons and neutrons ( which are basically the same mass) electrons have an extremely small mass. electrons are also very very far away from the nucleus with respect to their size. Liken it to a golf ball in the middle of a football field.  So what is an atom mostly made of? Empty space. THEORETICALLY if you ,,for example,,leaned up against a wall for an infinite amount of time, you would pass right through it. Now we all know that wouldn't happen, but, in theory, it is not impossible. String theory has to do with what the actual subatomic particles are made of. This is where my knowledge stops.
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Re: String Theory
« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2009, 12:12:27 PM »
So where's the pics of chicks in g-strings ???

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Re: String Theory
« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2009, 12:14:49 PM »
string theory

if you move just one 'thing' to x degree then the ('mechanics' 'composition' )of {matter or 'being'} that are possibly known  and unknown, become manipulated in near or far proximity, then global, then universal

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Re: String Theory
« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2009, 12:16:02 PM »
Blaze, what you recently stated is interesting.

A few years back, I picked up a book on String Theory thinking that it would have something to do with the ODDS that casinos figure that they need in order to give all casino games a slight advantage over the players. (Dumb! huh??)

Needless to say, I was completely wrong and asked a professor who is a bit smarter than myself to explain "basic" string theory to me while having a cup of Starbuck's Coffee on the local campus.

He laughed and merely suggested that I start by reading a book on another subject. The book was/is called "Dancing Wu Li Masters" and is probably the simplest explanation of Quantum Mechanics available today. I assumed that such reading would eventually lead me to unraveling the mysteries of String Theory or at least a basic understanding of what the hell it is.

I actually did read Dancing Wu Li Masters about 8 times in my humble attempt to understand QM and then enable me to leap into the depths of ST, but I never was prepared to proceed further into that subject matter.

I asked a genius physicist friend of mine how come I could not comprehend QM after eight successful attempts of reading the book cover to cover.

He simply said that I shouldn't feel too stupid concerning the subject of Quantum Mechanics because  even the experts in the field of QM have difficulty in understanding because it is so contradictory to the Newtonian way of see the world in which the things we see are not actually what they appear to be.

And he concluded by stating exactly what you stated .... "You can pass through a solid wall!"

But apparently you'd have to tune the molecules in your own body and adjust them to pass through the molecules in the wall.

But I really think he was merely trying to tell me that when you look deeply enough, we are only masses of energy without physical components.

I've been giving that some deep thought lately and kind of feel a bit like how I think Johnny Falcon  feels on some occasions.

Maybe Johnny knows more about this than I suspect.

There is one exceptional problem in the realm of QM that is thought provoking... I won't go into complete details but if you store a cat in a box and there are only two distinct possibilities about that cat once you open that box (dead cat or living cat), the reality of that dead cat or living cat only materializes when you open that box and look at that damn cat. That's a simple explanation of a very interesting subject.

Sort of like asking yourself, does something really exist if you are not looking at it?

Or is there any noise when a tree falls in a forest if you are not there to hear it?

Simple questions that get very involved and complicated when studied by those who understand QM.

Maybe Mr Falcon can help us out a bit here. I sure ain;t too very smart enough to go beyond what I've already stated.



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Re: String Theory easily explained
« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2009, 12:17:11 PM »
string theory

if you move just one 'thing' to x degree then the ('mechanics' 'composition' )of {matter or 'being'} that are possibly known  and unknown, become manipulated in near or far proximity, then global, then universal
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Re: String Theory easily explained
« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2009, 12:18:14 PM »
string theory

if you move just one 'thing' to x degree then the ('mechanics' 'composition' )of {matter or 'being'} that are possibly known  and unknown, become manipulated in near or far proximity, then global, then universal

that doesn't explain it

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Re: String Theory
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2009, 01:05:30 PM »
Cauthon gave a good explanation on reality; I'll add the following:
(My ideas on it are influenced by Immanuel Kant, Perennial Philosophy, Bertrand Russell, and Cognitive Theory Model)
This isn't string theory, as string theory is one set of 'string theories' that will supposedly be united under the umbrella of an "M Theory".
As of now, it's not complete - though a form of it may one day be inherent in evolved beings.

Reality is a closed circuit.

There are two aspects of it - God(all that is reality), and mind.
This is the link between quantum physics and metaphysics - the relationship between mind and matter. The point is to figure out how reality is programmed to recognise mind - and vice-versa.

At the atomic level, matter consist of atoms; at the subatomic level, matter consist of smaller particles like protons, neutrons. At the quantum level, things work differently:
matter exist as a wave of unlimited potentials.
Think of this wave as consisting of an unlimited amount of dice - the facings of which are determined by observers(mind).

If one aspect of reality did not exist, reality as a whole could not exist.

In this way, we work as 'sensors for reality' or "God's Eyes" if you like. We describe reality through our knowledge of it; however, we can never know 100% of reality - if we did that would destroy the circuit and end existence. God represents 100% knowledge of all existance, and as such 'he' represents the unlimited potential that exist in the universe at the quantum level. It is the purpose of minds to create reality by describing it to itself.

The underlying goal of mind is to attain a greater knowledge of God(reality); this is what drives the universe. It is, however, a futile endeavor - as explained, it is impossible to have complete knowledge of God without destroying the circuit. Minds will possess 99.999999% knowledge of all reality, allowing them to create pocket universes or alter matter at whim, but they will never possess 100% knowledge. At that juncture, such beings would be capable of shrinking matter back to the point of singularity (when all matter was compressed into a single point) before the universe is destroyed.
This cycle (expansion, then reversion back to singularity) is infinite and necessary. Complete unity of the universal mind with God would destroy any sense of self, or ego, and all that would exist is a 'potential' that only exist as just that - a potential. Time would not exist, because time is a relationship of matter in space-time. Effectively, existence would not exist - something that can't actually happen.

The universe can't allow it, because the universe is a system of unlimited potential with checks and balances. Anything that attempted to exist, that creates a paradox within the system, would immediately be extinguished.

Our ideas and political beliefs don't really matter, because we are all driven by the same underlying goal of unity with God. What is a capitalist? A capitalist is an egoist. A capitalist is a capitalist because it suits his station in life (he's rich, so that particular outlook is his). What is a communist? A communist is an egoist. A communist is poor so that particular outlook suits his situation. This is a gross simplification - but always there is the underlying motive of a drive toward unity with God. Fascist or Libertarian - we are all just egoist. All are two sides of the same coin - attempting to achieve that unification (unknowingly), within the framework of their own background. Unity may come peacefully, or through war - either way it will come.

Conflict brings about dominance of one type. The step between many egos working in conflict, is a transitory step in the evolution of mind, which is the reduction of ego through a purging process. The reduction of ego brings one closer to the divine ground(reality). This reduction of ego may come about many ways. For example, our extreme global capitalism may make the price of material goods so cheap that nearly everyone possesses the same items. In that sense we have achieved a form of socialism through capitalism - ironically. From the top to the bottom, we have access to the same technology and knowledge; consequently, we have attained a greater form of communalism. The internet, though driven by advertisement, will also speed up the emergence of the mass mind. With the advent of nano-technology, it is only a matter of time before we are working together as a mass mind - aided by the successor of the internet implanted in our brains. All of humanity will have access to the sum of human knowledge, thus a greater portion of God(reality) is attained by all.

Capitalism or Socialism - it all leads to perfect Communism in the end.

At the same time, innovations in genetic engineering will bring us closer together. We will all be one and the same. Ultimately there will be one brain - with duplicates serving as needed, connected by a massive network. The speed of progress will be unprecedented as humanity follows Moore's law. In fact there will be a much vaguer concept of 'humanity' as the augmentations and genetic engineering will make us something much different from now. From that point we all life outside the Earth 'mass mind' will cease to exist, and we will search space for more minds to incorporate in our never ending quest for godliness. We may absorb other beings into our network, or we may be absorbed. The point is the attainment of a greater portion of reality as a mass mind in our futile quest for union with the divine ground - which inevitably leads to another reversion to singularity (big crunch).
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