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headhuntersix · « **Reply #25 on:** January 27, 2009, 06:27:59 AM »

Yeah...oddly enough when u decide to serve they expect u to do ur job. Funny how that works...I could be a worthless civilain like u or serve the country...I'd rather matter.

MuscleMcMannus · « **Reply #26 on:** January 27, 2009, 10:20:08 AM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 27, 2009, 06:27:59 AM

Yeah...oddly enough when u decide to serve they expect u to do ur job. Funny how that works...I could be a worthless civilain like u or serve the country...I'd rather matter.

Wake up dude...you don't serve the country. You serve the government and corporate interests. There is NOTHING you or the US government is doing that is in any way, shape or form protecting the Constitution or making this country safer. Our southern border is wide open and the US has become a fucking welfare cesspool and there isn't a goddman thing your former or current boss is going to do about it. yet you continue to spew your patriotic dribble as if you're some sort of champion of the people, serving and protecting them. All government and the US military is good at doing nowadays is spending money. The results never get any better. F22's, Smart bombs, Predator drones.......and you guys still have piss poor results. I mean my god.......what would happen if the US military was actually tested in a real war. With real soldiers and real weapons instead of IED's and Rocket propelled grenades.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #27 on:** January 27, 2009, 12:53:03 PM »

In 2003 as part of OIF 1 I fought a real war against real enemies with real tanks. The bullets firing back were real....In 2006 I deployed as part of OEF in Afghanistan...the enemy was real, the bullets were real. Ur as asshat of epic size. U've never served a day in uniform period. U have no idea wqhat a real war is or what thge hell that means. In 1991 we crushed the 4th largest army in the world in 100 hours. They were equiped with the latest soviet junk, using the latest soviet tactis....if the enemy has something to bomb we'll crush them easily. U are not equiped to hold my ruck, let alone characterize my service and those I serve with. Ur a worthless, hate america ct douchebag.

MuscleMcMannus · « **Reply #28 on:** January 27, 2009, 02:51:50 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 27, 2009, 12:53:03 PM

In 2003 as part of OIF 1 I fought a real war against real enemies with real tanks. The bullets firing back were real....In 2006 I deployed as part of OEF in Afghanistan...the enemy was real, the bullets were real. Ur as asshat of epic size. U've never served a day in uniform period. U have no idea wqhat a real war is or what thge hell that means. In 1991 we crushed the 4th largest army in the world in 100 hours. They were equiped with the latest soviet junk, using the latest soviet tactis....if the enemy has something to bomb we'll crush them easily. U are not equiped to hold my ruck, let alone characterize my service and those I serve with. Ur a worthless, hate america ct douchebag.

So the greatest thing the US Military has accomplished in post WWII is conquering Saddam Hussein and his outdated military? LMAO! You're a real genius aren't you.

I don't hate America. I hate my current government. I love this country and I belive in our Constitution. Our country has turned into nothing more than an Empire of epic proportions. You are simply an extension of this corrupt and tyrannical government. Are all troops? Probably not. But you seem to lay on the bullshit thicker than most that's for sure. You remind me of this one guy over at Anabolex. Gypsyblues. LMAO! He used to spew the same bullshit as you. Hell maybe you are him.

2ND COMING · « **Reply #29 on:** January 27, 2009, 03:13:07 PM »

I have buddies stationed in kuwait and egypt and they're medics, yet they share a complete 180 view ass hh6 does. my guessing is because hh6 is of the older crowd. They're in their early 20's but they're not some dim witted pansies, they're good guys who know that sometimes shoot first ask questions later is the only way to get a leg up in the world AND YET they will never be quick to call you a ct'er lib because you disagree with how our gov is doing things.

Matter of fact everyone they work with(all in they're 20's)HATES our government, i asked my buddy rob who lives in iowa who he's voting for. He tells me no-one, he hates our leadership. It's sad hh6 is our representation of our armed forces, really.

MuscleMcMannus · « **Reply #30 on:** January 27, 2009, 05:07:47 PM »

Quote from: 2ND COMING on January 27, 2009, 03:13:07 PM

I have buddies stationed in kuwait and egypt and they're medics, yet they share a complete 180 view ass hh6 does. my guessing is because hh6 is of the older crowd. They're in their early 20's but they're not some dim witted pansies, they're good guys who know that sometimes shoot first ask questions later is the only way to get a leg up in the world AND YET they will never be quick to call you a ct'er lib because you disagree with how our gov is doing things.

Matter of fact everyone they work with(all in they're 20's)HATES our government, i asked my buddy rob who lives in iowa who he's voting for. He tells me no-one, he hates our leadership. It's sad hh6 is our representation of our armed forces, really.

Exactly 2nd coming. I realize there are a lot of good Americans serving. But unfortunately they are at the mercy of people and leaders that share the same mindset as HH6. That's what drives me nuts. They are being pulled around by their collars so to speak. I don't hate Americans (well only the brainwashed ones like HH6) I hate our government and our leaders. 99% of them are corrupt and lie and have nothing to do with the Constitution nor upholding it.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #31 on:** January 28, 2009, 06:46:12 AM »

Waaa wwaaa waaa......u two can jerk each other off all day long. I know somebody...I know a guy..he said..they said. Until u throw on a uniform and actually serve, u don't know shit. I've been in for over 16 years. If u honestly think that the majority of service members question authority or are ct's, distrustful of the Gov, ur crazy. Muscles ur a douchebag pure and simple.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #32 on:** January 28, 2009, 10:11:24 AM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 28, 2009, 06:46:12 AM

Waaa wwaaa waaa......u two can jerk each other off all day long. I know somebody...I know a guy..he said..they said. Until u throw on a uniform and actually serve, u don't know shit. I've been in for over 16 years. If u honestly think that the majority of service members question authority or are ct's, distrustful of the Gov, ur crazy. Muscles ur a douchebag pure and simple.

Don't waste your time.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #33 on:** January 28, 2009, 12:04:26 PM »

Thanks Beach....I needed that.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #34 on:** January 28, 2009, 12:31:59 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 28, 2009, 12:04:26 PM

Thanks Beach....I needed that.

No problem mang.

There are plenty of Americans who appreciate what you do.

BTW, I was at the Punchbowl cemetery a couple weeks ago and (for the first time) stopped in the small chapel and read portions of the guest book. I was reading the notes to one of my kids. People from all over the country sign their names and write notes to our soldiers. Powerful stuff. I had to stop reading because my kid was hearing my voice crack. Just know that people from coast to coast have a great deal of pride and gratitude for the job you guys do.

2ND COMING · « **Reply #35 on:** January 28, 2009, 02:31:34 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 28, 2009, 06:46:12 AM

Waaa wwaaa waaa......u two can jerk each other off all day long. I know somebody...I know a guy..he said..they said. Until u throw on a uniform and actually serve, u don't know shit. I've been in for over 16 years. If u honestly think that the majority of service members question authority or are ct's, distrustful of the Gov, ur crazy. Muscles ur a douchebag pure and simple.

Hey dick weed. I talk to my buddies daily. And yes i believe more than the majority of service men under 30 years old do distrust our government. I know you'd rather be serving with zombie pushover's.

How do you explain the highest amount of donations from all service men going to ron paul? Are those guys all ct'ers too?

240 is Back · « **Reply #36 on:** January 28, 2009, 07:42:05 PM »

Quote from: 2ND COMING on January 28, 2009, 02:31:34 PM

Are those guys all ct'ers too?

History shows that most of these CTs are true. We just don't find out about it until 40-50 years later when everyone involved is dead or in diapers.

HH6 love sthe USA, and does his best to work in the PRESENT. He's a smart enough man to know that in 40 years, we'll probably know that a lot of foriegn nations knew about 911, that some folks in the USA knew, and that it happened for a lot more reasons than "they hate our freedoms".

But his job is to kick the shit out of them NOW, and that's it. Let the bloggers and historians discover who knew what, and who benefitted more. HH6's job is to blow shit up and get home to his dog, who is worth more to him than 70 million afghans.

I used to shit on him for it, but really, honestly, I love my cat more than I lover 23 million iraqis. It's true. We all play our position. He plays his well. He knows some CTs are real, but all that would is undermine the job he has do each day.

MuscleMcMannus · « **Reply #37 on:** January 28, 2009, 09:48:40 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on January 28, 2009, 07:42:05 PM

History shows that most of these CTs are true. We just don't find out about it until 40-50 years later when everyone involved is dead or in diapers.

HH6 love sthe USA, and does his best to work in the PRESENT. He's a smart enough man to know that in 40 years, we'll probably know that a lot of foriegn nations knew about 911, that some folks in the USA knew, and that it happened for a lot more reasons than "they hate our freedoms".

But his job is to kick the shit out of them NOW, and that's it. Let the bloggers and historians discover who knew what, and who benefitted more. HH6's job is to blow shit up and get home to his dog, who is worth more to him than 70 million afghans.

I used to shit on him for it, but really, honestly, I love my cat more than I lover 23 million iraqis. It's true. We all play our position. He plays his well. He knows some CTs are real, but all that would is undermine the job he has do each day.

You're a moron. There are wonderful people all over this world. It would be fucking hell if the world was only populated with one race or one culture.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #38 on:** January 29, 2009, 06:47:27 AM »

Quote from: 2ND COMING on January 28, 2009, 02:31:34 PM

Hey dick weed. I talk to my buddies daily. And yes i believe more than the majority of service men under 30 years old do distrust our government. I know you'd rather be serving with zombie pushover's.

How do you explain the highest amount of donations from all service men going to ron paul? Are those guys all ct'ers too?

I serve with these guys dude....ur wrong, end of story.

MuscleMcMannus · « **Reply #39 on:** January 29, 2009, 08:19:53 AM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 29, 2009, 06:47:27 AM

I serve with these guys dude....ur wrong, end of story.

He knows what hundreds of thousands of military personnel think. LOL.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #40 on:** January 29, 2009, 02:47:11 PM »

More so then u...douche...more so the u. I'm pretty convinced a soldier took ur girl.

MuscleMcMannus · « **Reply #41 on:** January 29, 2009, 10:10:49 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 29, 2009, 02:47:11 PM

More so then u...douche...more so the u. I'm pretty convinced a soldier took ur girl.

There's a sucker born every minute. You might know plenty of soldiers that spoon fed the kool aid like yourself. But there are probably a lot more that are increasingly skeptical of their government and leaders. Here's the bottomline dipshit.....you're loyal to your government. I'm loyal to my country. There's a BIG difference. And your failure to see this difference is obvious in all of your posts and regurgitated verbal diarrhea of serving my country this and serving my country that.

P.S. I've been with my fiance for 10 years buddy.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #42 on:** January 30, 2009, 09:41:32 AM »

Do u want a cookie...I'm loyal to the constitution dipshit. Really, whats it like not to matter.

MuscleMcMannus · « **Reply #43 on:** January 30, 2009, 05:00:11 PM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 30, 2009, 09:41:32 AM

Do u want a cookie...I'm loyal to the constitution dipshit. Really, whats it like not to matter.

LMAO! Wow that's hilarious!

Slapper · « **Reply #44 on:** January 31, 2009, 05:34:49 AM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 30, 2009, 09:41:32 AM

[...]I'm loyal to the constitution[...]

How can you claim to be loyal to the constitution if you're bound (since you swore the military oath I presume) by the UCMJ? Are you talking about the GI Joe-HH6 or his civilian version? Because I hate to tell you, but your civilian version has a very bellicose and shoot-it-if-it-looks-at-you-funny attitude. I presume you can't or are unable to turn the military switch off. Anyways, I still do not understand how you can say "I am loyal" to the constitution if your rhetoric goes against some of its basic points.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #45 on:** January 31, 2009, 08:44:31 AM »

First off Slapper...I do my job. I won't burn a village or disregard the UCMJ or violate the ROE in any way. I am also free to voice my opinion on this board. Based on ur post, I know u know the difference.

Slapper · « **Reply #46 on:** January 31, 2009, 08:52:39 AM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 31, 2009, 08:44:31 AM

First off Slapper...I do my job. I won't burn a village or disregard the UCMJ or violate the ROE in any way. I am also free to voice my opinion on this board. Based on ur post, I know u know the difference.

Yes, but if your "job" entails chopping someone's head off... Do you do it because you do what you're told or not do it because you know it's wrong and goes against the constitution?

Which one of the two are you?

headhuntersix · « **Reply #47 on:** January 31, 2009, 08:58:39 AM »

My job does not in any way involve chopping heads off..or burning villages or killing civilians. No orders go out like that..no missions are planned like that and nobody would do it. In the heat of combat, people get in the way, shit happens. I never even let my guys flatten cars in Iraq, with our tanks.

Slapper · « **Reply #48 on:** January 31, 2009, 09:50:47 AM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on January 31, 2009, 08:58:39 AM

My job does not in any way involve chopping heads off..or burning villages or killing civilians.

Ok, let me ask you again: If your superiors gave you an order to level out and burn an entire village in Iraq (ala My Lai or No Gun Ri, where there were American atrocities committed against civilian refugees or captured soldiers) would you do it or drop the gun and say "no"?

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No orders go out like that[...]

What?!

You mean "ever" or just in the case of Iraq? Because I'll have you know it has happened before. Many times too.

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...no missions are planned like that and nobody would do it. In the heat of combat, people get in the way, shit happens. I never even let my guys flatten cars in Iraq, with our tanks.

I not asking you about "collateral damage", I'm asking you if you were explicitly asked to "level" a town with everything in it, would you do it?

The question is simple.

MuscleMcMannus · « **Reply #49 on:** January 31, 2009, 10:13:18 AM »

Quote from: Slapper on January 31, 2009, 09:50:47 AM

Ok, let me ask you again: If your superiors gave you an order to level out and burn an entire village in Iraq (ala My Lai or No Gun Ri, where there were American atrocities committed against civilian refugees or captured soldiers) would you do it or drop the gun and say "no"?

What?!

You mean "ever" or just in the case of Iraq? Because I'll have you know it has happened before. Many times too.

I not asking you about "collateral damage", I'm asking you if you were explicitly asked to "level" a town with everything in it, would you do it?

The question is simple.

Dude war is evil. American soldiers did some evil acts in WWII. The bombing of Dresden was at the hands of the US military. We dropped bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. I see your point but at the same time I don't think for a second a majority of soldiers would kill innocent people without question. Yes it happens and there are some shitty, morally bankrupt soldiers...........just look at Abu Graib. But to say the US military indiscriminately bombs towns and villages is unfair.