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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2009, 05:26:50 AM »
I'd toss someone like you off the bridge before I tossed the kittens. :)

I definitely would throw the kittens off the bridge before even consider doing the same to a human being, regardless of who it was.


You seem to have a much closer relation to animals than I do.

BTW, what's your take on intimate relations between man and animal?

Is it always wrong?
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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2009, 01:29:58 PM »
You seem to be one of all those complete tools who thinks animals have human qualities, like "loyalty".

Or that a dog can be "sad".

"He's got those sad eyes"

Hahahaha.

I bet you talk to your pet too?

"Hey Bud, you want to go out for a walk?" ::)




ROFLMAO.  ;D

I love dogs this was funny!

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2009, 02:56:35 PM »
Goddamn Bullshit to kill dogs just because other dogs of their breed can be violent. It would be like killing everyone in a specific race because that race has higher rates of crime or violence. It doesn't make sense. Not all pit bulls are violent, many have great temperaments.

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2009, 05:16:35 PM »
Jacques Chirac was recently mauled by his poodle (which Chirac claimed was clinically depressed  ::))

I know it's not funny but .... I still thinks it's a little bit funny

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2009, 05:51:26 PM »
You seem to be one of all those complete tools who thinks animals have human qualities, like "loyalty".

Or that a dog can be "sad".

"He's got those sad eyes"

Hahahaha.

I bet you talk to your pet too?

"Hey Bud, you want to go out for a walk?" ::)


Oh brother.

I tell you what - at least I have the decency and common sense that I know that any human life is worth more than those kittens lives.

You think a dog doesn't feel happiness or sadness, fear or anger/frustration? haha alright buddy, you are truly blind.

I can think of plenty of people whose lives are worth less than that of a lizard, you can't?

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2009, 06:01:51 PM »
Jacques Chirac was recently mauled by his poodle (which Chirac claimed was clinically depressed  ::))

I know it's not funny but .... I still thinks it's a little bit funny

haha, that was funny  :D

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2009, 03:09:18 AM »
You think a dog doesn't feel happiness or sadness, fear or anger/frustration? haha alright buddy, you are truly blind.

I can think of plenty of people whose lives are worth less than that of a lizard, you can't?

No.

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2009, 09:28:00 AM »
Why is this a sticky?

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2009, 10:23:15 AM »
Wasn't me. 

In any event, they're trying to ban them here too. 

Bill would ban owning pit bulls in Hawaii — but its chances are slim
Measure's prospects doubtful, but it angers dog owners, advocates

By Curtis Lum
Advertiser Staff Writer

The recent attack on a police officer by a mixed-breed pit bull terrier has renewed debate on whether these dogs, which have gained the reputation of being vicious and uncontrollable, have a place in society.

Several Mainland municipalities such as Denver and Maryland's Prince George's County have banned the ownership of pit bulls, following deadly attacks. San Francisco last year passed "breed-specific legislation" that mandates pit bull sterilization.

In Hawai'i, a measure has been introduced at the Legislature that would prohibit the ownership of a pit bull. If approved, it would be a misdemeanor to own, possess or sell these dogs.

But whether this bill ever gets a hearing is doubtful, according to Senate President Colleen Hanabusa, who introduced the measure. Hanabusa said SB 79 was drafted "by request," meaning a constituent asked her to do so.

With the focus of lawmakers this session on the slumping economy, Hanabusa said, the bill isn't likely to get very far.

"I do not believe that this is a bill that has a high priority, but it's going to be up to the Judiciary Committee chair," she said. "I have not heard of anyone asking or pushing the measure."

Pit bull attacks in Hawai'i are infrequent, but they have led to serious injuries and deaths. The last two high-profile attacks involved mixed-breed pit bulls.

Last October, a pit bull mix attacked and killed a baby girl as she slept in her Wai'anae home. That dog was euthanized.

On Jan. 14, a man allegedly unleashed his 70-pound pit bull mix on a police detective during a confrontation at the Kapahulu Safeway. The officer, who was bitten in the stomach, shot the dog, which later died.

Hanabusa said the request to introduce the bill followed pit bull attacks on other dogs. If anything, she added, the Legislature this year may look at tougher leash laws, rather than a ban on a specific breed.

Although the measure isn't expected to pass, it has raised the ire of pit bull owners and other animal rights organizations, who believe these animals are being unfairly targeted.

a bad reputation
Joe Borges, who raises pit bulls at his Kahalu'u home, said pit bulls are one of the most obedient and loyal dogs around. Unfortunately, he said, pit bulls, as well as other dogs such as Rottweilers and Dobermans, have been involved in highly publicized incidents that have led to a bad reputation.

"It's a smart dog and you can teach it to do a lot of things, which includes, unfortunately, people who have used them to fight and people who have used them to attack people," Borges said. "But they're also used with elderly people as a companion dog and that kind of thing. So you can do whatever you want to do. It's like a match. You can burn down a house or you can light a fire to cook dinner. It's your choice."

Borges, 50, works in construction and supplements his income by raising and selling pit bull puppies. Depending on its pedigree, a puppy can sell for $500 to $2,000, he said.

Borges and other owners and breeders are beginning to organize to fight the pit bull ban. He said he understands why Hanabusa introduced the measure and that it may not get very far, but he said he doesn't want to take any chances.

"You don't have to be a pit bull owner to organize with us. You don't actually have to be a dog owner — you can be a dog lover. Other states have gone after the pit bull and then they've gone after the Doberman, the Rottweiler and the Chow. They've even gone after the fox terrier. It's just ridiculous."

Kawehi Yim, spokeswoman for the Hawaiian Humane Society, said the organization is opposed to any proposal that would ban specific breeds.

"They're expensive to enforce and they just don't work," Yim said. "Our belief is it's the owner that makes the dog and not the dog. It goes back to just being a responsible pet owner."

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090127/NEWS01/901270351

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #59 on: January 27, 2009, 07:55:04 PM »
No.

I am a Humanist.


Humanism doesn't mean that you can't believe that non-human animals have rights and feelings and thoughts.


If given a choice between shooting my dog or Osama Bin Laden. I'd shoot Osama.

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2009, 07:56:03 PM »
Banning them would only mean that they go UNDERGROUND.

Banning them would mean that they DON'T GET TREATED FOR CONTAGIOUS DISEASES.

Banning them would mean that TONS OF INNOCENT DOGS GET PUNISHED.

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2009, 09:44:28 AM »
I'm amazed that a lot of Micheal Vicks dogs seem to have been placed with people and are doing OK.

I would have thought most of those dogs would have been permantly f'd in the head

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2009, 10:28:25 AM »
I'm amazed that a lot of Micheal Vicks dogs seem to have been placed with people and are doing OK.

I would have thought most of those dogs would have been permantly f'd in the head

Well, if you were going to take in a pitbull, even if it was a total shit, would you say anything other than it was a great dog? No owners are going to say their dogs are a problem.

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2009, 07:18:57 PM »
Well, if you were going to take in a pitbull, even if it was a total shit, would you say anything other than it was a great dog? No owners are going to say their dogs are a problem.
Do you have any first hand experience with pitbulls?

For that matter who here has any first hand experience with pits or actually owned one for 10+ years?
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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2009, 08:07:55 PM »
Do you have any first hand experience with pitbulls?

For that matter who here has any first hand experience with pits or actually owned one for 10+ years?

I was attacked by one when I was nine.other than that I had a neighbor a few years back that kept letting his run the neighborhood.And I told him if the dog walked in my yard it would not walk out.
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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2009, 08:16:09 PM »
I was attacked by one when I was nine.

So what happened?
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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2009, 08:24:11 PM »
I was attacked by one when I was nine.other than that I had a neighbor a few years back that kept letting his run the neighborhood. And I told him if the dog walked in my yard it would not walk out.

Its a dog eat bigLdawg world man.


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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #67 on: January 28, 2009, 08:30:36 PM »
So what happened?
Its a dog eat bigLdawg world man.



ha ha yea.I went to my aunt's house(her dog) with my grandmother and when we walked in the living room the dog ran and leaped for my throat.I threw my arm up and he latched on my arm his claws dug into my chest.my aunt got him off me.and that was that.the dog had no prior incidents and there was no warning signs in the 8 years that she owned him.
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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #68 on: January 28, 2009, 10:24:42 PM »
ha ha yea.I went to my aunt's house(her dog) with my grandmother and when we walked in the living room the dog ran and leaped for my throat.I threw my arm up and he latched on my arm his claws dug into my chest.my aunt got him off me.and that was that.the dog had no prior incidents and there was no warning signs in the 8 years that she owned him.

Must have been the owners. The dog would never do anything like that unless the owners made it...  ::)

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #69 on: January 29, 2009, 05:17:33 AM »
ha ha yea.I went to my aunt's house(her dog) with my grandmother and when we walked in the living room the dog ran and leaped for my throat.I threw my arm up and he latched on my arm his claws dug into my chest.my aunt got him off me.and that was that.the dog had no prior incidents and there was no warning signs in the 8 years that she owned him.
As someone that has owned pits and been around many of them for over 15 years, I find this hard to believe.
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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2009, 10:35:59 AM »
What about dalmatians?  How many people are killed by those darn dalmatians every year?   :)

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2009, 10:55:20 AM »
As someone that has owned pits and been around many of them for over 15 years, I find this hard to believe.

well sorry to here that.I am a pet owner as well.I have two dogs three cats two very large fish tanks and my kids have a couple lizards,I love animals.but for a person to think that an Animal can not snap and go sideways is kind of ignorant.
 Another story Id like to share My dads best friend had a American bulldog for 6 years.Well him and his wife had just got done having sex and in strolls the dog and hopes on the bed and starts sniffin around.He said the dog was acting very strange and went to take the dog outside.he walked down the steps but the dog didn't follow.So he goes to walk back up the steps and the dog runs down and meets him halfway and begins to growl in a way he said he never heard before.At that moment he said he knew It was either him or the dog<He yelled for his wife to shut and lock the bedroom door and at that moment the dog attacked.the Animal did a number on him  .punctured a main artery to were ever time his heart beat a pin stream of blood would squirt out.he got out of the house.the neighbors called the cops and they put the dog down.They had this dog since it was 8 weeks old.took it to obedience school,it was well socialized.never a sign of any trouble what so ever.the dog just snapped.maybe it thought  he was hurting his wife when they were having sex but who know.bottom line an animal is an animal.and they can snap and attack.And if you chose to own one that can do serious damage like a pit bull you better carry good insurance and a good lawyer.
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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #72 on: January 29, 2009, 11:53:03 AM »
A lot of people will cross breed pitbulls with American bulldogs and claim them to be ABs. Lots do it to get around homeowner associations and local bans.

Some home loans will require pitbull owners to have extra insurance, so the people just lie about the breed to get around their assumed responsibilities.

American Bulldogs are NOT Pitbulls. There is no similarity besides size. I have an AB.

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #73 on: January 29, 2009, 12:41:47 PM »
What about dalmatians?  How many people are killed by those darn dalmatians every year?   :)

lol.  Chihuahuas either.  :)

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Re: All pitbulls banned in Montana?
« Reply #74 on: January 29, 2009, 12:42:51 PM »
In today's Advertiser.   :-\

Pit bull attacks hospitalize 2 women

By Will Hoover
Advertiser Staff Writer

Two O'ahu men face dangerous-dog charges after their pit bulls attacked two women in separate incidents Tuesday, Honolulu police said yesterday.

 Bryan Cheplic, spokesman for the city's Emergency Medical Services, said both women were hospitalized in serious condition as a result of dog bites.

The attacks came on the same day a measure was introduced in the state Legislature to prohibit ownership of pit bulls in Hawai'i.

The first dog attack happened around 11:45 a.m. near Kapolei High School. But police said the incident began earlier when two 3-year-old blue nose pit bulls tried to attack security guards at the school.

The dogs had been running loose in the area and suddenly rushed the guards, who managed to positioned a golf cart between themselves and the dogs, police said. The guards chased the dogs away.

The pit bulls then attacked a 59-year-old woman in her driveway on Kama'aha Avenue. The woman suffered lacerations to her right leg and left hand. Police said she fought the dogs off by punching them.

The woman was taken to Hawaii Medical Center West in serious condition. The case was turned over to HPD's criminal investigation division, police said.

Kawehi Yim, spokeswoman for the Hawaiian Humane Society, said the owner of the dogs voluntarily turned the pair over to the facility, where they were still being held yesterday.

Later Tuesday, at around 4:15 p.m., a Kalihi woman, said to be in her 60s, was attacked in her Kilohi Street driveway by a 60-pound brown pit bull. The woman was treated for wounds at the scene and taken to The Queen's Medical Center in serious condition, police said.

The dog owner, a neighbor, was issued a dangerous-dog citation. Although the Humane Society responded to the incident, the dog owner elected to keep the pit bull confined at his home, police said.

Although infrequent, pit bull attacks have caused serious and even fatal injuries in Hawai'i. In October 2008, a mixed pit bull killed a baby girl in her Wai'anae home as she slept.

The bill that would prohibit owning a pit bull follows an incident Jan. 14 when a man allegedly turned his 70-pound pit bull loose on a police detective during a confrontation. The officer was bitten on the stomach and shot the dog, which later died.

Pit bull attacks have led a number of Mainland municipalities to ban or restrict ownership of the breed.

However, Humane Society spokeswoman Yim said the agency does not support prohibition of any specific breed of dog.

"It makes no sense for legislation to profile aggression by a breed," she said. "Even the friendliest dog can become aggressive in the wrong situation. For us, it really is a matter of the owner's responsibility."

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090129/NEWS01/901290351&s=d&page=5