All pitbulls banned in Montana?

[MuscleMcMannus]

Anyone here about this bill HB 191 that just passed in Montana supposedly.  They will outlaw all pitbulls, round up the ones existing and euthanize them. .......WTF?  I think it's a dangerous breed in the hands of irresponsible owners but they shouldn't be outlawed and least of all fucking rounded up and killed.  WTF is wrong with this country?

[Hedgehog]

Anyone here about this bill HB 191 that just passed in Montana supposedly.  They will outlaw all pitbulls, round up the ones existing and euthanize them. .......WTF?  I think it's a dangerous breed in the hands of irresponsible owners but they shouldn't be outlawed and least of all fucking rounded up and killed.  WTF is wrong with this country?

These tough guy wannabe dog owners had it coming.

Give them neutered Golden Retrievers instead.

[MuscleMcMannus]

These tough guy wannabe dog owners had it coming.

Give them neutered Golden Retrievers instead.

So you think everyone that owns a pitbull is a tough guy wannabe dog owner?  Come on bro.  Don't be so fucking dumb.  That's like saying because there are dumbass gun owners we should get rid of the 2nd amendment? 

[Hedgehog]

So you think everyone that owns a pitbull is a tough guy wannabe dog owner?  Come on bro.  Don't be so fucking dumb.  That's like saying because there are dumbass gun owners we should get rid of the 2nd amendment? 

Do we need pitbulls?

No.

Are there other, more stable breeds?

Yes.

BTW, I'm no big fan of pets in general.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Do we need pitbulls?

No.

Are there other, more stable breeds?

Yes.

BTW, I'm no big fan of pets in general.

Come on dude.  Your logic is completely flawed and unAmerican.  Pitbulls are a very amazing breed and in the right hands are great dogs. 

[Hedgehog]

Come on dude.  Your logic is completely flawed and unAmerican.  Pitbulls are a very amazing breed and in the right hands are great dogs. 

Ok.

I'm gonna try the Obama-way on this one.

Change.

Let's give the pitbulls a chance.

Better?

[Hereford]

Come on dude.  Your logic is completely flawed and unAmerican.  Pitbulls are a very amazing breed and in the right hands are great dogs. 

Nobody needs a fuucking pitbull.

I'll bet 95% of them are in the hands of people who have no business having pets at all, let alone a killer dog breed.

Nice, happy middle class suburbanites do not have these animals.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Nobody needs a fuucking pitbull.

I'll bet 95% of them are in the hands of people who have no business having pets at all, let alone a killer dog breed.

Nice, happy middle class suburbanites do not have these animals.

So we should outlaw them for the other 5% of the population?  That makes absolutely zero sense.  Many people have no business owning guns.  Guns kill a helluva lot more people than Pitbulls including kids.  But I don't hear you banning guns.  Hypocrites.

[Hedgehog]

Why is this even a sticky?

Sticky about dogs?

Cry me a fcuking river.

It's not like there aren't more important things to worry about.

Like world economy and middle eastern crisis, eg.

People spend waaaay too much attention and money on some fcuking animals.

How about all pet owners euthanize their pets and send their "pet money" to fcuking Africa instead.

[Dan-O]

Why is this even a sticky?

Sticky about dogs?

Cry me a fcuking river.

It's not like there aren't more important things to worry about.

Like world economy and middle eastern crisis, eg.

People spend waaaay too much attention and money on some fcuking animals.

How about all pet owners euthanize their pets and send their "pet money" to fcuking Africa instead.

lmao

[Hedgehog]

lmao

I'm serious.

If all pet owners would "put away" their "darlings" and instead spend that money and time on more important things like... other humans, the world economy would be saved in an instant.

I'm sure the environment would be better off as well from the reduction in pet food production.

Honestly, how can a pet owner justify feeding an animal when there are humans starving?

[Dan-O]

I'm serious.

If all pet owners would "put away" their "darlings" and instead spend that money and time on more important things like... other humans, the world economy would be saved in an instant.

I'm sure the environment would be better off as well from the reduction in pet food production.

Honestly, how can a pet owner justify feeding an animal when there are humans starving?

Some people (like certain x-board denizens) prefer animals to people.  Not naming any names, but you know.

[Dos Equis]

I don't think I'd ban the dogs.  I'd maybe increase and enforce penalties for people who turn them into killing machines.

That said, hard to ignore the danger these breeds pose to the public. 

[tonymctones]

its a problem like a lot of others that is sensationalized by the media and spurs ppl who dont know the details into action. I dont believe in dog bans however i do believe in strict penalties for ppl who are irresponsible and whos irresponsibilities lend themselves to bad situations. If you ban pits, they will go get rotties or mastiffs and sooner or later ppl will be clamoring for bans on those breeds as well. Its not necissarily the dog although certain breeds can be more aggressive then others its the ppl that let the off their lead or dont understand that breeds like that need to be trained and socialized that are the main problem.

[Bindare_Dundat]

I own an American Staff. The best dog I ever owned. I take all the precautions that anyone owning a medium/large dog breed of that nature should. Never leave it unattended in public. Don't let kids near it and don't let unknown dogs near him.

Funny enough, it's the other douchbags that walk around with their "safe" dogs unleashed that give me the most trouble. "My dog is friendly, he just wants to play.", while it's snarling and dry humping my dogs face  . That's fine, just put him back on the leash like the law states and keep him the fuck away from my dog. Thanks.

By the way, what is the ratio of Pitbulls population to Pitbull attacks in America anyway. 1,000,000 to 1. Huge threat. 

[Bindare_Dundat]

I'll bet 95% of them are in the hands of people who have no business having pets at all, let alone a killer dog breed.

Wrong.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Honestly, how can a pet owner justify feeding an animal when there are humans starving?

oh boy. This coming from a guy who visits a bodybuilding board, where the main goal of most men and woman is to fill themselves up with unnatural amounts of food just to get bigger than everyone else and dance around in their underware on a stage. Go start a getbig protest to stop promoting this gluttonous behavior Mother Theresa. 

[Eyeball Chambers]

This is crazy... Anyone know if it's true? 

[marcus]

It's not the breed its the owner. We're looking like Europe more and more every day.

[MuscleMcMannus]

This is crazy... Anyone know if it's true? 

I haven't looked up if the bill passed but look up HB 191. 

[Hedgehog]

Some people (like certain x-board denizens) prefer animals to people.  Not naming any names, but you know.

LOL.

Imagine what they'd do if they would see these posts of mine.

I'd be kibble before you knew it.




Or maybe raw meat.

[24KT]

When they banned them here in Ontario, they had all owners register and neuter/spay their pets. Those who did were allowed to keep them, but there was a ban on further importation of the animals into the province. When they announced it, a whole whack of people turned their animals over to the Humane Society, and there was a mad rush to adopt them out because after a certain date they were all going to be euthanized.

[Hereford]

So we should outlaw them for the other 5% of the population?  That makes absolutely zero sense.  Many people have no business owning guns.  Guns kill a helluva lot more people than Pitbulls including kids.  But I don't hear you banning guns.  Hypocrites.

Gee Whiz I dunno. They banned assault rifles because 5% (probably less) used them in a bad way.

A lot of those people did not have any business owning guns, you're right. However in this country these days, nobody will do anything to regualte people, the government instead regulates things.

Pitbulls are animals that were developed and bred to be killers. Neither you, nor anyone else needs one.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Gee Whiz I dunno. They banned assault rifles because 5% (probably less) used them in a bad way.

A lot of those people did not have any business owning guns, you're right. However in this country these days, nobody will do anything to regualte people, the government instead regulates things.

Pitbulls are animals that were developed and bred to be killers. Neither you, nor anyone else needs one.

   You know nothing about the breed.  Would I own a pitbull?  No of course not.  I don't have the time, discipline, dedication, etc. to give it what it needs in order to be a well adjusted, obedient dog.  That's the problem.  It's the owners not the breed. 


The American Temperament Testing Society shows a pass percentage of 84.3% for American Pit Bull Terrier.[5] Still, a firm, even hand and early obedience training are best. They generally have a lot of energy and high prey drive; they need exercise and stimulation in order to channel their energy properly and not become frustrated, bored, and destructive. Additionally, APBTs can often display dog aggression - especially towards unfamiliar dogs of the same sex or level of assertiveness - so early socialization and good training are needed.Being intelligent, athletic dogs[7], American Pit Bull Terriers excel in many dog sports, including weight pulling, dog agility, flyball, lure coursing and advanced obedience competition. Some pit bulls have been known to do well in schutzhund as well. Out of the 25 dogs who have earned UKC "superdog" status (by gaining championship titles in conformation, obedience, agility, and weightpull), fourteen have been pit bulls.

The American Pit Bull Terrier is a working dog and is suitable for a wide range of working disciplines due to their intelligence, high energy and endurance. In the United States they have been used as search and rescue dogs that save lives,[8] police dogs performing narcotics and explosives detection,[9][10] Border Patrol dogs, hearing dogs to provide services to the deaf, as well as general service dogs.

[Bindare_Dundat]

  You know nothing about the breed and have no clue what you are talking about.  Some issues you make some good points.  But this is one where you are obviously talking out of your ass.  Would I own a pitbull?  No of course not.  I don't have the time, discipline, dedication, etc. to give it what it needs in order to be a well adjusted, obedient dog.  That's the problem.  It's the owners not the breed. 


The American Temperament Testing Society shows a pass percentage of 84.3% for American Pit Bull Terrier.[5] Still, a firm, even hand and early obedience training are best. They generally have a lot of energy and high prey drive; they need exercise and stimulation in order to channel their energy properly and not become frustrated, bored, and destructive. Additionally, APBTs can often display dog aggression - especially towards unfamiliar dogs of the same sex or level of assertiveness - so early socialization and good training are needed.Being intelligent, athletic dogs[7], American Pit Bull Terriers excel in many dog sports, including weight pulling, dog agility, flyball, lure coursing and advanced obedience competition. Some pit bulls have been known to do well in schutzhund as well. Out of the 25 dogs who have earned UKC "superdog" status (by gaining championship titles in conformation, obedience, agility, and weightpull), fourteen have been pit bulls.

The American Pit Bull Terrier is a working dog and is suitable for a wide range of working disciplines due to their intelligence, high energy and endurance. In the United States they have been used as search and rescue dogs that save lives,[8] police dogs performing narcotics and explosives detection,[9][10] Border Patrol dogs, hearing dogs to provide services to the deaf, as well as general service dogs.

You took the words outta my mouth.

Blame the dog for mans fvck ups.