Anything Better than More Test?

[abc123]

With the exception of Tren, unless you are competing or need something for your joints, isn't always better to add more test rather than other types of AAS?

I can see Deca for the joints.  I can see winny, halotestin, etc. for contests.  But, other than that, why use them?

Anavar is a perfect example.  Even at 100mg per day is it really better than adding another 100mg - 200mg of Test?  And, to replace orals like dbol and drol why not just use Prop?

I know there are some synergies and we all have our favorite stacks.  But, otherwise, would it really ever be better to add any of those AAS if you have more Test available?

[tbombz]

i agree with  you for the most part.

like you said though, tren has some effects test doesnt. for me, mkainly, the agression. thats kick ass from tren. but now i would only use tren enan, not tren ace, because i think tren enen would eliminate the chance of the 'cough'.

i think deca is good, if your on winny,,, those two seem two be a good combo...

dbol is one oral...very ceap...hass A different type of 'fel good' feeling to it... i think itss cheap enough that it could be used...but then again.. prop is pretty cheap too.. at least if we are talking about production costs..






if you look at all the best mass aas...they all aromatize... and thats one of the reasons why they are the best mass drugs... how anabolic a hormone is also a indication of its potential for mass....androgen does contriute through strength gains which yeilds more stimulation in workouts.... but id say androgen is third to anabolic and aromitization in terms of contributing to hypertrophy.....     

so, ^ that being said...    if looking for mass, its very wise to have aromitization.. and the best oen for that, as its the cheapest, natural to the body, and arguably the best al around, would be test.   now, once one has a base of estrogen from test, then yyou could add in a bunch of highly anabolic aas.... like maybe halotestin (i believe halotestin has the highest anabolic rating ...along with a very high androgenic rating)..... and then you ciould have the muscler 'quality' of something like a equipoise-anavar stack..but the size of a test-deca-dbol stak.,...

[Stavios]

i agree with  you for the most part.

like you said though, tren has some effects test doesnt. for me, mkainly, the agression. thats kick ass from tren. but now i would only use tren enan, not tren ace, because i think tren enen would eliminate the chance of the 'cough'.

i think deca is good, if your on winny,,, those two seem two be a good combo...

dbol is one oral...very ceap...hass A different type of 'fel good' feeling to it... i think itss cheap enough that it could be used...but then again.. prop is pretty cheap too.. at least if we are talking about production costs..






if you look at all the best mass aas...they all aromatize... and thats one of the reasons why they are the best mass drugs... how anabolic a hormone is also a indication of its potential for mass....androgen does contriute through strength gains which yeilds more stimulation in workouts.... but id say androgen is third to anabolic and aromitization in terms of contributing to hypertrophy.....     

so, ^ that being said...    if looking for mass, its very wise to have aromitization.. and the best oen for that, as its the cheapest, natural to the body, and arguably the best al around, would be test.   now, once one has a base of estrogen from test, then yyou could add in a bunch of highly anabolic aas.... like maybe halotestin (i believe halotestin has the highest anabolic rating ...along with a very high androgenic rating)..... and then you ciould have the muscler 'quality' of something like a equipoise-anavar stack..but the size of a test-deca-dbol stak.,...

yeah I am trying to gain a bit of muscles in the next 4 weeks but my tits were hurting so I stopped nolvadex and started letrozole.

I took only 2 2.5mg pills this week and it's gone. CRAZY stuff !!
but, do you think I should stop it only my tits start hurting again while I am trying to gain a bit of muscle ?
(4 additional weeks will be enough for some good gains before dieting IMO, my body is responding like crazy since I got back on)

[Van_Bilderass]

.... like maybe halotestin (i believe halotestin has the highest anabolic rating ...along with a very high androgenic rating)..... and then you ciould have the muscler 'quality' of something like a equipoise-anavar stack..but the size of a test-deca-dbol stak.,...

From what I've read the anabolic indices are based on levator ani rat studies (androgenic index judged on rat prostate effects) and don't always correspond well to real world human effects.

[tbombz]

but, do you think I should stop it only my tits start hurting again while I am trying to gain a bit of muscle ?

yeah... it really slow gains...and a bit of gyno aint so bad anyway...  your nipples wont be useless in sex any more 

From what I've read the anabolic indices are based on levator ani rat studies (androgenic index judged on rat prostate effects) and don't always correspond well to real world human effects.

what do you think is the most anabolic

[Van_Bilderass]

what do you think is the most anabolic

You mean mg for mg on dry muscle protein gained? I don't know man, but halo isn't it, I don't think. 

[Stavios]

mg per mg, I heard Anavar was pretty hard to beat

[tbombz]

You mean mg for mg on dry muscle protein gained? I don't know man, but halo isn't it, I don't think. 

muscle...i always thought the "i wannaa gain lean muscle" thing was silly...what, you goin to gain 'fatty muscle" ? haha.... anyway...   halo had the high anabolic rating...which to me said that it worked the best for signaling pathways to retain nitrogen and synthesize protein..

[DIVISION]

With the exception of Tren, unless you are competing or need something for your joints, isn't always better to add more test rather than other types of AAS?

I can see Deca for the joints.  I can see winny, halotestin, etc. for contests.  But, other than that, why use them?

Anavar is a perfect example.  Even at 100mg per day is it really better than adding another 100mg - 200mg of Test?  And, to replace orals like dbol and drol why not just use Prop?

I know there are some synergies and we all have our favorite stacks.  But, otherwise, would it really ever be better to add any of those AAS if you have more Test available?

Chad,

Test is your base, period.

Depending on your goals, you can use an adjunct of several anabolics.

In your case, given your lifestyle, I think Tren and Winstrol would benefit you greatly.

You're not an athlete and you've got a rather cushy life.   


DIV

[Emmortal]

muscle...i always thought the "i wannaa gain lean muscle" thing was silly...what, you goin to gain 'fatty muscle" ? haha.... anyway...   halo had the high anabolic rating...which to me said that it worked the best for signaling pathways to retain nitrogen and synthesize protein..

Like Van said, it doesn't always translate to humans well.  Halo's biggest advantage is it's anti-cortisol effects which makes it prime for using during a contest prep, not really for gaining muscle mass.

[Emmortal]

You mean mg for mg on dry muscle protein gained? I don't know man, but halo isn't it, I don't think. 

I think Superdrol is pretty up there, not sure where it ranks exactly but you can run a very effective cycle at only 20mg ED.

[DIVISION]

Like Van said, it doesn't always translate to humans well.  Halo's biggest advantage is it's anti-cortisol effects which makes it prime for using during a contest prep, not really for gaining muscle mass.

Halo is a performance enhancing androgen.

Great for powerlifting......as it channels the CNS better than anything out there.

I love Halo, but only use it every so often......

It's special.


DIV

[chixlegs]

Its hard to beat some good old fashioned Dianabol.

Die big
Die strong
Dianabol

[Emmortal]

as it channels the CNS better than anything out there.


DIV

Not sure what you mean by this?

[DIVISION]

Not sure what you mean by this?

Halo being a strong androgen stimulates the CNS better than other AAS.

When I use it, the quality of my maxes is much better than when I'm on something like Winstrol.

I can't explain the mechanism of action, but it stimulates the CNS in a different way making it more applicable to strength rather than simply anabolism.


DIV

[StillTippin]

Halo being a strong androgen stimulates the CNS better than other AAS.

When I use it, the quality of my maxes is much better than when I'm on something like Winstrol.

I can't explain the mechanism of action, but it stimulates the CNS in a different way making it more applicable to strength rather than simply anabolism.


DIV

When it acts on the CNS in this way does it give you a better "mind-muscle connection" as they say?  Or does it just help the CNS recover better and not get burned out from prolonged intense lifting?

[Exal]

your strenght is almost 90% based on how well your CNS is optimised at activating your muscles...

Halo is one of the best steroids at optimising your CNS

[DIVISION]

When it acts on the CNS in this way does it give you a better "mind-muscle connection" as they say?  Or does it just help the CNS recover better and not get burned out from prolonged intense lifting?

Exactly, Tipster.

It burns out the CNS as well because of the nature of my lifts.

Anything dealing with max lifts and low reps burns out the CNS.


DIV