Pelosi says something we can all agree on!

[240 is Back]

You really think these women, who receive money per kid, are going to turn it down for $500?

Is every method of birth control 100% effective?

Depo is the cheap one.  Every 3 months. 
99.7% success rate.

So you reduce 299 out of 300 pregnancies? 
Good rate there. 

pay them $150 bucks every 3 months to get the shot.  You can be that some moms would be line on the 1st of that month to get their 'shot check'.

[marcus]

Why not just get rid of welfare?  What's her take on capital punishment?

[tonymctones]

Depo is the cheap one.  Every 3 months. 
99.7% success rate.

So you reduce 299 out of 300 pregnancies? 
Good rate there. 

pay them $150 bucks every 3 months to get the shot.  You can be that some moms would be line on the 1st of that month to get their 'shot check'.

who is eligible for this? High school kids, college kids? LOL every single female out there who didnt want kids would do this, the money we would spend for it would negate any savings we got from it.

Why not just get rid of welfare?  What's her take on capital punishment?

I agree for the most part but not all together welfare has its place but it is abused to much in its current condition.

[240 is Back]

Why not just get rid of welfare? 

Cause suddenly 10% of our population - or 30 million people - are going to be starving.

And they will shit all over OUR quality of life by stealing from stores, begging on every corner, dying on our streets, bringing disease, and all that.


ya gotta think about that... we won't be safe if 1 in 10 people in society is starving.

[Cap]

Depo is the cheap one.  Every 3 months. 
99.7% success rate.

So you reduce 299 out of 300 pregnancies? 
Good rate there. 

pay them $150 bucks every 3 months to get the shot.  You can be that some moms would be line on the 1st of that month to get their 'shot check'.

I wonder how they would feel about that amount of money compared to what they get for each child.

Does anyone know how much you get, on average, per child from welfare?

[Straw Man]

DRUDGE:
PELOSI SAYS BIRTH CONTROL WILL HELP ECONOMY

She's right.  Start handing out birth control pills to those welfare moms that have 6 kids because the check gets bigger with every new kid.

Is there ANYONE who would prefer let these idiots keep breeding?

birth control, healthcare, family planning etc... should be promoted to all human beings and it will benefit us all as a group, regardless of our myopic affiliations

[tonymctones]

I wonder how they would feel about that amount of money compared to what they get for each child.

Does anyone know how much you get, on average, per child from welfare?

its been on here before i believe im not quite sure, Im still curious of who would be qualified for this the number of women in the U.S.

Say there are around 100 million women in the US, say 80 million are still capable of breeding, say 40 million just do be conservative are actually trying to get pregnant(meaning they would say no to the shots), that leaves 40 more million women capable or breeding but not wanting a child so 150(a person)x40,000,000=6,000,000,000(if my maths not off)every 3 months so 6,000,000,000x4=24,000,000,000 a year...anybody know how much we spend in welfare per year?

[Cap]

birth control, healthcare, family planning etc... should be promoted to all human beings and it will benefit us all as a group, regardless of our myopic affiliations

Seriously, what dumbass in this age doesn't know about some form of contraception?

its been on here before i believe im not quite sure, Im still curious of who would be qualified for this the number of women in the U.S.

Say there are around 100 million women in the US, say 80 million are still capable of breeding, say 40 million just do be conservative are actually trying to get pregnant(meaning they would say no to the shots), that leaves 40 more million women capable or breeding but not wanting a child so 150(a person)x40,000,000=6,000,000,000(if my maths not off)every 3 months so 6,000,000,000x4=24,000,000,000 a year...anybody know how much we spend in welfare per year?

http://www.usaspending.gov/  That's one place to start.

Welfare http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/data-reports/caseload/caseload_current.htm

[marcus]

I don't mean get rid of it all together but get rid of the abuses.

[Soul Crusher]

birth control, healthcare, family planning etc... should be promoted to all human beings and it will benefit us all as a group, regardless of our myopic affiliations

Let your tax dollars pay for everyone for everything everywhere.

I am sick of this garbage and we are gettin g bled to death one paper cut at a time by these liberal mental patients. 

Seriously, we need more productive taxpayers, not less.  Out welfare receipients to work 8 -10 hours a day and they wont have the time or the effort to have more kids.

Let them pick up trash, paint over graffitti, etc.

Who is against that?

Unions, Govt employees, "minority leaders", and the rest of the left wing clowns off their meds.

[Hedgehog]

Let your tax dollars pay for everyone for everything everywhere.

I am sick of this garbage and we are gettin g bled to death one paper cut at a time by these liberal mental patients. 

Seriously, we need more productive taxpayers, not less.  Out welfare receipients to work 8 -10 hours a day and they wont have the time or the effort to have more kids.

Let them pick up trash, paint over graffitti, etc.

Who is against that?

Unions, Govt employees, "minority leaders", and the rest of the left wing clowns off their meds.

You want more productive tax payers.

I agree with that.

I suppose you support spending more money on preventive measures to keep kids out of crime?

Studies shows that on average every kid that grows up to become an outsider of the society, eg a criminal or a drug addict, costs on average around $2.5 million dollars during his lifetime for the taxpayers.

I guess you also support spending more money on prisons, having fewer inmates per prison and more resources towards breaking up gang structure, et al.

Seeing prisoners as potential future tax payers and productive units.

I also suppose you support spending more on public schools to raise the general level of education.

And also that you support the volunteer program that Obama is gonna launch for all the kids in USA, letting them pick up thrash, wash graffiti et al. Learn to show respect for grown ups.

[Soul Crusher]

I disagree with you that those things will help the problem.

[Hedgehog]

I disagree with you that those things will help the problem.

I don't understand how you reason?

In one instance you seem to think that welfare recipients would be better off if they would do something constructive and have routines.

And I definitely think you are right. That would install some character, some sense of self-importance and fortitude in those persons. Moral.

But you have a totally different type of reason for kids, prisoners, and others?

What gives?

[shootfighter1]

Giving free depo shots in low income areas make a lot of sense on several levels.  The burden of responsibility for contraception is less, which is good because many low income people don't make great decisions and are not as responsible as they should be.  Depo provera shots are relatively cheap, cheaper than a bunch of condoms, they are slightly more effective and every 3 months, as 240 said.  With the democrats pushing more government programs, we'll be financially screwed if there continues to be a population expansion from empoverished families.

I just don't think this, or any other non-stimulus measures, should be passed in an economic stimulus emergency package.  Pelosi's idea of millions of dollars of free condoms is stupid.
While family planning sounds good, one study recently in the news found that it did not create any financial savings and wasn't very effective.  It has to start in the home IMO.  Change the culture and behavior.

[Soul Crusher]

These people , whoever and wherever they are, need to be accountable and show up to work every day or not eat. 

[headhuntersix]

In any event the Dems are dropping it from the bail-out bill.

[Soul Crusher]

In any event the Dems are dropping it from the bail-out bill.

I am really shocked so far how screwed up obama and the dems are.  If this is the garbage we have to endure for 4 years, people are going to beg for Bush to come back.

[Mark Kerr]

DRUDGE:
PELOSI SAYS BIRTH CONTROL WILL HELP ECONOMY

She's right.  Start handing out birth control pills to those welfare moms that have 6 kids because the check gets bigger with every new kid.

Is there ANYONE who would prefer let these idiots keep breeding?

All this would do is promote abortion as a form of birth control.

You think that is right?

[Hedgehog]

In any event the Dems are dropping it from the bail-out bill.

Wow.
I have to admit that I didn't think Obama had that in him.
He showed Pelosi and Reid, and anyone else who's the Man.
Obama sort of grows on you every day.
Impressive guy, kinda like Putin, but he's democratic.

[Soul Crusher]

Pelosi: Obamacare Is ‘A Right’
 CNSNews ^

Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 2:00:16 PM by Sub-Driver

Pelosi: Obamacare Is ‘A Right’ By Terence P. Jeffrey June 8, 2012

(CNSNews.com) - House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D.-Calif.) said at her Thursday press briefing that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act—AKA Obamacre—is not a privilege but “a right.”

At the same time, Pelosi also said Social Security and Medicare are rights.

Key elements of Obamacare include a provision requiring all individuals to purchase government-approved health-care plans, taxpayer-funded transfer payments to finance the purchase of health-care plans by individuals and families who earn less than 400 percent of the federal poverty level, and a regulation that requires all health-care plans to cover, without any fees or co-pay, sterilizations, contraceptives and abortifacients for all women with “reproductive capacity."

A majority of the nation’s state governments challenged Obamacare in federal court, arguing that the federal government does not have the constitutional authority to force individuals to purchase health insurance. The Supreme Court is expected to rule on these challenges by the end of this month.

Pelosi made her statement that Obamacare is a “right” in response to a reporter who asked her about a CBS News/New York Times poll that showed 41 percent of Americans want the Supreme Court to overturn the law in its entirety while another 27 percent want the Supreme Court to throw out the individual mandate and keep the rest of the law.

“Why do you think that is and what does that say in terms of the chance that the Supreme Court will strike it down?” the reporter asked Pelosi.


(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...

[doison]

luke had a great idea.

Hey, you can give a guy all the vitamins and protein in the world (new jobs).  But if he has a bleeding gash, he isn't going to heal or grow any stronger.

Stop the bleeding.  TEN PERCENT of the USA gets food stamps. If 5 years of reduced poor breeding (LOL!) you'd have it at what, 8%?

Now, let's compare the investment $ vs [the price of those 2% of welfare saved]

Those numbers would be interesting.

Change that to 0% and you've got yourself a pretty decent band-aid.

Seriously...we have to buy food for people?  
Every dumb ass form of life on earth can find a way to survive without someone else buying them food...but 10% of the food chain's apex predator needs fucking food stamps?

Shouldn't the inability to keep yourself from starving to death unless food is brought to you have been bred out of the gene pool long ago?  What kind of fucking salesman got the public to buy into the concept of food stamps?

"Listen up congress...we're on the verge of seeing nearly half of our poorest citizens feel an occasional hunger pang.  If we don't act fast, some of them will not be morbidly obese for much longer.  The only way to save this from happening is to mail $1,000 each month in the form of food "stamps" to the homes we have bought for them.

These stamps will only be able to be used to purchase food...or booze...or an occasional pair of truck-stop sun glasses.  The free money we give to them each month in welfare is no longer enough, forcing many to make the choice to either cut off their 'HBO plus Showtime' cable package or buy the small bag of flamin' hot Cheetos with their groceries.
The only answer is to give them more money, but in a separate envelop and in the form of a stamp so that they aren't burdened with worrying about spending it on the wrong thing."


Fucking food stamps.  Every one of those 10% is fat as shit...and still sells half their monthly allotment for extra cash.  Who the fuck really believes a 300lb woman needs more free food?