Hamas does not want peace in Gaza

[Ron]

Hamas on Sunday flatly rejected an Israeli proposal for a 10-year ceasefire that includes an agreement to completely open the crossings into the region in exchange for the freedom of kidnapped IDF soldier Gilad Shalit.

The Israeli proposal, as conveyed by Egyptian intelligence chief Omar Suleiman to the Hamas delegation in Cairo, also included the release of 1,050 Palestinian Authority terrorists and prisoners to sweeten the deal.

The Israeli proposal was presented by Defense Ministry director of diplomatic security Amos Gilad.

Speaking from Gaza, spokesman Ismail Radwan told reporters Sunday that such a long truce would "kill the resistance, which is the Palestinian people's legitimate right as long as the occupation continues to exist."

[Eyeball Chambers]

Maybe it's time for them to take care of Hamas once and for all. 

[MuscleMcMannus]

Hamas on Sunday flatly rejected an Israeli proposal for a 10-year ceasefire that includes an agreement to completely open the crossings into the region in exchange for the freedom of kidnapped IDF soldier Gilad Shalit.

The Israeli proposal, as conveyed by Egyptian intelligence chief Omar Suleiman to the Hamas delegation in Cairo, also included the release of 1,050 Palestinian Authority terrorists and prisoners to sweeten the deal.

The Israeli proposal was presented by Defense Ministry director of diplomatic security Amos Gilad.

Speaking from Gaza, spokesman Ismail Radwan told reporters Sunday that such a long truce would "kill the resistance, which is the Palestinian people's legitimate right as long as the occupation continues to exist."

  

[grab an umbrella]

 

Why are you skeptical?  Who always breaks the treaties that Israel and Hamas make?

[Nordic Superman]

 

Rolling eyes, the final form of a rebuttal from a moron.

[mightymouse72]

Hamas on Sunday flatly rejected an Israeli proposal for a 10-year ceasefire that includes an agreement to completely open the crossings into the region in exchange for the freedom of kidnapped IDF soldier Gilad Shalit.

The Israeli proposal, as conveyed by Egyptian intelligence chief Omar Suleiman to the Hamas delegation in Cairo, also included the release of 1,050 Palestinian Authority terrorists and prisoners to sweeten the deal.

The Israeli proposal was presented by Defense Ministry director of diplomatic security Amos Gilad.

Speaking from Gaza, spokesman Ismail Radwan told reporters Sunday that such a long truce would "kill the resistance, which is the Palestinian people's legitimate right as long as the occupation continues to exist."

This is not a surprise.

And yet, in the view of most of the world, Israel still takes the brunt of criticism for creating the violence.

You can't negotiate with people who scream for your destruction.   

[Eyeball Chambers]

Fuck you're avatar is annoying if you are an American. 

In the same way a Mexican/US, Irish/US, German/US, etc.... flag would be...

[IFBBwannaB]

Hamas on Sunday flatly rejected an Israeli proposal for a 10-year ceasefire that includes an agreement to completely open the crossings into the region in exchange for the freedom of kidnapped IDF soldier Gilad Shalit.

The Israeli proposal, as conveyed by Egyptian intelligence chief Omar Suleiman to the Hamas delegation in Cairo, also included the release of 1,050 Palestinian Authority terrorists and prisoners to sweeten the deal.

The Israeli proposal was presented by Defense Ministry director of diplomatic security Amos Gilad.

Speaking from Gaza, spokesman Ismail Radwan told reporters Sunday that such a long truce would "kill the resistance, which is the Palestinian people's legitimate right as long as the occupation continues to exist."

Also, Hamas attacked an Israeli military patrol on the Gaza strip border and killed 2 soldiers.

I hope Israel will start carpet bombing, I see no other way with them.

[MCWAY]

This is not a surprise.

And yet, in the view of most of the world, Israel still takes the brunt of criticism for creating the violence.

You can't negotiate with people who scream for your destruction.   

Deja vu, all over again (see the Amalekites from the Old Testament).

[Fury]

Got a source for this, Ron? I don't see anything on cnn or any of the other sites.

[24KT]

Hamas on Sunday flatly rejected an Israeli proposal for a 10-year ceasefire that includes an agreement to completely open the crossings into the region in exchange for the freedom of kidnapped IDF soldier Gilad Shalit.

The Israeli proposal, as conveyed by Egyptian intelligence chief Omar Suleiman to the Hamas delegation in Cairo, also included the release of 1,050 Palestinian Authority terrorists and prisoners to sweeten the deal.

The Israeli proposal was presented by Defense Ministry director of diplomatic security Amos Gilad.

Speaking from Gaza, spokesman Ismail Radwan told reporters Sunday that such a long truce would "kill the resistance, which is the Palestinian people's legitimate right as long as the occupation continues to exist."

I think that's the deal breaker there. Most people will reject most any proposal if it doesn't address their desires.

Hamas doesn't care about open border crossings, ...they smuggle what they need in through tunnels all over Gaza.

They want Israel out of Gaza, ...and until that solution is offered to them, I doubt they'll be accepting very many offers.

[Ron]

Why are you skeptical?  Who always breaks the treaties that Israel and Hamas make?

Usually Hamas, especially this time since they killed an Israeli solder on patrol in Israel, after they agreed to a cease-firee, which has now infurieted the top guys in the army because they didn't finish what they needed to, and stayed in Gaza in strategic areas until a formal cease fire treaty was established.

Israel offers 10 years of peace, opening the borders, getting countries to rebuild Gaza, but to Hamas, they can't have this, because the Palestinian people might realize that they like having peace, food and water, some fun and more.  They can't control people like that, only by fear.

Obviously, their response was to attack Israel again and kill people.

[24KT]

Usually Hamas, especially this time since they killed an Israeli solder on patrol in Israel, after they agreed to a cease-firee, which has now infurieted the top guys in the army because they didn't finish what they needed to, and stayed in Gaza in strategic areas until a formal cease fire treaty was established.

Israel offers 10 years of peace, opening the borders, getting countries to rebuild Gaza, but to Hamas, they can't have this, because the Palestinian people might realize that they like having peace, food and water, some fun and more.  They can't control people like that, only by fear.

Obviously, their response was to attack Israel again and kill people.

Ron, ...Hamas wanting peace, is like a police officer wanting a crime-free society.
It's against their interests, ...and they would lose their raison d'être.

[IFBBwannaB]

Ron, ...Hamas wanting peace, is like a police officer wanting a crime-free society.
It's against their interests, ...and they would lose their raison d'être.

Wow what a great argument...so if it's against their intrest let's give them all they want.

Maybe it's against your intrest that your pills will work hence people will buy more of them hoping that more will work better than less.

[Fury]

If this cease fire were to go into effect and people started to rebuild Gaza, Hamas would have no legs to stand on and ultimately its power would wane among the populace. They're no different from any other power mongering group, they only mask their aims behind the sham that is Islam.

[Dos Equis]

Rolling eyes, the final form of a rebuttal from a moron.

Hey I resent that!   

[tonymctones]

I think that's the deal breaker there. Most people will reject most any proposal if it doesn't address their desires.

Hamas doesn't care about open border crossings, ...they smuggle what they need in through tunnels all over Gaza.

They want Israel out of Gaza, ...and until that solution is offered to them, I doubt they'll be accepting very many offers.

actually at the beginning of the interaction this seemed to be their main concern that is the borders being opened now that they which they didnt think would be offered now that it is they have to come up with something else to excuses their actions.

[JOHN MATRIX]

we should begin a massive airlifting campaign in which a hundred million tons of weed, guitars, dave matthews cds, and calendars with pictures of kittens and puppies are dropped into the entire affected region.

give it a week and they will all be sitting down laughing, strumming, and having deep emotional conversations with each other.

[24KT]

actually at the beginning of the interaction this seemed to be their main concern that is the borders being opened now that they which they didnt think would be offered now that it is they have to come up with something else to excuses their actions.

You're confusing the "citizens" of Gaza with Hamas.
It is the citizens that need the borders open. Hamas has tunnels for the flow of it's goods.

[tonymctones]

You're confusing the "citizens" of Gaza with Hamas.
It is the citizens that need the borders open. Hamas has tunnels for the flow of it's goods.

no your not listening, They HAMAS made it quite clear if you watched any coverage of it that they wanted the borders open as any part of cease fire agreement. I know they have tunnels the reason they touted that is b/c they didnt believe israel would concede.

[Fury]

You're confusing the "citizens" of Gaza with Hamas.
It is the citizens that need the borders open. Hamas has tunnels for the flow of it's goods.

Hamas went on the air and said that's what they wanted multiple times. Maybe you should start following news topics before commenting on them. A 160 IQ and a career peddling fraudulent gas caps will only get you so far.

[JOHN MATRIX]

IM TELLING YOU, lets drop a million tons of weed in the region then set it alight with incendiary bombs, the entire place will be hotboxed and peace will be the order of the day.

[Fury]

IM TELLING YOU, lets drop a million tons of weed in the region then set it alight with incendiary bombs, the entire place will be hotboxed and peace will be the order of the day.

If by weed you mean neutron bombs, then yes, I think we should we blanket the entire middle east with "weed".

[MuscleMcMannus]

If by weed you mean neutron bombs, then yes, I think we should we blanket the entire middle east with "weed".

Shut the fuck up.  You're a moron.  You've probably never even been in any of these countries you want to blanket with nuclear weapons.  I mean shit....with statements like that nothing you say no matter how intelligent it is can be taken seriously.  There are millions of innocent people, just like in America, who are powerless to stop the leaders in their government. 

[Fury]

Shut the fuck up.  You're a moron.  You've probably never even been in any of these countries you want to blanket with nuclear weapons.  I mean shit....with statements like that nothing you say no matter how intelligent it is can be taken seriously.  There are millions of innocent people, just like in America, who are powerless to stop the leaders in their government. 

Waah, waah, waah. They don't contribute anything to this planet, are most likely on the lower end of the IQ spectrum and spend the majority of their days worshiping some fictional character (Jews and Muslims alike, only Muslims pray 5x a day). Sometimes one needs to realize a bad investment and write it off. Think about how bad that area is going to be once we get off oil. They will have NOTHING. You think the violence is bad now? Hahaha!