Author Topic: Dems Stimulus (Read 2081 times)

The Coach · « **on:** January 27, 2009, 01:03:07 PM »

Just heard will top $1.1 Trillion.............but hey, not to worry, he won't raise taxes, hahahahahaha!

MONSTER_TRICEPS · « **Reply #1 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:04:46 PM »

Dude, calm the fuck down.

JOHN MATRIX · « **Reply #2 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:05:40 PM »

its all just monopoly money anyway, coach.

dr.chimps · « **Reply #3 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:06:22 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on January 27, 2009, 01:03:07 PM

Just heard will top $1.1 Trillion.............but hey, not to worry, he won't raise taxes, hahahahahaha!

Never met anyone who reveled in his ignorance more than you, Coach. Like a little girl raising her dress over her head.

YoungBlood · « **Reply #4 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:07:03 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on January 27, 2009, 01:03:07 PM

Just heard will top $1.1 Trillion.............but hey, not to worry, he won't raise taxes, hahahahahaha!

Anything that he does, cannot be any worse than what that fucktard we called President for the last 8yrs has already done.

polychronopolous · « **Reply #5 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:07:16 PM »

Yet another thread will "Coach" will come in, make a politically polarizing comment, and then scurry out like the little rodent he is without justifying his statement.

D_1000 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:09:43 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on January 27, 2009, 01:03:07 PM

Just heard will top $1.1 Trillion.............but hey, not to worry, he won't raise taxes, hahahahahaha!

Life's not always just about you, you, you. Learn to live with it.

The Coach · « **Reply #7 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:11:14 PM »

Then explain this too me Chimps.

stormshadow · « **Reply #8 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:19:14 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on January 27, 2009, 01:11:14 PM

Then explain this too me Chimps.

Compared to 8.5 Trillion in bailouts under Bush?

At least this money will do something besides line the pockets of bank executives...

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #9 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:22:59 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on January 27, 2009, 01:11:14 PM

Then explain this too me Chimps.

Explain why this thread is :

1 - Not in the political forum
2 - Has a cell phone icon. Did Obama just call you and inform you of this?
3 - Why anyone gives a shit about your opinion.

The Coach · « **Reply #10 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:24:14 PM »

8.5 trillion? WTF are you talking about?

The Coach · « **Reply #11 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:25:17 PM »

BTW, I didn't agree with the bailouts.

kwri298 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:38:12 PM »

Coach,

I know you are pro republican but we are going to be screwed under Dems or Reps. The problem is neither one can stop spending money. Dems want to spend money on tons of social programs and bailouts. Reps want to spend money on war, antiterrorism, and they also support the bailouts. Dems want regulatation and Reps don't, I personally don't believe in regulatation BUT I also believe in letting these banks and companies fail when they can't make it. Both Dems and Reps talk about increasing security but no one want to talk about strict immigration reform.

Here's what I personally believe but neither party will ever come around to this...
1. Free enterprise (including the schools) - No bailouts, if a company makes bad business decisions if fails
2. Flat tax or national sales tax
3. Do away with most government social programs (welfare, EIC, etc.)
4. Strong military with strong immigration control
5. Stop being the police of the world and concentrate on our own country.
6. I think that anything should be legal as long as it does not infringe on someone else’s rights.

Rearden Metal · « **Reply #13 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:46:00 PM »

Wrong forum dicknozzle.

dr.chimps · « **Reply #14 on:** January 27, 2009, 02:16:18 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on January 27, 2009, 01:11:14 PM

Then explain this too me Chimps.

Off the top of my head, this $ wouldn't be needed if you hadn't been fighting a bogus, failed war for the past 8 years. Total costs of such an endeavour are gonna top out at over 3 billion. Chump change for the SoCal golf set, tho.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #15 on:** January 27, 2009, 03:21:12 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on January 27, 2009, 01:03:07 PM

Just heard will top $1.1 Trillion.............but hey, not to worry, he won't raise taxes, hahahahahaha!

Actually, part of the stimulus is LOWERING the taxes.

Did you even bother to check the stimulus deal bro?

IMO, I think the infrastructure surge will be the most effective. It will also give USA a much needed make-over as several parts have been allowed to disintegrate into 3rd world like state in some areas.
It will be great. USA will be the land of the future just like in the 50's.

perhaps this is the year when USA bounced back. In 10 years we may look back on this year as the start of a throw back to the haydays of USA.

JOHN MATRIX · « **Reply #16 on:** January 27, 2009, 04:31:25 PM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on January 27, 2009, 03:21:12 PM

Actually, part of the stimulus is LOWERING the taxes.

Did you even bother to check the stimulus deal bro?

IMO, I think the infrastructure surge will be the most effective. It will also give USA a much needed make-over as several parts have been allowed to disintegrate into 3rd world like state in some areas.
It will be great. USA will be the land of the future just like in the 50's.

perhaps this is the year when USA bounced back. In 10 years we may look back on this year as the start of a throw back to the haydays of USA.

exactly. you have no idea just how detrimental the Bush/neocon administration has been for this country and the world. now we have a chance to rebuild everything. i can only imagine how different thing would have been had Gore got a handful more votes in florida

The Coach · « **Reply #17 on:** January 27, 2009, 06:34:36 PM »

Quote from: dr.chimps on January 27, 2009, 02:16:18 PM

Off the top of my head, this $ wouldn't be needed if you hadn't been fighting a bogus, failed war for the past 8 years. Total costs of such an endeavour are gonna top out at over 3 billion. Chump change for the SoCal golf set, tho.

WTF are you talking about, you can't possibly be serious?

Hedgehog · « **Reply #18 on:** January 27, 2009, 11:57:26 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on January 27, 2009, 06:34:36 PM

WTF are you talking about, you can't possibly be serious?

Don't tell me you thought fighting in Iraq was free or that it came at a cheap price?
The war in Iraq is extremely expensive.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #19 on:** January 28, 2009, 05:33:59 AM »

Quote from: The Coach on January 27, 2009, 01:03:07 PM

Just heard will top $1.1 Trillion.............but hey, not to worry, he won't raise taxes, hahahahahaha!

Its all welfare!!!!!!!!!!!!

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #20 on:** January 28, 2009, 05:35:06 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on January 27, 2009, 11:57:26 PM

Don't tell me you thought fighting in Iraq was free or that it came at a cheap price?
The war in Iraq is extremely expensive.

Its cheaper than the democrat welfare plan. Deal with it. ZERO and Pelosi are spending more on welfare in this bill alone than the cost of Iraq.

Democrats are freaking joke.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #21 on:** January 28, 2009, 05:37:16 AM »

Quote from: kwri298 on January 27, 2009, 01:38:12 PM

Coach,

I know you are pro republican but we are going to be screwed under Dems or Reps. The problem is neither one can stop spending money. Dems want to spend money on tons of social programs and bailouts. Reps want to spend money on war, antiterrorism, and they also support the bailouts. Dems want regulatation and Reps don't, I personally don't believe in regulatation BUT I also believe in letting these banks and companies fail when they can't make it. Both Dems and Reps talk about increasing security but no one want to talk about strict immigration reform.

Here's what I personally believe but neither party will ever come around to this...
1. Free enterprise (including the schools) - No bailouts, if a company makes bad business decisions if fails
2. Flat tax or national sales tax
3. Do away with most government social programs (welfare, EIC, etc.)
4. Strong military with strong immigration control
5. Stop being the police of the world and concentrate on our own country.
6. I think that anything should be legal as long as it does not infringe on someone else’s rights.

Your steps are common sense. Obama and Pelosi are 1000000% against any common sense at all with this trillion dollar welfare plan.

Good job you clowns in voting for this jerk. ZERO is going to make Bush look like Scrooge.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #22 on:** January 28, 2009, 06:32:10 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on January 28, 2009, 05:35:06 AM

Its cheaper than the democrat welfare plan. Deal with it. ZERO and Pelosi are spending more on welfare in this bill alone than the cost of Iraq.

Democrats are freaking joke.

I don't know if you're correct on that one.

There have been estimates that the total cost of the war could land over two TRILLION dollars.

Check this link and see what you think.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846.html

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #23 on:** January 28, 2009, 06:37:38 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on January 28, 2009, 06:32:10 AM

I don't know if you're correct on that one.

There have been estimates that the total cost of the war could land over two TRILLION dollars.

Check this link and see what you think.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846.html

I will use the CBO. Go check out their site. This is TRILLION DOLLAR WELFARE PLAN!

all the liberal screaming and stamping their feet about the cost of Iraq is now right out the window with this welfare program!.

Congratulations you suckers who voted for this clown.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 28, 2009, 08:06:39 AM »

Exactly. You guys must realize this package is far more expensive than the whole Iraq war....and we're not even sure what effect it will have. This will significantly increase our already immense debt and increase the tax payment each year. Plus...we have to pay it back sometime. So, our taxes will go up after the economy stabilizes, which should piss us all off...or our kids will be paying for this plan.

This stimulus should focus on tax cuts and possibly infrastructure spending only. Nothing else. We have to cut spending and reduce our trade deficits or else we will never reverse our direction.

The war was a huge deal (and mistake IMO) but the economy was crumbling without the war...at least the banks. Some republicans made congress aware of the financial issues in 2006, but it was ignored. Don't fall into the hip trap of blaming everything on Bush (he did not help the situation with all his spending) but it is much more complicated and more broad. Bush did not do anything to cause the banks, housing market and lending institutions to fail. Thats our main problem and what started everything.