Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH

[QuakerOats]

It used to be 

wowza.

[Mimi6]

I will take a look over on the other boards to see what I can find. I am just weighing all of my options as well as looking at the pros and cons. This was something that my husband and I both have been looking into. We tend to workout together and bounce different ideas off of each other.

Thanks again

Mimi, Quaker Oats is right, it's totally your choice what you want to do and no one else's business.  But I would suggest attempting to diet down first.

I have no idea about synthetics or DHEA or HGH stuff.  You may get good advice on the Steroid board or even the women's training board possibly.

But consider dieting down w/o it first.  Competitors look so lean whether they use or not because they have dieted.  Those things you are talking about are not going to magically make you lean and muscular as far as I know.  Competitors still work their butts off and are extremely disciplined in their eating.


Nope!

[chaos]

dang it, i got my hopes up lol

It wasn't my hope that was up.

[Hustle Man]

I lost body fat and gained/maintained lean muscle.

Hard work and clean eating.  You don't need that other stuff for the goals you stated.

10 weeks of dieting:

Stella I swear you and my wife look identical (well before she gained baby weight) I don't know if you recall my post about her losing too much weight but that is what she looked like at 115 lbs. hair do and all.

HM

[Butterbean]

Stella I swear you and my wife look identical (well before she gained baby weight) I don't know if you recall my post about her losing too much weight but that is what she looked like at 115 lbs. hair do and all.

HM

Yes, I remember you being concerned about her losing too much weight... 

  hair do and all 

[Migs]

i want a hottie wife 

oh wait that means losing all freedom, sense of hope and having to answer to someone... 

I'm good

[Lord Humungous]

Stella you look like you need to eat a Stinkwich!   

[Butterbean]

i want a hottie wife 

oh wait that means losing all freedom, sense of hope and having to answer to someone... 

I'm good

Stella you look like you need to eat a Stinkwich!  

[CQ]

Mimi - the kicker is you say you want to maintain your feminine features.If you use steroids, you won't. You may think you do as the changes are so tiny and gradual that you will not see them, but they are there and others will see it. Notice, one never meets a masculine looking women who realizes it - ever. I have never known one to admit it - as they just don't see it themselves.

Thats really a choice you make - nothing I advise, but not my body.

Unless you want to be a national level bodybuilder, you can achieve all you want without gear. The diet STella posted is great and main keys are consistency and dedication. You said you have 4 kids, so for you I am sure time is tight - so if you keep diet really strict and maximise your training time with intensity that is key

[ripitupbaby]

How'd I miss this one? 

I agree, you should really just focus on your diet and training.  There's really no need to go much further than that.  There are A FEW OTC supplements that may help you out, feel free to PM me if you have any questions about that.

Stella............  .............  hottie!!   

[Mimi6]

I guess I understand; I am just tired!

There is a ton of things going on in my life right now and I realized that I have been neglecting myself far too long. I workout just about every night; that is the best time for me to get my workouts in without distractions. I am ready to get rid of the excess body fat, especially my tummy.

I have thought about surgery, but can't afford it and afraid that something would go wrong. I have been doing a ton of research on gear and the many different ways to use it with minimal sides. Maybe I am just frustrated and impatient?

Something has to change for the better; I can't continue like this. The things I want I can't afford or I don't have time. I need help

Thanks,
Mimi6

[QuakerOats]

I guess I understand; I am just tired!

There is a ton of things going on in my life right now and I realized that I have been neglecting myself far too long. I workout just about every night; that is the best time for me to get my workouts in without distractions. I am ready to get rid of the excess body fat, especially my tummy.

I have thought about surgery, but can't afford it and afraid that something would go wrong. I have been doing a ton of research on gear and the many different ways to use it with minimal sides. Maybe I am just frustrated and impatient?

Something has to change for the better; I can't continue like this. The things I want I can't afford or I don't have time. I need help

Thanks,
Mimi6

you're healthy, have a roof over your head, clothes on your back, your child is healthy, you have money coming in, think about people with sick children or REAL problems other than being a little overweight

[Butterbean]

Mimi, we would all like a quick fix for our bodies and for them to get to where we want them to be right away!

But the fact is, it took some time to gain the weight, it will take time to lose it.

You must be disciplined and focused.  Each morning you wake up after a day of eating clean can be seen as a type of victory!


Consider eating clean(er) for 7 weeks.  If you do, I can just about guarantee your spirits will be lifted and you'll have hope and motivation to continue!

[Migs]

i had a dream that i macguyvered a vacuum cleaner into a lipo machine and wook up looking ripped.   

[Butterbean]

i had a dream that i macguyvered a vacuum cleaner into a lipo machine and wook up looking ripped.   

hahaha!

I had a massage once where the guy was doing my legs and talking about cellulite the whole time   

[Migs]

hahaha!

I had a massage once where the guy was doing my legs and talking about cellulite the whole time   

that bastard!  There is nothing wrong with your legs, from what i could tell from using my high powered binoculars from across the street. 

[Butterbean]

 

[Migs]

rofl, exactly.  what a jerk.   

[Mimi6]

you're healthy, have a roof over your head, clothes on your back, your child is healthy, you have money coming in, think about people with sick children or REAL problems other than being a little overweight

QO, I am not just concerned about my weight. This may be too personal, but I found out a few months ago that my husband had been cheating on me off and on for 5 years (with multiple women). We have been married for almost 14-years and we have 4 children. I have never cheated on my husband although I have had many opportunities.

I guess right now I am hurt, angry and scared. I have to do this for me; I have to find ME again. I have chosen to stay and I can only hope that he won't fuck up again. I need something to focus on besides this bullshit; I know this is not what everyone wants to hear about because it is completly off of the subject. But, it is indirectly related to my goals.

I am not fat or overwieght according to my doctor; I do have a pudgy belly. I wear a size 6 in womens and a size 8 in juniors; now I know that for most of the women on this forum I would be considered obese. I don't see myself that way, but realistically I am not toned.

Maybe this will shed a little more light on my situation; I have ton more I could add to the list of my life's drama. But, I do understand what QuakerO is trying to say; thing's could be mush worse. What doesn't kill you only makes you strong!!!

[Butterbean]

QO, I am not just concerned about my weight. This may be too personal, but I found out a few months ago that my husband had been cheating on me off and on for 5 years (with multiple women). .

Damn!  I hope everything can work out for you guys.

Two books that I would recommend for you both to read are:

"The 5 Love Languages" by Gary Chapman
"His Needs, Her Needs" by Somebody? Harley

Also, "Love Must be Tough" by Dobson is a good one.

The first 2 are primarily about how to make each other happy and the last one tells you how not to put up w/crap.


"The 5 Love Languages" was instrumental in saving my marriage imo.  We weren't in your situation, but we needed to work on things to make them better.  It is a great book.

I am not fat or overwieght according to my doctor; I do have a pudgy belly. I wear a size 6 in womens and a size 8 in juniors; now I know that for most of the women on this forum I would be considered obese. I don't see myself that way, but realistically I am not toned.

No, you are not considered obese here.

Most competitors do not walk around ripped year round.

I weigh about 13 pounds more than I weighed in that pic I posted.  I'd like to lose about 5 or 6 pounds of fat right now though.

By writing things down I'm avoiding the dreaded "dessert after lunch" and too much  wine at night!

[QuakerOats]

QO, I am not just concerned about my weight. This may be too personal, but I found out a few months ago that my husband had been cheating on me off and on for 5 years (with multiple women). We have been married for almost 14-years and we have 4 children. I have never cheated on my husband although I have had many opportunities.

I guess right now I am hurt, angry and scared. I have to do this for me; I have to find ME again. I have chosen to stay and I can only hope that he won't fuck up again. I need something to focus on besides this bullshit; I know this is not what everyone wants to hear about because it is completly off of the subject. But, it is indirectly related to my goals.

I am not fat or overwieght according to my doctor; I do have a pudgy belly. I wear a size 6 in womens and a size 8 in juniors; now I know that for most of the women on this forum I would be considered obese. I don't see myself that way, but realistically I am not toned.

Maybe this will shed a little more light on my situation; I have ton more I could add to the list of my life's drama. But, I do understand what QuakerO is trying to say; thing's could be mush worse. What doesn't kill you only makes you strong!!!

the reason he cheated isn't because you're "overweight" or not pretty it's because he wanted something different, plain and simple, that's what guys do, youcan be the hottest girl in the world but after a few years a guy gets tired of the same old thing.

[drkaje]

you're healthy, have a roof over your head, clothes on your back, your child is healthy, you have money coming in, think about people with sick children or REAL problems other than being a little overweight

Are you OK, Dave?

That bordered on nice.

the reason he cheated isn't because you're "overweight" or not pretty it's because he wanted something different, plain and simple, that's what guys do, youcan be the hottest girl in the world but after a few years a guy gets tired of the same old thing.

I was worried for a minute, LOL!

Cheaters cheat because they have no respect.

[Mimi6]

Cheaters cheat because they have no respect.

Respect for who; themselves or the other person?

I needed to get a few things off of my chest about this situation; so I created a different post dedicated to my situation. I am trying to deal with this the best way I know how. If you choose to read what I posted; be my quest and feel free to let me know your thoughts. I actually prefer brutal honesty, even when it hurts.

[w8m8]

Okay, I will look through the book and begin putting a eating plan into place.

But, just out of curiosity and for the hell of it; if I still wanted to use synthetics, what would be recommended for a female?

I have been reading that HGH is not as bad as steroids, and I am finding out additional information about DHEA. Can anyone help me with these inquiries?

I like to know what all of my options are, so I can make the best choice for me. I am taking everything that everyone is telling me into account. All advice and suggestions are helpful and appreciated.

Thanks,
Mimi6

I think you have gotten super advices here ... you HAVE to WANT to change to make any significant goal a reality .. IMHO right now you're grasping at too many options and won't commit to one .. eating healthy and clean

What you put in your body is going to show up in some way .. if it's not good for you then you won't look good .. if it's too much .. you'll be too big ... if you're dealing with outside stressors it will only inhibit any actual result you seek

I don't think dancing is necessary if you're doing cardio and weights , that time you spend dancing could be used for chopping vegetables , making weekly meal menus etc.

If you can't get the family to eat clean and more healthy with you what options will they have when you get the junk outta the house ?


As far as your problem areas are concerned ..?.. look at newmom's thread

she's done extraordinarily well with her training .. she's changed her life and it shows .. no magic potion was sought for .. just hard work and good healthy living


good luck with whatever you choose , but taking the stuff you and your husband are looking at won't change "who" you are and in the long run may very well become one of your biggest mistakes

[Butterbean]

Mimi I am posting this here in hopes that you'll see it

I am trying to send you a PM in response to your last one but it won't go through.  I wonder if you inadvertantly "blocked" people from sending you PMs? 

Please PM me if you get me unblocked!