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Re: GLOBAL RIOTS what you wont see on American News
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2009, 02:24:07 PM »
I apologize for pointing out another of your lies once again... but I have to say something dude.

Actually, the latest figures for Venezuela for 2008 were 6.1% unemployment rate (source: Instituto Nacional de Estadística).

We all know what happened to the US'.

Fact, not opinion.

Again, going into August, their unemployment rate was greater than ours. I apologize for not keeping up to date on every single fact regarding Venezuela. Nevermind the point that the murder numbers and inflation statistics are accurate. Nuthuggers, lol.

Anyway, it's super bowl eating time.

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« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2009, 02:25:12 PM »
Holy shit, the Keynes comment was just a reference to your superior knowledge of everything economics. Way to go off the deep end.

You were implying that socialism/communism is better than capitalism. Now you're trying to say you weren't.

No I'm not you moron.  I'm SAYING HOW MONEY IS CREATED matters MORE THAN economic ideology.  You can have the most free market in the world......if bankers control how money is created and the people are under the auspices of private banks it really won't matter much and you'll have constant economic bubbles ballooning and bursting and exponential debt like we do in the US.  WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THE FOUNDING FATHERS AKA JEFFERSON AND JACKSON WERE SO DISTRUSTFUL AND HATEFUL TOWARDS BANKERS AND BANKS!

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Re: GLOBAL RIOTS what you wont see on American News
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2009, 02:26:28 PM »
Again, going into August, their unemployment rate was greater than ours. I apologize for not keeping up to date on every single fact regarding Venezuela. Nevermind the point that the murder numbers and inflation statistics are accurate. Nuthuggers, lol.

Anyway, it's super bowl eating time.

haha the shit gets deep and he bows out.  What a pussy.  Go watch your football and eat your chips tubby.  Keep drinking the kool aid! 

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« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2009, 02:26:35 PM »
Interesting. Chavez is incredibly democratic. I mean, every democratic country passes legislation allowing for their leader to be elected to a life term. Oh wait, it failed in Venezuela because the people don't want to annoint a dictator. The problem is that despite all the media manipulation and theatrics by Chavez, their country is still suffering from massive problems. Here's to hoping he continues to kill and imprison the opposition, as it's the only way he'll likely stay in power.

Chavez kills the opposition???!!!!  ??? ??? ???

Where do you get that from? Another ass-grabber?

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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2009, 02:35:26 PM »
Chavez kills the opposition???!!!!  ??? ??? ???

Where do you get that from? Another ass-grabber?

Back to my point though Slapper.  Chavez is nationalizing the banks but he's still at the mercy of outside loans i.e. the Inter American development bank based in Washington DC which is slated to "lend" the new nationalized bank $8 billion dollars.  China can print its own money so they are only at the mercy of themselves.  Guess who has the highest credit rating in Latin America?  CHILE! (banking system owned by the west and IMF) No surprise there eh?

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Re: GLOBAL RIOTS what you wont see on American News
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2009, 02:36:10 PM »
Again, going into August, their unemployment rate was greater than ours. I apologize for not keeping up to date on every single fact regarding Venezuela.

Ok, from whenever to August of last year Venezuela's unemployment rate was higher than ours. From September of 2008 to today it's the total opposite. Great way to make your point that socialism sucks!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Nevermind the point that the murder numbers and inflation statistics are accurate.

I'm not saying otherwise. Venezuela is indeed going through a rough time class-wise. The rich oil oligarchs do not want to let go of the power and they are finding themselves in a situation with Chavez's popularity is on the rise and they have little to no popular support amongst the majority of Venezuelans. They are now turning to their only viable option (backed by the USA of course): Violence.

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Re: GLOBAL RIOTS what you wont see on American News
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2009, 02:42:36 PM »
Back to my point though Slapper.  Chavez is nationalizing the banks but he's still at the mercy of outside loans i.e. the Inter American development bank based in Washington DC which is slated to "lend" the new nationalized bank $8 billion dollars.  China can print its own money so they are only at the mercy of themselves.  Guess who has the highest credit rating in Latin America?  CHILE! (banking system owned by the west and IMF) No surprise there eh?

Chavez does not give a single shit about the IMF. He is sitting on the largest oil reserve in the world and that gives him all the prick-waving rights he wants. Sure the IMF can pull the plug, but then all Chavez have to do is shut off the spiggots... and sit back and watch the US economy collapse to stone-age times.

People in the IMF are smart enought not to do that. I also think he's got plenty of cash to pay off his loans though.

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« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2009, 03:16:26 PM »
Chavez does not give a single shit about the IMF. He is sitting on the largest oil reserve in the world and that gives him all the prick-waving rights he wants. Sure the IMF can pull the plug, but then all Chavez have to do is shut off the spiggots... and sit back and watch the US economy collapse to stone-age times.

People in the IMF are smart enought not to do that. I also think he's got plenty of cash to pay off his loans though.

He can delete posts whenver he wants too.  ;)

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« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2009, 04:29:13 PM »
Chavez does not give a single shit about the IMF. He is sitting on the largest oil reserve in the world and that gives him all the prick-waving rights he wants. Sure the IMF can pull the plug, but then all Chavez have to do is shut off the spiggots... and sit back and watch the US economy collapse to stone-age times.

People in the IMF are smart enought not to do that. I also think he's got plenty of cash to pay off his loans though.
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Like I said Chavez talks tough but he's still a bitch to the international banking cartel.  That's my point.  Whether it's IMF or Inter America or other banks.  China is a different beast.  They own their currency, the ability to print it, lend it to Chinese people interest free.  The Chinese are smart fuckers and they will be the next superpower unless America gets their shit together and gets rid of the Federal Reserve. 

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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2009, 04:31:23 PM »
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Like I said Chavez talks tough but he's still a bitch to the international banking cartel.  That's my point.  Whether it's IMF or Inter America or other banks.  China is a different beast.  They own their currency, the ability to print it, lend it to Chinese people interest free.  The Chinese are smart fuckers and they will be the next superpower unless America gets their shit together and gets rid of the Federal Reserve. 

That is true, the Chinese will rule the world for many years to come. Provided the Indians do not develop an attitude.

Cheers.

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« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2009, 04:37:07 PM »
That is true, the Chinese will rule the world for many years to come. Provided the Indians do not develop an attitude.

Cheers.

India is overreliant on IMF and international banking loans as well.  They are basically puppets for the US and Bank of England.  Always have been and always will be.  Same as the US. 

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« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2009, 05:10:51 PM »
Nothing to see here folks. Banks are stabilized. Credit markets are unfreezing. Unemployment is only 7%. BULLSHIT. WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

People in Russia and China are risking their lives in protest while the WEST IS TOO BUSY SLEEPING OR SUCKING OBAMAS COCK!


No offence bro, but aren't your lips pretty tight around Ron Paul's rod?

One of the bigger de-regulating prophets of our current era?
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« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2009, 05:40:46 PM »

No offence bro, but aren't your lips pretty tight around Ron Paul's rod?

One of the bigger de-regulating prophets of our current era?

Your right, he's wrong. Feel better?

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« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2009, 06:07:13 PM »

No offence bro, but aren't your lips pretty tight around Ron Paul's rod?

One of the bigger de-regulating prophets of our current era?

WRONG I'm not a gold bug and sure as hell don't believe in bringing back the gold standard as solution to all our monetary problems.  Ron Paul wants to bring back the gold standard.  Fine but he still doesn't address the most important issue.  Who controls the creation of money?  If we bring back the gold standard another private entity i.e. banks will control all the gold.  The power of issuing money needs to be given back to the American people i.e. as the founding fathers would have wanted.  Our fiat system of money creation would work fine if we did like the Chinese did.  Issue our own money to our people, buy back our bonds etc.  Instead of allowing a private banking cartel buy bonds for their right to create money out of thin air.  If you're interested I suggest you read the book Web of Debt by Ellen Brown.  The Lost Science of Money by Stephen Zarlenga.  Go to amazon and read the reviews of Ellen's book.  It's the best book on the creation of money right now. 

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« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2009, 06:19:48 PM »
WRONG I'm not a gold bug and sure as hell don't believe in bringing back the gold standard as solution to all our monetary problems.  Ron Paul wants to bring back the gold standard.  Fine but he still doesn't address the most important issue.  Who controls the creation of money?  If we bring back the gold standard another private entity i.e. banks will control all the gold.  The power of issuing money needs to be given back to the American people i.e. as the founding fathers would have wanted.  Our fiat system of money creation would work fine if we did like the Chinese did.  Issue our own money to our people, buy back our bonds etc.  Instead of allowing a private banking cartel buy bonds for their right to create money out of thin air.  If you're interested I suggest you read the book Web of Debt by Ellen Brown.  The Lost Science of Money by Stephen Zarlenga.  Go to amazon and read the reviews of Ellen's book.  It's the best book on the creation of money right now. 


Never claimed you were a Ron Paul fan.

My post was directed to Bindare Dundat.

He's cool though.
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Re: GLOBAL RIOTS what you wont see on American News
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2009, 06:24:21 PM »

Never claimed you were a Ron Paul fan.

My post was directed to Bindare Dundat.

He's cool though.

Yeah my bad I realized that after I typed it out.  lol.  Ron Paul is a good man and a voice America is in dire need of.  Is everything he says gospel or even economically sound?  No.  But no politician is perfect.  It's not economiclly viable in an economy of trillions upon trillions of dollars to bring back the gold standard.  But that's no reason why a hybrid gold/fiat system couldn't work either. 

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Re: GLOBAL RIOTS what you wont see on American News
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2009, 06:48:45 PM »
We saw them on Canadian news.  :)
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Re: GLOBAL RIOTS what you wont see on American News
« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2009, 06:53:17 PM »
Let's Legalize Competing Currencies

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul434.html

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Re: GLOBAL RIOTS what you wont see on American News
« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2009, 07:01:40 PM »
Yeah my bad I realized that after I typed it out.  lol.  Ron Paul is a good man and a voice America is in dire need of.  Is everything he says gospel or even economically sound?  No.  But no politician is perfect.  It's not economiclly viable in an economy of trillions upon trillions of dollars to bring back the gold standard.  But that's no reason why a hybrid gold/fiat system couldn't work either. 

What would you say about the topic of regulation/deregualtion? Thanks.

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Re: GLOBAL RIOTS what you wont see on American News
« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2009, 07:30:13 PM »
Gold Standard 1/30/09 Fox Business


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Re: GLOBAL RIOTS what you wont see on American News
« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2009, 07:36:11 PM »
hahaha, oh brother.....comedic gold...turds...hahaha

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« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2009, 09:00:55 PM »
hahaha, oh brother.....comedic gold...turds...hahaha

what the hell does that even mean? What are you referring to?

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« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2009, 11:32:39 PM »
What would you say about the topic of regulation/deregualtion? Thanks.

Well the first thing I would say is the US government is way too fucking big and invasive nowadays.  Everywhere we turn we have bureaucracy shoved up our asses be it citizens, businesses etc.  With that being said I believe more power should be regulated to the states.  Much more.  Society, especially business needs a certain amount of regulation.  But it should be balanced and focused.  Two things government knows nothing of.  This economic crisis didn't happen because there wasn't enough regulation.  It failed because the regulation already existing wasn't enforced.  We don't need more laws.  We need to enforce the ones we already have. 

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« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2009, 06:05:54 AM »
Well the first thing I would say is the US government is way too fucking big and invasive nowadays.  Everywhere we turn we have bureaucracy shoved up our asses be it citizens, businesses etc.  With that being said I believe more power should be regulated to the states.  Much more.  Society, especially business needs a certain amount of regulation.  But it should be balanced and focused.  Two things government knows nothing of.  This economic crisis didn't happen because there wasn't enough regulation.  It failed because the regulation already existing wasn't enforced.  We don't need more laws.  We need to enforce the ones we already have. 

100000000000%  correct.  We have too many laws and too few enforcment.  Its better to have fewer laws and better enforcement.

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Re: GLOBAL RIOTS what you wont see on American News
« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2009, 06:32:22 AM »
 The current credit crisis is hardly an example of the failure of capitalism. History shows that it was during the Clinton administration that an agenda of increased home ownership was heavily promoted. The federal government, under Clinton, began pressuring the Mortgage industry including Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to drastically lower their lending standards. The idea of extending credit to people that have poor income and terrible credit is closer to a socialist agenda than true Capitalism. The same thing happens in education. We have a large portion of our population now that is utterly hopeless when it comes to learning, so the the schools have lowered their standards to accomodate these people. The bottom line is by allowing credit extended to unworthy individuals in the name of "fairness and equality", we are in the current situation we see now.