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CHANGE FOR THE WORSE
By CHARLES HURT - INSIDE WASHINGTON


January 30, 2009 --
WASHINGTON - Buried deep inside the massive spending orgy that Democrats jammed through the House this week lie five words that could drastically undo two decades of welfare reforms.

The very heart of the widely applauded Welfare Reform Act of 1996 is a cap on the amount of federal cash that can be sent to states each year for welfare payments.

But, thanks to the simple phrase slipped into the legislation, the new "stimulus" bill abolishes the limits on the amount of federal money for the so-called Emergency Fund, which ships welfare cash to states.

"Out of any money in the Treasury of the United States not otherwise appropriated, there are appropriated such sums as are necessary for payment to the Emergency Fund," Democrats wrote in Section 2101 on Page 354 of the $819 billion bill. In other words, the only limit on welfare payments would be the Treasury itself.

"This re-establishes the welfare state and creates dependency all over the place," said one startled budget analyst after reading the line.

In addition to reopening the floodgates of dependency on federal welfare programs, the change once again deepens the dependency of state governments on the federal government.

President Obama won on promises of changing the way Washington works.

Gripped by perhaps the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, Americans of every political stripe opted for "change."

Sick of reckless government, sleazy lobbyists, wild spending and deep borrowing that has scuttled America's great economic engine, voters embraced Obama's promise to be "post-partisan" and usher into the government a new era of responsibility and common sense.

But his presidency isn't two weeks old, and already warning flags have gone up.

Obama is wallpapering his administration with lobbyists, installed a tax cheat to run the Treasury Department and is pushing Congress to pass a massive, wildly unaffordable "stimulus" bill loaded with pork and reckless spending that plunges Americans even deeper into debt.

Even worse, the bill every day looks more like 15 years of pent-up big-government liberalism than an economic "stimulus" plan.

Ever since his election, many Americans have wondered which Barack Obama would show up at the White House: the most liberal member of the Senate or the post-partisan bearer of change we could all believe in.

One thing is clear: His "stimulus" bill is not change we can believe in. It's a return to big-government welfare that we will choke on.

churt@nypost.com
 
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You idiots who voted for Obama should be very proud of yourselves!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2009, 08:23:20 AM »
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But money grows on trees in fantasy land. Doesn't that help?

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2009, 08:24:13 AM »
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But money grows on trees in fantasy land. Doesn't that help?

Im serious, Obama is going to be Jimmy Carter 2 very quickly.

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2009, 08:27:30 AM »
I'm just hoping this whole thing blows up much sooner than later, so we can just get the pain over with and start anew. But with the way things are going, the idiot public will just vote in some bigger  turd.  :-\

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2009, 08:31:23 AM »
I'm just hoping this whole thing blows up much sooner than later, so we can just get the pain over with and start anew. But with the way things are going, the idiot public will just vote in some bigger  turd.  :-\

What a disgrace Obama is.  He will rubber stamp anything Pelosi does.

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2009, 08:35:29 AM »
Its politically difficult for Obama to check Pelosi...I still think he should, but in reality its tough.  Thats why 2010 is so important.  We need more balance in the congress...or more moderates and conservatives.
This bill is horrible.  There is pressure to rush this through but we must not rush to pass a turd, as previously posted.

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2009, 08:39:53 AM »
Its politically difficult for Obama to check Pelosi...I still think he should, but in reality its tough.  Thats why 2010 is so important.  We need more balance in the congress...or more moderates and conservatives.
This bill is horrible.  There is pressure to rush this through but we must not rush to pass a turd, as previously posted.

I already called Schumer and and trying to call the other Senator.  Call your Senators!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2009, 08:57:42 AM »
WASHINGTON (AP) - Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said Sunday the massive stimulus bill backed by President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats could go down to defeat if it's not stripped of unnecessary spending and focused more on housing issues and tax cut.

The Senate version of the bill, which topped out at nearly $900 billion, is headed to the floor for debate. The House bill totaled about $819 billion and earned no Republican votes, even though it easily passed the Democratic-controlled House. At some point lawmakers will need to compromise on the competing versions.

McConnell and other Republicans suggested that the bill needed an overhaul because it doesn't pump enough into the private sector through tax cuts and allows Democrats to go on a spending spree unlikely to jolt the economy. The Republican leader also complained that Democrats had not been as bipartisan in writing the bill as Obama had said he wanted.

"I think it may be time ... for the president to kind of get a hold of these Democrats in the Senate and the House, who have rather significant majorities, and shake them a little bit and say, 'Look, let's do this the right way,'" McConnell said. "I can't believe that the president isn't embarrassed about the products that have been produced so far."

For his part, Obama said he is confident Republicans will come around to support the final version of the legislation. He and Vice President Joe Biden will meet with congressional leaders at the White House on Monday afternoon.

The president repeated what his top aides and officials have been telling reporters in recent days, that the final package would be close to its objectives - to save or create 3 to 4 million jobs - and Republicans would be able to back it.

"I am confident that by the time we have the final package on the floor that we are going to see substantial support, and people are going to see this is a serious effort. It has no earmarks. We are going to be trimming out things that are not relevant to putting people back to work right now," Obama said.

However, he declined to predict how many Senate Republicans might switch parties. Biden, a former senior member of the Senate before his election, similarly declined to offer predictions last week in an interview despite his personal phone calls for former colleagues.

"Look, the important thing is getting the thing passed," Obama told NBC's Matt Lauer during a live pre-Super Bowl interview. "And I've done extraordinary outreach, I think, to Republicans because they have some good ideas and I want to make sure those ideas are incorporated."

Obama also that his administration would announce plans to spend the second $350 billion of a bank bailout after Congress deals with the separate economic recovery plan.

Under Obama's plan, strained state budgets would receive a cash infusion, projects for roads and other infrastructure would be funded, and "green jobs" in the energy sector would be created. In its centerpiece tax cut, single workers would gain $500 and couples $1,000, even if they don't earn enough to owe federal income taxes.

Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, the No. 2 Republican in the Senate, said he was seeing an erosion of support for the bill and suggested that lawmakers should consider beginning anew.

"When I say start from scratch, what I mean is that the basic approach of this bill, we believe, is wrong," Kyl said.

Among the major changes Kyl said would be needed to gain Republican support in the Senate was the tax rebate for individuals and couples, which he criticized as going to too many people who didn't pay the tax to start with. He also criticized the bill for seeking to create nearly three dozen government programs and giving states far more money than they need.

Sen. Dick Durbin, D.-Ill., argued that $1 out of every $3 in the bill goes to tax cuts and defended it as aimed at helping working families. While he contended that Democrats were "very open" to Republican proposals, he cited only what he said were calls for more money in job-creating public works projects, typically a Democratic priority.

Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., characterized the proposal as "a spending plan. It's not a stimulus plan. It's temporary, and it's wasteful."

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, said the bill was designed to help people who have been damaged in the economic meltdown as well as stimulate the economy.

"I never saw a tax cut fix a bridge. I never saw a tax cut give us more public transportation. The fact is, we need a mix," Frank said.

Durbin and Kyl appeared on "Fox News Sunday," DeMint and Frank were on ABC's "This Week," and McConnell was on CBS'"Face the Nation."

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Associated Press writer Philip Elliott contributed to this report.


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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 08:58:02 AM »
CHANGE FOR THE WORSE
By CHARLES HURT - INSIDE WASHINGTON


January 30, 2009 --
WASHINGTON - Buried deep inside the massive spending orgy that Democrats jammed through the House this week lie five words that could drastically undo two decades of welfare reforms.

The very heart of the widely applauded Welfare Reform Act of 1996 is a cap on the amount of federal cash that can be sent to states each year for welfare payments.

But, thanks to the simple phrase slipped into the legislation, the new "stimulus" bill abolishes the limits on the amount of federal money for the so-called Emergency Fund, which ships welfare cash to states.

"Out of any money in the Treasury of the United States not otherwise appropriated, there are appropriated such sums as are necessary for payment to the Emergency Fund," Democrats wrote in Section 2101 on Page 354 of the $819 billion bill. In other words, the only limit on welfare payments would be the Treasury itself.

"This re-establishes the welfare state and creates dependency all over the place," said one startled budget analyst after reading the line.

In addition to reopening the floodgates of dependency on federal welfare programs, the change once again deepens the dependency of state governments on the federal government.

President Obama won on promises of changing the way Washington works.

Gripped by perhaps the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, Americans of every political stripe opted for "change."

Sick of reckless government, sleazy lobbyists, wild spending and deep borrowing that has scuttled America's great economic engine, voters embraced Obama's promise to be "post-partisan" and usher into the government a new era of responsibility and common sense.

But his presidency isn't two weeks old, and already warning flags have gone up.

Obama is wallpapering his administration with lobbyists, installed a tax cheat to run the Treasury Department and is pushing Congress to pass a massive, wildly unaffordable "stimulus" bill loaded with pork and reckless spending that plunges Americans even deeper into debt.

Even worse, the bill every day looks more like 15 years of pent-up big-government liberalism than an economic "stimulus" plan.

Ever since his election, many Americans have wondered which Barack Obama would show up at the White House: the most liberal member of the Senate or the post-partisan bearer of change we could all believe in.

One thing is clear: His "stimulus" bill is not change we can believe in. It's a return to big-government welfare that we will choke on.

churt@nypost.com
 
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You idiots who voted for Obama should be very proud of yourselves!!!!!!!!!!!


I can't say that I'm shocked. 

He made it very clear what his intentions were during the campaign with his 'spread the wealth' comment.
A lot of jokes were made about that but it seems to be ringing true.

Not even a month in office and he's already showing his true colors.

The idiots that voted Obama do not care about any of this. 
A black man is president.  That's all that matters.

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2009, 09:02:59 AM »
Did you also see that he wants the military to cut 10% of its budget???????????

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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 09:13:41 AM »
Did you also see that he wants the military to cut 10% of its budget???????????

Should be 50%. 911 proved our military is inept. Especially the Air Force.

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 09:16:52 AM »
Did you also see that he wants the military to cut 10% of its budget???????????


Yes I did!!

I read that over the weekend.

My guess would be that he is trying to get all this junk passed under the blanket terms of "recession" and thinking the public will go along with it. 
He is definately using his honeymoon period to its fullest extent. 

And BTW, I am sooooo sick of Obama and the Dems saying things like "the American people are waiting on us to act" and "the American people are expecting us to fix the recession."

He, nor any politician, does NOT speak for me. 
They gov't can't fix s**t. 




Thanks Mr. President.  I feel much safer.

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2009, 09:18:31 AM »
Should be 50%. 911 proved our military is inept. Especially the Air Force.

Right, the military is inept, but the social security admn, FEMA, HHS, Nedicair/Medicaid, Dept of Ed, they are all competent right??????????

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2009, 09:20:31 AM »
This moron wants to add billions to welfare but cut the military?

What a fool. 


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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2009, 09:21:09 AM »
Should be 50%. 911 proved our military is inept. Especially the Air Force.
wait i thought 9/11 was an inside job ::)

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2009, 09:21:23 AM »
Should be 50%. 911 proved our military is inept. Especially the Air Force.

Our military is not inept. 
It's the greatest in the history of the world.


9/11 proved our intelligence was imperfect, under funded and stretched too thin.  Thanks Clinton.

And Obama is carrying the same torch.
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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2009, 09:22:59 AM »
wait i thought 9/11 was an inside job ::)

HA!

 :D
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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2009, 09:25:21 AM »
HA!

 :D

Jimmy Obama is going to be a one termer.

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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2009, 09:27:53 AM »
Pentagon yearly budget is 515 Billion and couldn't stop commercial jets from striking their own building! :-*  Money well spent. ::)

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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2009, 09:30:11 AM »
Jimmy Obama is going to be a one termer.

I hope you're right brah!

Speaking of the Jimster.  He was in my town last week hocking his new book IN A WAL-MART!!!

Isn't that an awesome place for and ex-prez to be selling his book??!!

Let's hope Obama is headed in the same direction.
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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2009, 09:30:48 AM »
This moron wants to add billions to welfare but cut the military?

What a fool. 



Add to welfare? Never ever said that! I see u make up as u go.

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2009, 09:34:56 AM »
10$ for Pelosi's head in a bag  ;D

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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2009, 09:38:23 AM »
Add to welfare? Never ever said that! I see u make up as u go.

Did you read the article???????

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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2009, 09:43:59 AM »
Pentagon yearly budget is 515 Billion and couldn't stop commercial jets from striking their own building! :-*  Money well spent. ::)

Yeah...that perfect safety since WW2-today from other countries is worth nothing  ::)

Fucking idiot.

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Re: OBAMA/PELOSI TO UNDO 1996 CLINTON/GINGRICH WELFARE REFORM!!!!!!!!
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2009, 09:45:33 AM »
Its more about getting more conservatives in congress and replacing Pelosi.  2010 is incredibly important.  The Bush administration, other than their mistakes, at least kept Pelosi in check.  Obama isn't.  I think Obama would be a lot better with a repbulican controlled congress like the Clinton/Gingrich years.