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« Reply #125 on: January 08, 2018, 09:44:13 PM »

Rest in peace, JonBenet.

Burke Ramsey to Fight CBS

(Law and Crime) Burke Ramsey, who sued CBS and others for running a documentary implicating him in his sister JonBenét’s death, won a meaningful victory in court Friday. Court records obtained by Law&Crime show that Judge David A. Groner denied the network’s motion to dismiss the lawsuit. A review hearing is scheduled for January 18, and a settlement conference for March 8.

The defendants filed their motion to dismiss in March. They claimed, among other things, that the experts in the series never outright accused Ramsey of murder, though one investigator made an “arguably similar observation” that Burke may have hit JonBenét out of anger. According to the Friday ruling from Judge David Groner, however, the defendants failed to show that this complaint lacks grounding. From the ruling obtained by Law&Crime:

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This Court finds that the statements at issue and the docu-series as a whole could reasonably be understood as stating actual facts about Plaintiff. This Court does not find that the “disclaimer” at the beginning and at the end of the program negate the docu-series potentially defamatory meaning.

Ramsey’s attorney L. Lin Wood applauded the decision, and said the court correctly reviewed the defense’s argument that they were just conveying an opinion.

“This ruling paves the way for Burke Ramsey to expose that the CBS ‘docu-series’ was a fraud on the viewing public,” he wrote in an email statement to Law&Crime. “The ruling was well-written and correctly analyzed First Amendment law on the defense of opinion. This ruling was a huge win for Burke.”

Experts on the show, including former FBI Agent Jim Clemente and investigator James A. Kolar, are co-defendants. When Law&Crime reached out for comment, CBS said Friday’s ruling was no big deal.

“This very preliminary procedural ruling was issued prior to any evidence being presented. It is based solely on the plaintiff’s complaint,” said an emailed statement. “Should the case move forward, we look forward to defending it on its merits.”

Ramsey filed suit December 2016 in the 3rd Judicial Circuit of Michigan over the CBS special The Case of: JonBenet Ramsey.

“CBS perpetrated a fraud upon the public—instead of being a documentary based on a new investigation by a so-called team of experts, The Case of: JonBenét Ramsey was a fictional crime show based primarily on a preconceived storyline scripted in a self-published and commercially unsuccessful book, Foreign Faction, written by Defendant James Kolar (“Kolar”) and published in 2012,” said the complaint.

JonBenet’s 1996 murder remains unsolved.

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« Reply #126 on: January 09, 2018, 05:58:15 PM »

More information, as it rolls and trolls down to the ground then back around.

JonBenét Family Lawyer Says Lawsuit Rulings "Pave the Way for Justice"


Michael Roberts | January 9, 2018 | Westword - - In October 2016, Burke Ramsey, older brother of JonBenét Ramsey, who was murdered in Boulder on Christmas Day of 1996, filed a $150 million lawsuit against Dr. Werner Spitz, a Michigan-based forensic pathologist who theorized on the CBS program The Case of: JonBenét Ramsey that Burke had killed JonBenét with a blow to the head. A separate $750 million lawsuit against CBS followed, and while Spitz and the network asked that the cases be tossed, Michigan Judge David Groner has now allowed each to move forward in what Ramsey family attorney Lin Wood sees as a much larger victory than representatives for CBS are willing to acknowledge.

"CBS’ public relations efforts to downplay the significance of the ruling are borderline laughable," maintains Wood, corresponding via email.

"The heart and soul of the defense strategy was clearly aimed at having these cases thrown out based on a finding that the comments were protected opinion," Wood adds. "If successful, that strategy would have prevented Burke from conducting discovery. Now the case will focus on the facts. The same facts and truth that exonerated Burke twenty years ago will exonerate him in this case. The facts surrounding the history, development and production of this fraudulent 'documentary-series' will be a stinging indictment of CBS."

In addition, Wood feels that Groner's finding is good news in regard to the future of yet another lawsuit against CBS, this one a $350 million demand filed by Burke's father, John Ramsey, in October 2017.

"There is a pending motion to dismiss in John’s case against CBS based essentially on the same grounds as the motions filed in Burke’s cases," Wood points out. "So the rulings by Judge Groner are predictive that the motion in John’s case will also be denied."

Beyond CBS, the defendants named in the John Ramsey suit are Critical Content, the company that produced the docuseries, as well as Spitz, Jim Clemente, Laura Richards, Stanley Burke, James Fitzgerald, Henry Lee and James Kolar, who served as so-called investigators on the program. Kolar also wrote Foreign Faction, a book about the JonBenét slaying that the suit portrays as the blueprint for the show.

"CBS perpetrated a fraud upon the public," a passage from the complaint reads. "Instead of being a documentary based on a new and legitimate investigation by a team of qualified and unbiased experts, The Case of: JonBenét Ramsey was a fictional crime show based primarily on a preconceived storyline scripted in the self-published and commercially unsuccessful book Foreign Faction, written by Defendant James Kolar and self-published in 2012."

Another section maintains that "Defendants’ accusation that John covered-up that Burke killed JonBenét was not based on a complete investigation revealing truthful facts, new witnesses, new evidence or new theories. Instead, Defendants consciously built their Documentary on an illegitimate and unfounded investigation, false and omitted facts, old witnesses, old evidence and old theories."

Similar claims appear in the Burke Ramsey lawsuits, and Wood isn't surprised that they survived double-headed dismissal motions.

"I have always believed that Burke has a very strong case against CBS and Spitz," he allows. "I am confident that with each deposition taken, his case will only grow stronger. What went on behind the scenes of this 'docu-series' will be fascinating to learn and damning of CBS when exposed to the public. This was a reckless grab by CBS for money and ratings at the expense of the reputation of an innocent young man."

Groner's opinion increases the odds that CBS and Spitz will settle with Burke (and John) rather than take part in a trial that would presumably reveal the behind-the-scenes sausage-making involved in The Case of: JonBenét Ramsey and offer further insight into a tragic mystery that's remained fascinating to a significant portion of the public for more than two decades.

Wood, for his part, sees the latest development as "a flashing warning signal to other members of the media who seek to profit by relying on 'opinions' of guilt to create sensational story lines in unsolved cases of public interest."

In his view, "It is not the role of the media to determine guilt or innocence. It is the role of the media to discover and convey facts to the public. CBS knowingly crossed the line with Burke and it will ultimately pay a very heavy price for doing so. The rulings pave the way for justice for Burke and John and for accountability on the part of CBS for its intentional wrongdoing."
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« Reply #127 on: January 09, 2018, 06:43:23 PM »

More information, as it rolls and trolls down to the ground then back around.

JonBenét Family Lawyer Says Lawsuit Rulings "Pave the Way for Justice"


Michael Roberts | January 9, 2018 | Westword - - In October 2016, Burke Ramsey, older brother of JonBenét Ramsey, who was murdered in Boulder on Christmas Day of 1996, filed a $150 million lawsuit against Dr. Werner Spitz, a Michigan-based forensic pathologist who theorized on the CBS program The Case of: JonBenét Ramsey that Burke had killed JonBenét with a blow to the head. A separate $750 million lawsuit against CBS followed, and while Spitz and the network asked that the cases be tossed, Michigan Judge David Groner has now allowed each to move forward in what Ramsey family attorney Lin Wood sees as a much larger victory than representatives for CBS are willing to acknowledge.

"CBS’ public relations efforts to downplay the significance of the ruling are borderline laughable," maintains Wood, corresponding via email.

"The heart and soul of the defense strategy was clearly aimed at having these cases thrown out based on a finding that the comments were protected opinion," Wood adds. "If successful, that strategy would have prevented Burke from conducting discovery. Now the case will focus on the facts. The same facts and truth that exonerated Burke twenty years ago will exonerate him in this case. The facts surrounding the history, development and production of this fraudulent 'documentary-series' will be a stinging indictment of CBS."

In addition, Wood feels that Groner's finding is good news in regard to the future of yet another lawsuit against CBS, this one a $350 million demand filed by Burke's father, John Ramsey, in October 2017.

"There is a pending motion to dismiss in John’s case against CBS based essentially on the same grounds as the motions filed in Burke’s cases," Wood points out. "So the rulings by Judge Groner are predictive that the motion in John’s case will also be denied."

Beyond CBS, the defendants named in the John Ramsey suit are Critical Content, the company that produced the docuseries, as well as Spitz, Jim Clemente, Laura Richards, Stanley Burke, James Fitzgerald, Henry Lee and James Kolar, who served as so-called investigators on the program. Kolar also wrote Foreign Faction, a book about the JonBenét slaying that the suit portrays as the blueprint for the show.

"CBS perpetrated a fraud upon the public," a passage from the complaint reads. "Instead of being a documentary based on a new and legitimate investigation by a team of qualified and unbiased experts, The Case of: JonBenét Ramsey was a fictional crime show based primarily on a preconceived storyline scripted in the self-published and commercially unsuccessful book Foreign Faction, written by Defendant James Kolar and self-published in 2012."

Another section maintains that "Defendants’ accusation that John covered-up that Burke killed JonBenét was not based on a complete investigation revealing truthful facts, new witnesses, new evidence or new theories. Instead, Defendants consciously built their Documentary on an illegitimate and unfounded investigation, false and omitted facts, old witnesses, old evidence and old theories."

Similar claims appear in the Burke Ramsey lawsuits, and Wood isn't surprised that they survived double-headed dismissal motions.

"I have always believed that Burke has a very strong case against CBS and Spitz," he allows. "I am confident that with each deposition taken, his case will only grow stronger. What went on behind the scenes of this 'docu-series' will be fascinating to learn and damning of CBS when exposed to the public. This was a reckless grab by CBS for money and ratings at the expense of the reputation of an innocent young man."

Groner's opinion increases the odds that CBS and Spitz will settle with Burke (and John) rather than take part in a trial that would presumably reveal the behind-the-scenes sausage-making involved in The Case of: JonBenét Ramsey and offer further insight into a tragic mystery that's remained fascinating to a significant portion of the public for more than two decades.

Wood, for his part, sees the latest development as "a flashing warning signal to other members of the media who seek to profit by relying on 'opinions' of guilt to create sensational story lines in unsolved cases of public interest."

In his view, "It is not the role of the media to determine guilt or innocence. It is the role of the media to discover and convey facts to the public. CBS knowingly crossed the line with Burke and it will ultimately pay a very heavy price for doing so. The rulings pave the way for justice for Burke and John and for accountability on the part of CBS for its intentional wrongdoing."

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« Reply #128 on: January 09, 2018, 10:19:56 PM »

Careful what you wish for. 

The guy who enters those for Westword is someone L Wood is willing to personally communicate with at any time, so the guy doesn't want to lose that valuable contact by making him angry.  That's why he writes them one-sided.  Considering the pattern, even, he may have an arrangement.

But we'll see how good the CBS Schmoe-Patrol can roll, since they claim to be prepared to defend and not run.  They'll need to invest a few bucks to do it, if so, considering the alternative.  No problem for them to spend as much money as necessary, if they really mean what they say.
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« Reply #129 on: February 07, 2018, 08:39:13 PM »

Uhh, um, ooh, wow!  Let's see.... No.  Not unless some wildly important info exists in obscurity, which could only point to a coverup.  At the very least, covering against a level of incompetency not seen since the Three Stooges did that wiring job at the snobby rich lady's mansion. 

Plenty of WTF moments in this case, though, which may never be answered.  Looks like a coverup already, as is, to protect (at least) John Ramsey.  So anything goes.



Break In The Case? Potential New JonBenét Suspect Stonewalls Cops Over Her Murder!

A stunning array of new evidence has led investigators to a fresh suspect in the killing of JonBenét Ramsey — and in a bombshell world exclusive interview the man’s ex-wife told RadarOnline.com she cannot account for his whereabouts on the night the 6-year-old beauty queen was murdered!

Speaking for the first time, Heather Kubes told Radar she can’t give Keith Schwinaman “a 100 percent alibi” for the fateful night of Dec. 25 and the wee hours of Dec. 26.

“It wasn’t unusual for him to disappear for a few hours and have no explanation for it,” she revealed. “I have no idea what he was capable of. I think anything is possible.”

What’s more, the stunning development comes as a top law enforcement official who worked on the case demanded Schwinaman face fresh DNA tests.

“If you look at JonBenét’s murder and Schwinaman’s crimes for just the methods of operation, a lot of similarities fit,” said retired Boulder, Colo., police detective Bob Whitson. “But what we didn’t have was any physical evidence against him.”

However, Radar has uncovered in a shocking twist how Schwinaman will never be forced to submit evidence because of a plea deal he struck involving three sex crimes with eerie similarities to Ramsey’s murder.

Ramsey was found murdered on the morning of Dec. 26, 1996, in the basement of her Boulder home.

Her father, John, discovered her lifeless body. She had been strangled with a handmade garrote fashioned from a nylon rope and a paintbrush handle. Her head was bashed in and she may have been sexually assaulted. The only real clues were a rambling ransom note and a broken basement window.

There was no sign of a break-in, leading investigators to believe the killer or killers knew the layout of the Ramseys’ home.

No one has ever been charged with the crime.

But just a year before Ramsey grisly murder, Schwinaman pleaded guilty to one count of sexual assault on a child, and was hit with a four-year deferred sentence.

Kubes added yet another explosive detail that could identify her ex as JonBenét’s killer.

During their marriage, Kubes said Schwinaman often wore a cross necklace of hers. But sometime between 1996 and 1998, the necklace disappeared — and when Ramsey’s body was found, she was wearing a similar gold cross around her neck.

In a 2003 plea deal, Schwinaman agreed to serve a 32-year prison sentence for sex acts he committed against three women between 1993 and 1996.

He remains incarcerated at the Crowley County Correctional Facility in Colorado.

Tellingly, his M.O. in all three assaults had uncanny similarities to Ramsey’s murder.

He tied up two of his victims with nylon rope and taped his other victim’s hands behind her back. In one case, Schwinaman broke through a window before attacking his victim.

Authorities tested Schwinaman’s DNA while investigating another case, but it did not match the DNA found on Ramsey.

But Whitson pointed out Schwinaman, now 52, “always wore gloves” while committing his crimes.

Despite the evidence pointing to Schwinaman as Ramsey’s killer, it’s unlikely he’ll ever be charged with her murder — because of the 2003 plea deal.

“He was told that no homicides would be included in the deal, but if he didn’t confess to everything and they found out about it later, he could be charged,” Whitson told Radar.

But in an outrageous twist, Schwinaman’s lawyer later struck an oral agreement with a deputy district attorney that promised authorities would not “pursue other cases” against the pervert, said Whitson.

Despite that, Whitson said Schwinaman’s DNA should be tested once more against the DNA found on Ramsey because it’s been found that DNA “could come from various sources.”

Authorities do plan to retest DNA in the case, a source confirmed.

But Whitson pointed out, “Without at least one piece of physical evidence linking Schwinaman to her murder, the bottom line is we still don’t know.”

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« Reply #130 on: February 08, 2018, 08:35:56 PM »

Will spare us from the insult of nonsense, but the past week has seen multiple "reports" to "inform" us that So-and-So "may be responsible" (your choice -- pick a past suspect now deceased or in prison for murder).  The ex-wife will tell you about it, you see.

Cheap work, IMO, and very tacky.  CBS may look to turn it into a weapon, even, it's just so terribly unbelievable.
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« Reply #131 on: March 05, 2018, 08:56:33 PM »

Another blast from the past.

EX-FRIENDS OF RAMSEYS URGE ACTION

New York Times News Service (Aug 21, 1998) - Three former friends of John and Patsy Ramsey, parents of the slain JonBenet, have asked for a special prosecutor to take over the stalled 20-month-old investigation into the death of the 6-year-old Colorado beauty princess.

The three former friends, all Boulder residents, have broken off ties with the Ramseys, who have moved to Atlanta. In two separate letters, the former friends accused Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter of unwarranted delays and of overly accommodating the Ramseys.Hunter ``has provided evidence to Ramsey defense attorneys at their request' but denied other witnesses' requests for transcripts of their own statements, wrote Fleet and Priscilla White, a couple who had the Ramseys to dinner on Dec. 25, 1996, a few hours before JonBenet was found dead. The Whites also said Hunter has alienated police detectives and key witnesses. In a brief interview, White, an oil and gas entrepreneur, described himself as ``a frustrated witness in a horrible murder case.' He was in the Ramseys' basement when John Ramsey discovered JonBenet's battered body. In their 15-page letter, the Whites alleged that ``Hunter and those advising him have no intention of seeking indictment from a grand jury.'

They added, ``We must be mindful, however, of the first cause of the investigation's failure - the refusal of John and Patsy Ramsey to cooperate fully and genuinely with those officials.'

Emboldened by this letter, Judith Phillips, a photographer who had taken pictures of the Ramsey family, wrote an open letter Thursday calling for a special prosecutor and charging that Hunter was ``willing to obstruct the justice he swore to uphold.'

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« Reply #132 on: March 05, 2018, 09:12:04 PM »

Another another blast from the past.

Man Sues Over JonBenet Murder Claim

Ramsey family friend targets anonymous online accuser in court

(TheSmokingGun - NOVEMBER 9 2006)--A friend of JonBenet Ramsey's father has filed a lawsuit against an anonymous web surfer who has posted online messages claiming that the man killed the six-year-old beauty queen as well as another person. In a lawsuit filed this week in U.S. District Court in Atlanta, Rod Westmoreland, 54, alleges that someone using the handle 'undrtheradar' has authored posts this year on two message boards that claim he murdered JonBenet in December 1996 and killed a pizza delivery man in a bizarre August 2003 bombing incident. Westmoreland, a Merrill Lynch senior vice president who is only identified by his initials in the complaint, is a friend of John Ramsey, JonBenet's father. On the morning the girl was found missing from her room and a kidnap note was discovered in the family's Colorado home, John Ramsey called Westmoreland for help in gathering ransom money. In his complaint, a copy of which you'll find below, Westmoreland contends that he has been maligned by posts on message boards hosted by Topix.net and the Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community. He intends to learn the real identity of 'undrtheradar' via discovery in the case, which was filed by attorney Lin Wood, who has previously represented John Ramsey and his late wife Patsy in several libel actions.

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« Reply #133 on: March 05, 2018, 09:47:08 PM »

Cheesy Here's part of a post from someone who is almost certainly the person in question, as s/he claims:

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John Ramsey tells the police that he thinks of Rod Westmoreland when he reads the ransom note.

I also think of Rod Westmoreland when I read the ransom note and he attempted to sue me for my thoughts.

In Rod Westmoreland's lawsuit against me he claims.........

"Plaintiff has suffered public hatred, comtempt and ridicule"

"As a direct and proximate result of the false accusations maliciously published by the Defendant, Plaintiff has suffered special damages in that he has suffered permanent impairment to his abilities to obtain or maintain gainful employment".

But when you do a simple google search of Rod Westmoreland''s name you find this.........

2010 Top Advisor Rankings: Georgia

Ranked #1: Rod Westmoreland, Merrill Lynch

Rod Westmoreland goes on to state this in his lawsuit......

"Plaintiff did not write the ransom note"

"Plaintiff did not murder Jonbenet Ramsey"

Then oddly he says this..........

"Plaintiff has filed a motion to proceed anonymously"

So in other words, Rod Westmoreland wants to sue me to prove to the world that he "did not write the ransom note" and that he "did not kill Jonbenet", but he has just one simple request, that the world not know who he is! It took an investigation from the media to reveal that Rod Westmoreland was the Plaintiff.

He also states this in his lawsuit..........

"Plaintiff is not a public figure for purposes of this action"

And is contradicted by the fact that he is named by John Ramsey as a possible author of the ransom note and by all of the other facts in this case. He is not only a "public figure", he is one of the "main figures".

Finally, Rod Westmoreland goes on to say this in his lawsuit against me.........

"At the time of their posting, Defendant knew that the false accusations about Plaintiff were unverified and unsubstantiated"

It is a fact that almost 14 years after the murder of Jonbenet Ramsey, Rod Westmoreland the person who was in the middle of everything, still to this day has never spoken publicly about this case and the role that he played in it. He has never publicly told his side of the story except for his denials through his lawyers in his lawsuit. With that said, how can Rod Westmoreland say that the "Defendant knew that the false accusations about Plaintiff were unverified and unsubstantiated"? No one will ever know if these accusations are false until Mr. Rod Westmoreland finally speaks. It's way past due!

I have done my civic duty to get him to speak it is time for others to take it upon themselves to try to get him to speak. Who will be the first to do it?

The moral of this story is you have a guy in Rod Westmoreland that was in the middle of everything before, during and after the crime who wants to remain silent, who does not want to be considered a "public figure", who wants to remain anonymous, and if you accuse him of committing this crime, he will sue you, atleast for 30 days and anonymously of course because he knows he really doesn't want to sue.

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« Reply #134 on: March 06, 2018, 08:32:05 AM »

This is generally a foregone conclusion of where the guilt lies.  Just like in OJ's case.   Nearly everyone believes they know who the killer(s) are, but despite all the time and evidence (or lack of), there has been no arrest or solving this case.
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« Reply #135 on: March 07, 2018, 07:10:37 PM »

Despite "something" very strange in the background of this story, which I've become convinced exists as an obstructive force: the one "how" that remains unmatched says that Burke caused the head injury.

The rest follows very naturally, minus the sheer horror of having to realize it.  The certain "something" is closely related to that (in more ways than one) imo.

But the offset nature of the crimes (with Burke injuring her, effectively ending her, but not killing her) goes to what LNM says.  Plus the shameless wealth-worship by Boulder PD, combined with something possibly even more sinister at the DA's exclusive coffee klatsch, and here we are.  This is what we're left with.

Among the endless avenues of wrong, let's hope CBS is quietly figuring out Mary Lacy's inner-workings.  Find out what makes Mary-Mary do her crazy stuff, such as to create a written "exoneration" on a case that's a million miles from closed -- with the subjects of her letter being, still, the only connection to anything.  Looks as though she was racing against time, knowing the DNA would someday be worthless toward a theory already desperate for life.

Love to see who's batting for Ramsey, because this shit's off the hook.
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« Reply #136 on: March 08, 2018, 09:49:47 PM »



Stan Garnett, Boulder County DA who once talked about "telling the world" the identity of the guilty in "open court", is leaving the position after receiving a "too good to pass up" offer from his former workplace.  (Hope it's not an offer he can't refuse, as they say.)

But Garnett, the guy who once said that, now says "Ta Ta, Suckers!" as he protects his butt from being hit by the door.  

BTW, he now says the JBR case likely won't be resolved -- ever.
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« Reply #137 on: March 08, 2018, 09:53:49 PM »

AFAIK Hunter backed Lacy and Lacy backed this guy.  So no need for a shock.  We should have figured he'd bitch out.
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« Reply #138 on: March 26, 2018, 04:04:40 PM »

For someone who complains about fake news, as L. Lin Wood does so regularly, he holds interest in plenty of it.  Only when his money's at stake, though.  Otherwise, believe him, he's just as angry about it as the rest of us.  Why, he'll open fire on a TV before ever considering to change the channel.  That's how angry. 

At the moment, however, we have "new evidence" (a few words by an ex-wife, possibly drunk at the time) which "suggests" (the ex-wife's words led someone into suggesting something) there may have been TWO individuals involved in the crime.  Now you can be doubly doubtful that anyone but an intruder killed JonBenet.  You can view it as John Ramsey being twice as innocent, even.

But if you're into something else, then maybe you ought to know the individual who killed in the Black Dahlia case from the 1940s (his first murder, at the age of 13) was also responsible for JonBenet's death 50 years later.  A couple of guys who "studied" the matter will tell you it's true.

See?  All better.  Lots of intruders out there.  Everything pointing to John Ramsey as being involved, shall be treated as complete and utter ridiculousness.  Don't you forget it.
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« Reply #139 on: March 26, 2018, 04:20:05 PM »

^ Not to mention other "sudden and urgent" stories using phrases such as "BOMBSHELL NEW EVIDENCE!" in every other sentence, including one carrying a headline on Google News saying "Suspect's Body to be Exhumed!" -- when no such thing is true.  In that one, an unnamed "investigator" (meaning anyone who looks at even one word about it) said he thought it should be done, given the more recent DNA information.  But the deceased person was a possible suspect at one time, who'd already given DNA.  And the information mentioned by the investigator as being cause to exhume, only refers to passing DNA which could've come from anyone, anywhere, and totally unrelated to guilt.

But the headline remains very noticeable and prominent, so I suppose that's how the ballgame is to be played.
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« Reply #140 on: March 26, 2018, 05:43:03 PM »

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« Reply #141 on: March 27, 2018, 11:24:25 AM »

Link?  What are you talking about?

Right here:

Will spare us from the insult of nonsense, but the past week has seen multiple "reports" to "inform" us that So-and-So "may be responsible" (your choice -- pick a past suspect now deceased or in prison for murder).  The ex-wife will tell you about it, you see.

Cheap work, IMO, and very tacky.  CBS may look to turn it into a weapon, even, it's just so terribly unbelievable.

Looking through information on JBR, and it's what a person will find.  It (as a "BOMBSHELL!" report) amounts to locating an ex-wife of someone who was once a possible suspect, then getting her to express anger in a way to reveal her "suspicion" about him: which, in reality, is that she thinks he's a jerk who deserves to have every crime in history pinned on him.

It's without substance and irresponsible to report.  Someone with interest in John Ramsey is behind it, and it amounts to nothing more than buying print to sway opinion.
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« Reply #142 on: March 27, 2018, 12:29:47 PM »

Right here:

Looking through information on JBR, and it's what a person will find.  It (as a "BOMBSHELL!" report) amounts to locating an ex-wife of someone who was once a possible suspect, then getting her to express anger in a way to reveal her "suspicion" about him: which, in reality, is that she thinks he's a jerk who deserves to have every crime in history pinned on him.

It's without substance and irresponsible to report.  Someone with interest in John Ramsey is behind it, and it amounts to nothing more than buying print to sway opinion.

Is this something Ramsey or his lawyer put out there or just something from a tabloid?
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« Reply #143 on: March 27, 2018, 12:46:41 PM »

Is this something Ramsey or his lawyer put out there or just something from a tabloid?

I believe it's sort of a one-for-all type thing, with (of course) John Ramsey being the stake in it and then Burke by extension, with Wood serving as the alpha of the group.  Something very strong has run interference throughout the whole time, though, and I'd sure love to know what that is.  And why.

But the right money can buy "news" stories, for sure, and with Google operating as it does the information will spread at their discretion.  They decide what'll be pounded into our brain and what'll be kept from our reach.
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« Reply #144 on: March 27, 2018, 01:18:35 PM »

Werner Spitz may have been too daring with what he said, imo, by including the words "it's the boy who did it" in his statements.  A little surprising, being that Spitz is actually in his nineties and has been around the block a few times (still busy as a bee to this day).  And even though he was doing a radio interview and probably didn't have anyone there to check him, it seems (just maybe) he'd know better than to be quite so blunt.  That he'd know how to say what he wants without giving anyone a free shot at him.

The TV special is another story, of course, because neither the production company nor CBS want to allow something willy-nilly to be pinned on them, and they involve certain individuals to try to make sure that doesn't happen.  There, the statement about Burke possibly hitting JB out of anger, might be the weak link.
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« Reply #145 on: March 27, 2018, 01:33:33 PM »

I haven't watched that CBS special, still, even though the link is posted in this thread.  But TMK Spitz didn't use or repeat those words in that show, and it could be that he was checked.  The CC and CBS people weren't unaware of the fact that Wood lurked in the background, looking for a kill, and that he'd go for their throats at the slightest chance.  By allowing, say, Spitz to use words which attract trouble, then keeping it in after the final cut, to me would say they're planning an ambush.

In any case, they'd better fight and not bitch out.  Put John Ramsey in his place for a change.
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« Reply #146 on: April 10, 2018, 11:38:21 AM »

A "handwriting expert" has been found to say that a past suspect (now deceased, and not inconveniently so) is/was a match for writing the note.  Maybe this is the big turning point, finally.
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« Reply #147 on: April 10, 2018, 12:33:47 PM »

A "handwriting expert" has been found to say that a past suspect (now deceased, and not inconveniently so) is/was a match for writing the note.  Maybe this is the big turning point, finally.

That isn't new. 
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« Reply #148 on: April 10, 2018, 07:15:44 PM »

That isn't new. 

Someone had better tell Google news feed, then.  It's listed as being from a few days ago.

If the one you're thinking about involves Glenn Meyer, then this is an "updated" version of it.  The "investigators" who wanted his body exhumed, though, are now being called "fans" (lol).   The "new evidence" is that someone says his handwriting could match the note.

Another headline is born.
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« Reply #149 on: April 10, 2018, 07:59:41 PM »

Someone had better tell Google news feed, then.  It's listed as being from a few days ago.

If the one you're thinking about involves Glenn Meyer, then this is an "updated" version of it.  The "investigators" who wanted his body exhumed, though, are now being called "fans" (lol).   The "new evidence" is that someone says his handwriting could match the note.

Another headline is born.

Ok.  Your post was too cryptic.  I thought you were talking about the hand writing expert who said Patsy Ramsey (now deceased) was the author of the ransom note. 
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