OBAMA TO SEEK 80% REDUCTION IN US NUCLEAR WEAPONS - TIMES UK

[Hedgehog]

I re-read the book the Art of War recently and know that what Obama is doing is not only projecting weakness, but is leading us to even worse disaster than GWB.

 

I don't get where you're going with things.

One minute you support cutting spending and oppose the bailout.


The next minute you don't want to cut spending in the military?

Didn't it occur to you somehow that if the budget is going to be fixed long term, spending has to be drastically cut EVERYWHERE?

[Soul Crusher]

I don't get where you're going with things.

One minute you support cutting spending and oppose the bailout.


The next minute you don't want to cut spending in the military?

Didn't it occur to you somehow that if the budget is going to be fixed long term, spending has to be drastically cut EVERYWHERE?

The government is supposed to have one main function - provide for the common defense of the nation. 

Everything else is nonsense.

I am for cutting wasteful entitlement payoffs to special interest groups that are not provided for in the constitution.

The military is a constitutionally provided for use of taxpayer money.

Planned parenthood, Condoms, NEA, are not.

[Hedgehog]

The government is supposed to have one main function - provide for the common defense of the nation. 

Everything else is nonsense.

I am for cutting wasteful entitlement payoffs to special interest groups that are not provided for in the constitution.

The military is a constitutionally provided for use of taxpayer money.

Planned parenthood, Condoms, NEA, are not.

If you believe that, I think you need to re-read the Constitution, bro.

It clearly states, even in the pre-amble "We the People...promote the general Welfare... this Constitution"


BTW, this is not my opinion, I'm just getting it straight outta the Constitution.

You know that I would like to see the constitution frequently changed, something I think you blasted me for.

[Soul Crusher]

If you believe that, I think you need to re-read the Constitution, bro.

It clearly states, even in the pre-amble "We the People...promote the general Welfare... this Constitution"


BTW, this is not my opinion, I'm just getting it straight outta the Constitution.

You know that I would like to see the constitution frequently changed, something I think you blasted me for.

General welfare was never meant to include the socialism, feudulism, and collectivism that the founders fled from in Europe

[Hedgehog]

General welfare was never meant to include the socialism, feudulism, and collectivism that the founders fled from in Europe

Says who?
Btw, you really need to check out the Constitution sometime.
It was written in 1776 - some 60 years before socialism even was starting to become a theory in the mind of Karl Marx.

So I kind of doubt that the founding fathers fled something that didn't even exist.

[jimijimi]

I think more of you should listen to Bill O'rielly and his book has been on the N.Y Times top
seller list for 16 weeks. (FOX NEWS)
CNBC has the two biggest non funny assholes on the air, Keith Olberman and that dike looking
one Maddow or something like that and there still talking about the same thing every night
as they did 6 months ago. I'd like to slap both of them.
Bottom line you can't call obama a leader he's a follower, in his 2 weeks of office he's proved that.
Just watch the news or listen to anyone with intelligence who knows his plan will not work and never will.
Screw the Democrates they been in the closet to long and now they want to spend money
on projects that won't help the economy, so i don't want to hear your bullshit maybe you
should watch TV and learn what's going on. Sorry most of you who voted for him don't.

                              Remember the Savage Nation will get you.

[Hedgehog]

General welfare was never meant to include the socialism, feudulism, and collectivism that the founders fled from in Europe

Collectivism and Socialism were invented in the mid-19th century.

Feodalism is a totally different type of political theory.

Karl Marx and Bakunin were highly critical of feodalist societies.

[Soul Crusher]

Collectivism and Socialism were invented in the mid-19th century.

Feodalism is a totally different type of political theory.

Karl Marx and Bakunin were highly critical of feodalist societies.

But their flawed ideas resulted in the same garbage.

[Hedgehog]

But their flawed ideas resulted in the same garbage.

Do you think it is written in the Constitution that the Government should have only one main function or is that a conclusion you landed at yourself, sport?

[Soul Crusher]

Do you think it is written in the Constitution that the Government should have only one main function or is that a conclusion you landed at yourself, sport?

no, read a history book fool.  The government was never set up to be a cradle to grave entitlement welfare outfit.

[kcballer]

Do you think it is written in the Constitution that the Government should have only one main function or is that a conclusion you landed at yourself, sport?

such a severe owning going on right now of this 3315844564564 idiot.  He's a typical war hawk repub who thinks that everything a democrat does is wrong and everything a repub does is correct.

[Soul Crusher]

such a severe owning going on right now of this 3315844564564 idiot.  He's a typical war hawk repub who thinks that everything a democrat does is wrong and everything a repub does is correct.

Keep rooting for Pelosi. 

[kcballer]

I'll keep my head in the sand

fixed

[Soul Crusher]

such a severe owning going on right now of this 3315844564564 idiot.  He's a typical war hawk repub who thinks that everything a democrat does is wrong and everything a repub does is correct.

I am a libertarian fool.  GWB was a disaster. 

However, the liberals and Pelosi, and Obama are way worse!

[Hedgehog]

no, read a history book fool.  The government was never set up to be a cradle to grave entitlement welfare outfit.

Where did I write it was supposed "to be a cradle to grave entitlement welfare outfit"?

It was you who claimed that the government had one main function.

The government is supposed to have one main function - provide for the common defense of the nation. 

Everything else is nonsense.

I am for cutting wasteful entitlement payoffs to special interest groups that are not provided for in the constitution.

The military is a constitutionally provided for use of taxpayer money.

Planned parenthood, Condoms, NEA, are not.

I never wrote anything about a cradle.

I just quoted the Constitution, where even in the pre-amble Welfare is mentioned.

We the People...promote the general Welfare... this Constitution


So now I am asking you, how did you get the idea that the Constitution would claim that the Government should have only one main function?


-when it's even pointed out in the pre-amble that there are other functions as well? 


Honest question sport - have you read the US constitution?

[Soul Crusher]

Where did I write it was supposed "to be a cradle to grave entitlement welfare outfit"?

It was you who claimed that the government had one main function.

I never wrote anything about a cradle.

I just quoted the Constitution, where even in the pre-amble Welfare is mentioned.

We the People...promote the general Welfare... this Constitution


So now I am asking you, how did you get the idea that the Constitution would claim that the Government should have only one main function?


-when it's even pointed out in the pre-amble that there are other functions as well? 


Honest question sport - have you read the US constitution?

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."


The obvious overwhelming function of government is to provide for defense, foreign and domestic, and not trample on our rights, not establish a welfare system that provides everything.   

[kcballer]

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."


The obvious overwhelming function of government is to provide for defense, foreign and domestic, and not trample on our rights, not establish a welfare system that provides everything.   

So because it's not listed first it shouldn't be a priority and only those things first stated are??  Or did you only read this part

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense,

[headhuntersix]

It flows better......but not any less important. Uncle Sam does waaaaay to much.

[jimijimi]

Thats all good but just take a listen to Glen Beck he tells it like it is. So before you say something
just watch his show once, that's all i ask. He's for the common man and dosen't play sides like
most of the media.