surely one of, if not the best natural around right nowdiscuss
No way he's natural in that shot, what a crcok of shit, looks good though.
I saw his training video squatting 365 for 4 or something. What a beast.
lol, natural.....good one.
why is getbig's standard of what's natural or not so low. You guys are pathetic somtimes seriously, if you think this is unnatainable you should stop training now because your never going to fucking get anywhere.
Talk about being naive.....have you seen the conditioning this guy comes in with.....he's more ripped than most the guys on the Olympia stage.Just because he isn't 250lbs doesn't mean he's natural.....
he dosen't have one striated muscle in the pictures above.
He is still VERY lean.There is a pic of him comparing tris with another guy.....no natural gets that lean.
you can, and he does.if you diet correctly ( as he does), workout correctly (as he does), use correct nutrient timing ( as he does) its very achievable.and he's not 205 he competes around 175 - although he's looking bigger now
Naturals can get as lean as users imo, but much smaller, and also as dry/dryer because they don't have to worry about drug bloat.
ok.....so show me another natural with striated tris and glutes.....if it's "very achievable" then why do no naturals have his conditioning?And believe it or not, other natural bodybuilders know how to train and diet yet are nowhere near as ripped.....but i guess they just don't train/diet as hard, right?
I agree. From the top naturals i've seen(true naturals), they can get super shredded and it creates an illusion of them looking wayyyyyyyy bigger than what the scale says. Of course they won't be nearly as big as someone on AAS, but they'll most likely be in just as good if not better condition.