Author Topic: Evolution wants to make a monkey out of you (Read 9832 times)

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2009, 01:24:24 AM »

Lol, how old is he, 16?... and he's got it all figured out. Very funny listening to a kid say science is closed minded... Like the faith crowd is wildly open to the possibilities outside their little black book

That's sticking your finger in your ear and going lalalalala...

Nordic Superman · « **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:32:21 AM »

Evolution via natural selection is fact. Forget about monkeys and apes, you might find it more disturbing that your great great ... ancestor was a vole-like critter.

Ganuvanx · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2009, 08:54:38 AM »

Quote from: Nordic Superman on February 06, 2009, 05:32:21 AM

Evolution via natural selection is fact. Forget about monkeys and apes, you might find it more disturbing that your great great ... ancestor was a vole-like critter.

Remember Nordic, evolution is based on life progressively getting more and more complex. Our first relatives were infinitely simpler. Humans have 46 chromosomes. I no longer eat wheat or potatoes since they contain 42 and 48 chromosomes. Hey, I'm no cannibal. They could be our long distant ancestors according to evolution

I can't comprehend how people buy into the fact that we evolved from some lightning and a few elements floating around in water into self aware, intelligent creatures able to distinguish wrong from right placed on a planet filled with scientific laws and constants that make it perfect for sustaining life.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2009, 03:39:26 PM »

Quote from: Ganuvanx on February 06, 2009, 08:54:38 AM

Remember Nordic, evolution is based on life progressively getting more and more complex. Our first relatives were infinitely simpler. Humans have 46 chromosomes. I no longer eat wheat or potatoes since they contain 42 and 48 chromosomes. Hey, I'm no cannibal. They could be our long distant ancestors according to evolution I can't comprehend how people buy into the fact that we evolved from some lightning and a few elements floating around in water into self aware, intelligent creatures able to distinguish wrong from right placed on a planet filled with scientific laws and constants that make it perfect for sustaining life.

are you serious or is this a joke?

Nordic Superman · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2009, 03:06:51 AM »

Quote from: Ganuvanx on February 06, 2009, 08:54:38 AM

Remember Nordic, evolution is based on life progressively getting more and more complex. Our first relatives were infinitely simpler. Humans have 46 chromosomes. I no longer eat wheat or potatoes since they contain 42 and 48 chromosomes. Hey, I'm no cannibal. They could be our long distant ancestors according to evolution I can't comprehend how people buy into the fact that we evolved from some lightning and a few elements floating around in water into self aware, intelligent creatures able to distinguish wrong from right placed on a planet filled with scientific laws and constants that make it perfect for sustaining life.

Organisms don't necessarily get more complex, although generally they do. This is what appears to happen in complex arms races (predator / prey relationships). Even our earliest ancestors were not "infinitely" simpler; you cannot have an infinite number of finite things.

Number of chromosomes doesn't equate linearly to the complexity of an organism for example horses have 32 pairs of chromosomes or 64 in total.

I think the potato branch of the tree of life may have split too early for it to be our ancestor, but it's a fact we do share an ancestor somewhere down the line. Correlating numbers of chromosomes doesn't make each organism equal in complexity.

Hope this information helps you see the light.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2009, 03:31:26 AM »

Quote from: Nordic Superman on February 07, 2009, 03:06:51 AM

Organisms don't necessarily get more complex, although generally they do. This is what appears to happen in complex arms races (predator / prey relationships). Even our earliest ancestors were not "infinitely" simpler; you cannot have an infinite number of finite things.

Number of chromosomes doesn't equate linearly to the complexity of an organism for example horses have 32 pairs of chromosomes or 64 in total.

I think the potato branch of the tree of life may have split too early for it to be our ancestor, but it's a fact we do share an ancestor somewhere down the line. Correlating numbers of chromosomes doesn't make each organism equal in complexity.

Hope this information helps you see the light.

the simplicity of his logic should have told you a reply wouldn't be worth your time.

freespirit · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2009, 03:51:44 AM »

The evolution theory was already known long before Darwin, by some people. Knowledge known by a small number of people, are passed along true the ages.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2009, 04:04:08 AM »

Quote from: freespirit on February 07, 2009, 03:51:44 AM

The evolution theory was already known long before Darwin, by some people. Knowledge known by a small number of people, are passed along true the ages.

please expand. I think you're right but not many mention this.

Nordic Superman · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:14:14 AM »

Theory of evolution?

Evolution isn't a theory. Evolution is a natural process. Natural selection is the theory (of many explaining evolution) that explains the process and biological mechanisms behind evolution.

Natural selection was described above and beyond anyone else by C. Darwin.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:27:59 AM »

Quote from: Nordic Superman on February 07, 2009, 05:14:14 AM

Theory of evolution?

Evolution isn't a theory. Evolution is a natural process. Natural selection is the theory (of many explaining evolution) that explains the process and biological mechanisms behind evolution.

Natural selection was described above and beyond anyone else by C. Darwin.

no, I think freespirt was going where nobody goes. We know what you just said.

EwaBeachBoy · « **Reply #11 on:** February 07, 2009, 08:38:39 AM »

I took a crap this morning

For you evolutionist, did I poop out a distant relative?

I guess everything we are eating is a distant relative then? The apples, the chickens, the brocolli, the cows, the bulls, ect

Evolution is making a monkey out of you!

OzmO · « **Reply #12 on:** February 07, 2009, 09:15:08 AM »

God is also making a monkey out of us as our DNA 98% the same.

Physically we are as about as unique as a 2008 BMW is to a 2009 BMW.

EwaBeachBoy · « **Reply #13 on:** February 07, 2009, 09:23:27 AM »

Thats because there are different designs but same "Designer"

Also its been proven that all humans came from one woman.

If evolution is real and we did come from monkeys, why is it that they cant prove that humans and apes came from the same woman?

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #14 on:** February 07, 2009, 09:45:28 AM »

Breakin the Law? Breaking the Law??

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #15 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:05:53 PM »

Quote from: RonPaulFan on February 07, 2009, 09:45:28 AM

Breakin the Law? Breaking the Law??

I have an irresistible urge to bust that kid's nose in the above video.

Breakin the Law? Breaking the Law

liberalismo · « **Reply #16 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:24:46 PM »

Quote from: Ganuvanx on February 06, 2009, 08:54:38 AM

Remember Nordic, evolution is based on life progressively getting more and more complex. Our first relatives were infinitely simpler. Humans have 46 chromosomes. I no longer eat wheat or potatoes since they contain 42 and 48 chromosomes. Hey, I'm no cannibal. They could be our long distant ancestors according to evolution I can't comprehend how people buy into the fact that we evolved from some lightning and a few elements floating around in water into self aware, intelligent creatures able to distinguish wrong from right placed on a planet filled with scientific laws and constants that make it perfect for sustaining life.

Evolution isn't about increased complexity. Not that the number of chromosomes equals complexity.

Even though potatoes, and all life on earth, is related to humans...eating potatoes doesn't make you a cannibal.

liberalismo · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:30:45 PM »

Quote from: EwaBeachBoy on February 07, 2009, 09:23:27 AM

Thats because there are different designs but same "Designer"

Also its been proven that all humans came from one woman.

If evolution is real and we did come from monkeys, why is it that they cant prove that humans and apes came from the same woman?

Bullshit. I was listening on the radio about how there is a type of Caterpillar that can put out scents so that ants think it is an ant queen. The ants take it into their ant bed and feed it and protect it, even feeding their ant young to the Caterpillar. The Caterpillar will live in the ant bed for up to 2 years until it grows out and turns into a butter fly.
The question....Why the fuck would an infinitely powerful God make such a Caterpillar? What's the point of all of this? A larger question would be why a God would make all of the incredibly diversity in life on earth. Why not make thinks much simpler and not so suggestive of evolution?

As far as EVE goes. Scientists have found the CHROMOSOMAL EVE. This means that they went back and found 1 woman living in Africa many thousands of years ago that most humans came from. This doesn't mean that this 1 woman was as far back as there was, it was just as far back as they could go with DNA tracing. Obviously that 1 woman had a mother, and so forth.

EwaBeachBoy · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:35:15 PM »

I dont want Breakin' the law! Breakin' the law! to be my legacy on getbig!

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2009, 06:00:08 PM »

Quote from: EwaBeachBoy on February 07, 2009, 05:35:15 PM

I dont want Breakin' the law! Breakin' the law! to be my legacy on getbig!

to late, good job

freespirit · « **Reply #20 on:** February 08, 2009, 11:48:10 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on February 07, 2009, 04:04:08 AM

please expand. I think you're right but not many mention this.

I've been reading about that in this book called The Secret History of the World, by Jonathan Black.

OzmO · « **Reply #21 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:44:09 PM »

Quote from: EwaBeachBoy on February 07, 2009, 09:23:27 AM

Thats because there are different designs but same "Designer"

Also its been proven that all humans came from one woman.

If evolution is real and we did come from monkeys, why is it that they cant prove that humans and apes came from the same woman?

no it hasn't.

tonymctones · « **Reply #22 on:** February 08, 2009, 03:00:44 PM »

LOL first off evolution doesnt state we came from monkeys it says that we and monkeys have a distant relative we didnt come from monkeys and monkeys didnt come from us. Second it has not been proven that we have come from a single female there is a theory out there that plays this scenario but you overlook the fact that in that scenario the "female" isnt a modern day homo sapien meaning that even it that theory was correct it would still mean we evolved from the species she was into homo sapiens.

tonymctones · « **Reply #23 on:** February 08, 2009, 03:15:47 PM »

P.S. that guy is a raging jack ass, what i think is absolutely hillarious is how ppl who have never studied evolution or heard anything about it other then on the internet via youtube or t.v. or religious friends are so adament it is not true.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #24 on:** February 08, 2009, 05:04:31 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 08, 2009, 03:00:44 PM

LOL first off evolution doesnt state we came from monkeys it says that we and monkeys have a distant relative we didnt come from monkeys and monkeys didnt come from us. Second it has not been proven that we have come from a single female there is a theory out there that plays this scenario but you overlook the fact that in that scenario the "female" isnt a modern day homo sapien meaning that even it that theory was correct it would still mean we evolved from the species she was into homo sapiens.

wow, good post. most miss this simple point or just flat out ignore it. For these guys to show a monkey and say evolution says we came from a monkey isn't correct at all.