Author Topic: Widest/Best rear lat spread at the 98 Olympia (Read 18354 times)

bigbobs · « **Reply #125 on:** February 12, 2009, 01:51:48 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on February 12, 2009, 01:46:23 PM

You shouldn't even speak on this matter. You must be the most biased schmoe to lurk there boards. If Nasser doesn't win it all there's always some pathetic excuses from your sorry ass.
I've NEVER heard you say "Nasser got beat fair and square, he was not the best bodybuilder on that day".

Sure, I don't think he deserved to win every single show he entered, however he did deserve 3 Olympias (at least), the 94 NOC (where he got 2nd and even MuscleTime said that was a ridiculous outcome), and the 96 and 97 Arnold Classic.

lovemonkey · « **Reply #126 on:** February 12, 2009, 01:55:03 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on February 12, 2009, 01:51:48 PM

Sure, I don't think he deserved to win every single show he entered, however he did deserve 3 Olympias (at least), the 94 NOC (where he got 2nd and even MuscleTime said that was a ridiculous outcome), and the 96 and 97 Arnold Classic.

You have got to be kidding me. Aren't you the same person who buys his soiled clothing? You are very biased and living in Fantasy Land. That statement alone proves it.

superthick · « **Reply #127 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:05:20 PM »

yes bigbobs we all know that u r so far u[p nasser's ass u can taste what he just ate, but get over yuo delusionality, nasser was never good enough to win the O and has been bitching about it 2 u ever since...
He couldn't even beat dorina when dorian had severe injuries..
yes Nasser sucks more than ever

bigbobs · « **Reply #128 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:10:14 PM »

6 pages and lots of interesting replies. Some slight variations in opinions but in general the consensus of the replies seems to be that Nasser was simply amazing! Thanks to all who participated.

superthick · « **Reply #129 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:12:30 PM »

hahahah he looks like shit.. someone tell him to stop with the oil

lovemonkey · « **Reply #130 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:15:24 PM »

Quote from: superthick on February 12, 2009, 02:12:30 PM

hahahah he looks like shit.. someone tell him to stop with the oil

Impossible. Like telling cookie monster to avoid cookies.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #131 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:51:15 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on February 12, 2009, 01:42:04 PM

Poor, naive ND - he thinks that none of the above could happen in such a credible and professional agency such as the IFBB.

NO it only happens when Nasser lost but when he won all his contests the IFBB was right on the money lol great logic , they decided race wasn't an issue at the Houston Pro in 1995 , or being a non-American was o.k as long as we were in New York when he won the NOC

Nasser won 6 pro shows yet you cry politics , some cry racism , some cry conspiracy , and yet somehow they overlooked all of that on these occasions lol if contests are fixed then Nasser benefited as well you can't have it both ways .

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #132 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:52:38 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on February 12, 2009, 01:46:23 PM

You shouldn't even speak on this matter. You must be the most biased schmoe to lurk there boards. If Nasser doesn't win it all there's always some pathetic excuses from your sorry ass.
I've NEVER heard you say "Nasser got beat fair and square, he was not the best bodybuilder on that day".

QFT

Team Excuses = Team Nasser

bigbobs · « **Reply #133 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:54:49 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on February 12, 2009, 02:51:15 PM

NO it only happens when Nasser lost but when he won all his contests the IFBB was right on the money lol great logic , they decided race wasn't an issue at the Houston Pro in 1995 , or being a non-American was o.k as long as we were in New York when he won the NOC

Nasser won 6 pro shows yet you cry politics , some cry racism , some cry conspiracy , and yet somehow they overlooked all of that on these occasions lol if contests are fixed then Nasser benefited as well you can't have it both ways .

In some shows Nasser was so far ahead of the competition that even with the negative politics at his disadvantage he still won, however the # of victories and overall placings during his career would have been higher in their absense.

lovemonkey · « **Reply #134 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:57:20 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on February 12, 2009, 02:54:49 PM

In some shows Nasser was so far ahead of the competition that even with the negative politics at his disadvantage he still won, however the # of victories and overall placings during his career would have been higher in their absense.

ROFL?

Excuses and even more excuses.

dr.chimps · « **Reply #135 on:** February 12, 2009, 02:59:08 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on February 12, 2009, 02:51:15 PM

NO it only happens when Nasser lost but when he won all his contests the IFBB was right on the money lol great logic , they decided race wasn't an issue at the Houston Pro in 1995 , or being a non-American was o.k as long as we were in New York when he won the NOC

Nasser won 6 pro shows yet you cry politics , some cry racism , some cry conspiracy , and yet somehow they overlooked all of that on these occasions lol if contests are fixed then Nasser benefited as well you can't have it both ways .

Team Nasser: Yes, you can!

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #136 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:02:14 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on February 12, 2009, 02:54:49 PM

In some shows Nasser was so far ahead of the competition that even with the negative politics at his disadvantage he still won, however the # of victories and overall placings during his career would have been higher in their absense.

Your retort is more excuses lol again either he won fair and lost fair you can't have it both ways , Nasser wasn't an outcast in the bodybuilding community ( not like he is now ) he was well like by fans , writers and the judges stop portraying him as a victim and look at the cold hard reality of the fact , he simply wasn't good enough , you're entitled to your own opinion but you're not entitled to you're own facts and the fact is Nasser was Mr Olympia from the front and Mr Idaho from the back

webcake · « **Reply #137 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:04:39 PM »

For the pic in questioning, imo Ronnie does have the edge in terms of back development, but that being said, back was supposedly Nasser's weakpoint, and he is holding his own against Ronnie. Very Impressive.

Parker · « **Reply #138 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:42:38 PM »

Nasser was freak, but for the most part, he was given his biggest gift the 1999 Arnold Classic. Typically the one that wins the Most Muscular Award (Kevin Levrone) wins the show, but Nasser did. And Nasser was NOT better than Levrone at that show. But then the embassing thing is, Nasser lost to a 224 pound Flex Wheeler at the 1997 Arnold Classic, and Flex even won the Most Muscular Award! A 224 pound Flex Wheeler was more Muscular than a 280 pound Nasser.

The reason why Bigbobs and Sh.S keep the Nasser shit going, is because they know, Nasser is not all that he's cracked up to be. He will never be known to be as great as Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, Ronnie Coleman, Chris Cormier, Kevin Levrone, Dorian Yates. He will be known as someone has competed against them, and at times beaten them. But at his best, he will never come close to them at their best.

bigbobs · « **Reply #139 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:48:05 PM »

Quote from: Parker on February 12, 2009, 03:42:38 PM

Nasser was freak, but for the most part, he was given his biggest gift the 1999 Arnold Classic. Typically the one that wins the Most Muscular Award (Kevin Levrone) wins the show, but Nasser did. And Nasser was NOT better than Levrone at that show. But then the embassing thing is, Nasser lost to a 224 pound Flex Wheeler at the 1997 Arnold Classic, and Flex even won the Most Muscular Award! A 224 pound Flex Wheeler was more Muscular than a 280 pound Nasser.

Yes, the biased judges placed the inferior Wheeler with unusual delts and arms and extremely narrow physique above a near-flawless Nasser.

Quote from: Parker on February 12, 2009, 03:42:38 PM

The reason why Bigbobs and Sh.S keep the Nasser shit going, is because they know, Nasser is not all that he's cracked up to be. He will never be known to be as great as Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, Ronnie Coleman, Chris Cormier, Kevin Levrone, Dorian Yates. He will be known as someone has competed against them, and at times beaten them. But at his best, he will never come close to them at their best.

When Ray, Nasser, Cormier, and Levrone were all at their best Nasser repeatedly beat them - primarily 95 Olympia through to 99 Arnolc Classic - he rarely lost to any of these men - only to Levrone in 95 (since Nasser was still the newcomer to the top ranks) and to Ray in 96. He also beat Wheeler at the Olympia in 95, 96 and 97.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #140 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:51:35 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on February 12, 2009, 03:48:05 PM

Yes, the biased judges placed the inferior Wheeler with unusual delts and arms and extremely narrow physique above a near-flawless Nasser.

When Ray, Nasser, Cormier, and Levrone were all at their best Nasser repeatedly beat them - primarily 95 Olympia through to 99 Arnolc Classic - he rarely lost to any of these men - only to Levrone in 95 (since Nasser was still the newcomer to the top ranks) and to Ray in 96. He also beat Wheeler at the Olympia in 95, 96 and 97.

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Yes, the biased judges placed the inferior Wheeler with unusual delts and arms and extremely narrow physique above a near-flawless Nasser.

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When Ray, Nasser, Cormier, and Levrone were all at their best Nasser repeatedly beat them - primarily 95 Olympia through to 99 Arnolc Classic - he rarely lost to any of these men - only to Levrone in 95 (since Nasser was still the newcomer to the top ranks) and to Ray in 96. He also beat Wheeler at the Olympia in 95, 96 and 97.

he didn't beat these guys it was POLITICS & BIAS

dr.chimps · « **Reply #141 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:54:38 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on February 12, 2009, 03:51:35 PM

default politics excuse

he didn't beat these guys it was POLITICS & BIAS

You're on thin ground here, ND. Are you willing to document such a claim (for 1k pages!) ?

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #142 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:55:58 PM »

Quote from: dr.chimps on February 12, 2009, 03:54:38 PM

You're on thin ground here, ND. Are you willing to document such a claim (for 1k pages!) ?

Why not ? lol

Camel Jockey · « **Reply #143 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:56:58 PM »

BigBobs vs Hulkster vs ND

Who will win the cyber slug fest?

dr.chimps · « **Reply #144 on:** February 12, 2009, 04:01:10 PM »

Quote from: Camel Jockey on February 12, 2009, 03:56:58 PM

BigBobs vs Hulkster vs ND

Who will win the cyber slug fest?

CJ!? We might as well go for some pints and wings and enjoy life, because this shit is like the Middle-East Crisis: it ain't gonna be decided in our lifetime with Jimmies like this in charge.

bigbobs · « **Reply #145 on:** February 12, 2009, 04:08:33 PM »

Quote from: Camel Jockey on February 12, 2009, 03:56:58 PM

BigBobs vs Hulkster vs ND

Who will win the cyber slug fest?

haha, even though I'm on the side of the better bodybuilder, they have me beat in that both have more time on their hands to post about their bodybuilder. I'm not willing to go nearly 2000 pages with anyone over the same topic while they are. I would rather spend some of that time actually hanging out with the bodybuilder or talking to him on the phone or with other friends or the girlfriend, than mindlessly writing about him for hundreds of pages which eventually only 2-3 people even read. I'm sure most can admit that posting about Nasser is more interesting and entertaining than their "Hulkster Truce" debates. If anyone contests to that, why is it then that no one else gets involved in their debates while Nasser discussions draw many interested posters

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #146 on:** February 12, 2009, 04:16:18 PM »

1995 Grand Prix England - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Vince Taylor
2    Kevin Levrone
3    Charles Clairmonte

1995 Grand Prix France - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Vince Taylor
2    Charles Clairmonte

1995 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Kevin Levrone
2    Vince Taylor

1995 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Kevin Levrone
2    Vince Taylor

1995 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Kevin Levrone
2    Vince Taylor

1995 Grand Prix Ukraine - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1 Vince Taylor

1995 Olympia - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Dorian Yates
2    Kevin Levrone

1996 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Dorian Yates
2    Paul Dillett

1996 Olympia - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Dorian Yates
2    Shawn Ray
3    Kevin Levrone
4    Ken Wheeler (Flex)
5    Paul Dillett
6    Ronnie Coleman
7    Chris Cormier
8    Jean Pierre Fux
9    Charles Clairmonte
10    Michael Francois
11    Aaron Baker
12    Roland Cziurlock
13    Mike Matarazzo

1997 Arnold Classic - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ken Wheeler (Flex)

1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Kevin Levrone
2    Chris Cormier

1997 Grand Prix England - IFBB

1    Kevin Levrone
2    Chris Cormier

1997 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Kevin Levrone
2    Chris Cormier
3    Ronnie Coleman

1997 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1 Kevin Levrone

1997 Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1 Kevin Levrone

1997 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ronnie Coleman
2    Kevin Levrone

1997 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1 Kevin Levrone

1997 San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ken Wheeler (Flex)

1998 Arnold Classic - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ken Wheeler (Flex)

1998 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ronnie Coleman
2    Kevin Levrone

1998 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ronnie Coleman
2    Kevin Levrone

1998 Olympia - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ronnie Coleman
2    Ken Wheeler (Flex)

he rarely lost to any of these men

Bobs your quote was he ' rarely lost to any of these men? lol these guys routinely beat Nasser show-in-show-out he was a good bodybuilder but let's not act like he was Dorian Yates and untouchable

dr.chimps · « **Reply #147 on:** February 12, 2009, 04:17:15 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on February 12, 2009, 04:08:33 PM

haha, even though I'm on the side of the better bodybuilder, they have me beat in that both have more time on their hands to post about their bodybuilder. I'm not willing to go nearly 2000 pages with anyone over the same topic while they are. I would rather spend some of that time actually hanging out with the bodybuilder or talking to him on the phone or with other friends or the girlfriend, than mindlessly writing about him for hundreds of pages which eventually only 2-3 people even read. I'm sure most can admit that posting about Nasser is more interesting and entertaining than their "Hulkster Truce" debates. If anyone contests to that, why is it then that no one else gets involved in their debates while Nasser discussions draw many interested posters

Because he's both polemical and a lurker/puppeteer her on GB!? People tend to dislike hypocrisy.

Sharma · « **Reply #148 on:** February 12, 2009, 04:17:28 PM »

Quote from: Camel Jockey on February 12, 2009, 03:56:58 PM

BigBobs vs Hulkster vs ND

Who will win the cyber slug fest?

Bigbobs is more intelligent than both of them combined. However, these guys have no job and will have the same argument over and over with seemingly no stop. Bobs has a great job and full life so he would not bother after maybe 20 pages but these two will go and go . Post the same pictures at each other for many hours. Bigbobs would win on page 8 but they would not realize as they only read what they type

bigbobs · « **Reply #149 on:** February 12, 2009, 04:18:50 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on February 12, 2009, 04:16:18 PM

1995 Grand Prix England - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Vince Taylor
2    Kevin Levrone
3    Charles Clairmonte

1995 Grand Prix France - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Vince Taylor
2    Charles Clairmonte

1995 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Kevin Levrone
2    Vince Taylor

1995 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Kevin Levrone
2    Vince Taylor

1995 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Kevin Levrone
2    Vince Taylor

1995 Grand Prix Ukraine - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1 Vince Taylor

1995 Olympia - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Dorian Yates
2    Kevin Levrone

1996 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Dorian Yates
2    Paul Dillett

1996 Olympia - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Dorian Yates
2    Shawn Ray
3    Kevin Levrone
4    Ken Wheeler (Flex)
5    Paul Dillett
6    Ronnie Coleman
7    Chris Cormier
8    Jean Pierre Fux
9    Charles Clairmonte
10    Michael Francois
11    Aaron Baker
12    Roland Cziurlock
13    Mike Matarazzo

1997 Arnold Classic - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ken Wheeler (Flex)

1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Kevin Levrone
2    Chris Cormier

1997 Grand Prix England - IFBB

1    Kevin Levrone
2    Chris Cormier

1997 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Kevin Levrone
2    Chris Cormier
3    Ronnie Coleman

1997 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1 Kevin Levrone

1997 Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1 Kevin Levrone

1997 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ronnie Coleman
2    Kevin Levrone

1997 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1 Kevin Levrone

1997 San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ken Wheeler (Flex)

1998 Arnold Classic - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ken Wheeler (Flex)

1998 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ronnie Coleman
2    Kevin Levrone

1998 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ronnie Coleman
2    Kevin Levrone

1998 Olympia - IFBB

Nasser lost to

1    Ronnie Coleman
2    Ken Wheeler (Flex)

he rarely lost to any of these men

Bobs your quote was he ' rarely lost to any of these men? lol these guys routinely beat Nasser show-in-show-out he was a good bodybuilder but let's not act like he was Dorian Yates and untouchable

hahaha, brutal meltdown posting numerous Grand Prix shows and naming every competitor at the 96 Olympia. How long did that take you do compile?